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Fox News' Bret Baier: Georgia Ballot Access Challenge Against Obama Gets Hearing
Fox News - BirtherReport ^ | January 6, 2012 | Brett Baier

Posted on 01/06/2012 7:11:27 PM PST by Seizethecarp

Baier: And now some fresh pickings from the political grapevine. A state judge in Georgia has denied a motion by the Obama Administration to dismiss a complaint challenging the president's eligibility to be on the ballot there. Attorney Orly Taitz filed the complaint back in November on behalf of a Georgia resident contending Obama is not a natural born citizen and therefore should not be on the March presidential primary in Georgia. You'll remember last year the White House released the president's long form birth certificate, however Taitz, along with many others in the so-called "birther" movement, is still not satisfied. Some in that movement call it a fake. Others say the real issue is that he's not a natural born citizen. A hearing has now been set for January 26th. The president's lawyer in Atlanta says he's optimistic the judge will decide in the president's favor.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008pelosifraud; 2012; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; dncfraud; eligibility; eligibilitycourt; fox; ga; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; orlytaitz
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An amazing outbread of journalism at Fox News!

Fox appears to be signalling that this is real news and that they will cover the hearing. Baier did not mention the other numerous plantiffs nor their separate hearings that were all granted, but this is progress. Afterall, it isn't "news" if no one covers it!

1 posted on 01/06/2012 7:11:38 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: LucyT

ping to Fox New’s Brett Bair covering the GA eligibility hearing Jan 26!


2 posted on 01/06/2012 7:15:33 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Another case has been filed:

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/01/attorney-gary-kreep-appeals-9th-circuit.html

Eligibility appeal seeks level election playing field

Current standard ‘denies redress’ when unqualified candidate on ballot

Bob Unruh @ WND


3 posted on 01/06/2012 7:19:49 PM PST by Crazy ole coot (Mr. obama should be tried for treason!)
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To: Seizethecarp
Wow, Baier actually mentioned NBC concerns on their main news hour, instead of just mocking
4 posted on 01/06/2012 7:20:15 PM PST by opentalk
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To: afraidfortherepublic

PING


5 posted on 01/06/2012 7:20:23 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Seizethecarp

This is a first for any news program: “Others say the real issue is that he’s not a natural born citizen.”


6 posted on 01/06/2012 7:21:10 PM PST by Crazy ole coot (Mr. obama should be tried for treason!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Actually rather fair and balanced. Baier doesn’t say he thinks the plaintiffs will win, but at least he calls it the “so-called ‘birther’ movement,” and more important, he mentions it in a news program.

Fox News has been as bad as the liberal networks on this issue, so it really is pretty remarkable.


7 posted on 01/06/2012 7:32:34 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Crazy ole coot
Put the FRAUD in prison where he belongs , anyone with just half of a brain knows he is not qualified to hold the office of POTUS , and put all his complicit friends in with him for 100 PLUS YEARS.
8 posted on 01/06/2012 7:35:21 PM PST by Billk
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To: Seizethecarp

I about fell out of the chair when that story came on. I knew better than to hope the panel would cover it. I can just imagine Krauthammer’s take...


9 posted on 01/06/2012 7:36:44 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Cicero

Yes let us hear from Mr Bill O at fox , he and fox have shown no GUTS on this issue from the beginning , and that is disgusting what a joke they have been fair and balanced B.S.


11 posted on 01/06/2012 7:43:08 PM PST by Billk
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To: Crazy ole coot

What about this little item?

http://www.westernjournalism.com/susan-daniels-explains-obamas-social-security-number-reserved-for-connecticut-applicants/


12 posted on 01/06/2012 7:50:00 PM PST by Captain7seas (FIRE JANE LUBCHENCO FROM NOAA)
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To: Captain7seas

Yeah! I know about that. I had to research SSN’s back when I was doing background investigations and each state had their own three digit number as the first digits of the SSN. That was a method of checking the residences of the applicant.


13 posted on 01/06/2012 7:54:12 PM PST by Crazy ole coot (Mr. obama should be tried for treason!)
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To: Billk

Add Hillary,Bill as well..Hillary for insider trading etc, and Bill for violent sexual assault on Anita Broderick


14 posted on 01/06/2012 7:59:28 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: melancholy; null and void; Red Steel

ping...

Timing is everything!


15 posted on 01/06/2012 8:14:02 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Billk

I would prefer having the Constitutional sentence for treason applied.


16 posted on 01/06/2012 8:14:59 PM PST by Crazy ole coot (Mr. obama should be tried for treason!)
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To: Seizethecarp
Et tu, Bret?!
...contending Obama is not a natural born citizen and therefore should not be on the March presidential primary in Georgia. You'll remember last year the White House released the president's long form birth certificate...
You bring it right back around to the non issue of the birth certificate when the issue is natural born citizenship. You're just another example of why I don't watch FOX any more and I consider you to be the best of the lot.

Hey, Bret, all his purported birth certificate did was confirm that his Daddy wasn't even a US Citizen which further proves that he isn't a natural born citizen, one born of citizen parents.

17 posted on 01/06/2012 8:31:46 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Seizethecarp
Timing is everything!
The truth is everything and FOX did this nation a disservice with this report by wording it in the manner it did.
JMO
18 posted on 01/06/2012 8:34:31 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Cicero; Seizethecarp; LucyT

The FAUX people still calls it the “so-called ‘birther’ movement” which it has never been. It’s the Constitution “movement” which the idiots over there took an oath to uphold and defend, which they never done and are enablers to the biggest political scandal in our nations’s history. They should be hold accountable, including Mr. Limbo and other faked conservative media hosts!!!


19 posted on 01/06/2012 9:10:25 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: philman_36
“You'll remember last year the White House released the president's long form birth certificate, however Taitz, along with many others in the so-called “birther” movement, is still not satisfied. Some in that movement call it a fake. Others say the real issue is that he's not a natural born citizen.”

Baier reported this as a journalist should which is to lay out the issues in a nonjudgmental fashion. This is actually a first, in the case of Fox News, IIRC.

Fox has never once previously allowed even a suggestion that Obama’s BC might be a fake! Corsi was mocked on Fox when his BC book came out.

IMO, Baier’s report is a fantastic development. The Democrats could have substituted Hillary if Obama were successfully exposed in 2011, but now it is too late for another candidate to be substituted and win...especially if it takes at least two or three months to unseat Obama after court ordered discovery forces him to resign and take a pardon from President Biden!

20 posted on 01/06/2012 9:14:49 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: danamco
“The FAUX people still calls it the “so-called ‘birther’ movement” which it has never been.”

I regard the prefix “so-called” to be journalistically correct as a nonjudgmental prefix for a term that is in common usage but may be objectionable or controversial to some folks.

21 posted on 01/06/2012 9:20:43 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

ping


22 posted on 01/06/2012 9:29:37 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Seizethecarp

Journalistically correct, hmmmm???

Before stopping tuning in to FAUX, I heard Hannity saying that journalism died in 2008, I agree!!!

http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/is-this-how-obama-win-will-be-guaranteed/


23 posted on 01/06/2012 9:36:33 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: danamco; LucyT

Ping:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk-WbjEUdi4&feature=uploademail


24 posted on 01/06/2012 9:43:45 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: danamco; LucyT

Hawaiian corruption:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2012/01/06/breaking-hawaii-judge-knowingly-schedules-next-hearing-for-date-on-which-atty-orly-taitz-must-be-in-georgia/


25 posted on 01/06/2012 9:55:12 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: Seizethecarp

“You’ll remember last year the White House released the president’s long form birth certificate, however Taitz, along with many others in the so-called “birther” movement, is still not satisfied.”

NO kudos to Baier or Fox if he said this!

It DRIPS with sarcasm and innuendo that “Bath-House” Barry actually released a genuine Birth Certificate-not to mention, the court case has to do with Natural Born Citizenship-NOT the fraudulent birth certificate.


26 posted on 01/06/2012 10:11:26 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Seizethecarp

Wow, we are supposed to be happy with the bread crumbs Fox News knocks to the floor?

A little blurb on the second’s long, gossipy, between-commercials filler, “political grapevine?”

Gee, thanks Fox. /sarcasm

Where were they a four years ago when the Senate was passing resolutions about McCain and ignoring Obama?

They are trillions of stolen taxpayer dollars too late and shredding of The Constitution too little.


27 posted on 01/06/2012 10:43:41 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: danamco

BUMP!


28 posted on 01/06/2012 10:50:52 PM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Seizethecarp; danamco
"I regard the prefix “so-called” to be journalistically correct as a nonjudgmental prefix for a term that is in common usage but may be objectionable or controversial to some folks. "

I agree in this case, but the use of "so called" is frequently used in a derogatory manner.

29 posted on 01/06/2012 11:01:08 PM PST by matthew fuller ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." Winston Churchill)
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To: danamco
“Journalistically correct, hmmmm???”

Tough crowd here tonight!

IMO, Baier properly reported who, what, when, where, why with no spin...which is Journalism 101, IIRC.

Fox can't force HI to release the original BC for forensic examination. Fox has no control over the courts and whether other patriots could overcome the “standing” issue for all plaintiffs up until a plaintiff in GA just now established standing as an elector to contest placement of Obama’s name on the ballot in a new election.

The NBC issue is anyone’s guess until SCOTUS actually rules, despite claims to the contrary.

There are defenses that Barry can resort to if he gets backed into a corner, such as not having a legal father.

Remember that under the 1948 BNA if Barry is proved to have a bastard due to the existing marriage of his biological bigamous father Barry could be explicitly excluded from having dual UK citizenship and would only have the unitary USA citizenship of his single mom (assuming birth in the USA). He would not have two US citizen parents but he would not have any loyalty to another sovereign at birth. Can any FReeper say with confidence how SCOTUS would rule on such facts?

I see this straight news report on Fox's primetime news show as a breakthrough change signalling that Fox will not blockade coverage. This will certainly enrage the White House and I, for one, am celebrating!

30 posted on 01/06/2012 11:21:15 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
The president's lawyer in Atlanta says he's optimistic the judge will decide in the president's favor.


Whats this? The lawyer isn't sure? If he was sure this wouldn't have been an issue.
On exacly what basis will the judge decide? We shall see.

31 posted on 01/07/2012 12:30:28 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: Seizethecarp

THEY GOT IT WRONG!!!!!!!!! ITS ABOUT HIS FATHER NOT BEING AN AMERICAN.NOT ABOUT THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Why cant these ass hats get ONE DAMN THING RIGHT


32 posted on 01/07/2012 3:01:27 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Seizethecarp

Fox has never once previously allowed even a suggestion that Obama’s BC might be a fake!


So true! B O’Reilly pooh-poohed the birthers many times by saying that Obama’s BC had been provided. Lost any little bit of credibility I had for him up to that point! I also lost respect for his researchers. They should be researching the NBC aspects of Obama.

The fact that the person Obama says was his father was a British citizen violates the Constitutional requirement for candidates for POTUS to be NATURAL born citizens.


33 posted on 01/07/2012 4:22:23 AM PST by octex
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To: danamco

Thanks for the link. Outrageous.


34 posted on 01/07/2012 5:10:14 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This “event” will be nothing more than a mere formality and will pave the way for Buckwheat and his merry band of robbers to remain firmly seated in the Whitehouse.

God, how I hope I’m wrong!


35 posted on 01/07/2012 5:22:32 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Seizethecarp
Baier reported this...
Bret read this off of the teleprompter, he didn't "report" anything. The producer (probably) wrote the script. He's only off the 'prompter when there is panel discussion.

Baier reported this as a journalist should which is to lay out the issues in a nonjudgmental fashion.
Then why didn't Bret, or the person who has actually been writing his script, do that from the outset?
Far too late for this ex-viewer. Quit defending them. If they did wrong, they did wrong, plain and simple.

36 posted on 01/07/2012 5:37:10 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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37 posted on 01/07/2012 7:11:43 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Seizethecarp
Wow. This is the first time Fox News has allowed the phrase natural born Citizen to be spoken on air.
38 posted on 01/08/2012 7:29:42 AM PST by Godebert
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To: Godebert; LucyT; rxsid
“Wow. This is the first time Fox News has allowed the phrase natural born Citizen to be spoken on air.”

Right you are, IIRC!!!

Baier even said it TWICE in this short, carefully scripted report where the second mention was entirely redundant.

There was no mocking no use of the term "debunked claims that Obama's BC is fake," no aspersions on Orly or on those who believe Obama's BC was a fake or that he is not NBC.

39 posted on 01/08/2012 8:07:02 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
I can just imagine the tortured back room conversations going on at FOX right now.

The so-called Conservative talking-heads must be freaking out. No doubt O' Reilly will come to obamao's defense on his next show. Or will he even mention it?

40 posted on 01/08/2012 8:16:21 AM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Godebert
Roger Ailes may have calculated that if the Jan 26 hearing goes against Obama, Fox News would have been remiss in not informing viewers that it was going to occur.

Perhaps the Fox legal team looked at the Judges order and determined that a bit of self-protection by Fox News was called for.

Or maybe Fox News has gotten wind of what Arpaio and Perry are going to spring on the public in early February, since The Donald is a regular on Fox, as is Arpaio.

You just have to assume that Arpaio has had off screen conversations with Fox News regarding his impending posse revelations...including agreement not to discuss it on the air until the timing is right.

41 posted on 01/08/2012 8:26:28 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

just wrote to Baier to politely request he represent the issue properly.


42 posted on 01/08/2012 8:28:05 AM PST by Libertarian4Bush (if you voted for obama, I have no respect for you. you're either a loser or a sucker. sorry!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Interesting. The plot thickens. Things are going to get ugly.


43 posted on 01/08/2012 8:29:16 AM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT

Now comes ALABAMA:!!!

http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_31406.php


44 posted on 01/08/2012 9:32:20 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: Seizethecarp; danamco; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; ...
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Fox New’s Brett Bair covering the GA eligibility hearing Jan 26

Thanks Seizethecarp and danamco.

45 posted on 01/08/2012 9:59:31 PM PST by LucyT (NB. ~ Pakistan was NOT on the U.S. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981. ~)
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This is a first for any news program: “Others say the real issue is that he’s not a natural born citizen.”

They need to get this out there.

46 posted on 01/08/2012 10:07:51 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Mortrey

Once again, all kinds of hopes are being raised that *this time* something will happen on the NBC issue. This judge read and clearly interpreted GA law, denied the motion to dismiss, and called for a hearing. That is more than any of the dozens of judges who’ve had eligibility questions put before them has done.

I’m not a lawyer, but will hold off popping the champagne because I don’t think an administrative law judge can interpret what the Framers meant by ‘natural born Citizen.” So far as I know, that is a role reserved to SCOTUS.

This judge can force Obama to produce an original certified copy of his HI birth certificate, and will likely accept that. If so, Obama’s name goes on the GA ballot. I don’t know how such a determination sets up an appeal to SCOTUS.

If, on the other hand, the judge determines that the proffered birth certificate is questionable, or that it is a legitimate birth certificate but clearly shows Obama’s father is “African” and, in that judge’a opinion, that disqualify Obama as NBC, ruling to keep him off the GA ballot, I’m pretty sure Obama can go to SCOTUS. It would certainly force the issue.

Maybe some lawyer can explain the appellate route from a state administrative agency to the SCOTUS if the attempt to keep Obama off the GA ballot fails at that level.


47 posted on 01/08/2012 10:22:21 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: LucyT; All

Atty. Van Irion Discusses Georgia Ballot Challenge and the Constitution

http://www.thepostemail.com/2012/01/07/atty-van-irion-discusses-georgia-ballot-challenge-and-the-constitution/


48 posted on 01/09/2012 6:53:21 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: EDINVA; Mortrey
I’m pretty sure Obama can go to SCOTUS. It would certainly force the issue.

He already went there and took care of this for good by his unreported visit with eight out of nine blackest robed judges at SCOTUS on January 14, 2009, one week before his false inaoculation!

This visit tricled down to all the lower courts, State and municipalities!!

One of those eight has clearly said then: "We are evading this", hmmmm. Orly Taitz presented the facts to some State officials not long ago and they went to the backroom and came back and swept the whole thing under the rug!!!

Now Alabama have also put similar issue up for hearing???

49 posted on 01/09/2012 7:39:29 AM PST by danamco (-)
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To: octex

It’s a rather telling dissonance that the certificate published late last year is supposed to be a direct scan of the paper document in Hawaii,

but they refuse to let anyone see the actual paper document in Hawaii.

If we’ve already seen it, there is no reason to keep the paper under seal.


50 posted on 01/09/2012 7:46:08 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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