Skip to comments.The best .177 cal. (air) pellet gun to buy [Vanity]
Posted on 01/07/2012 8:05:33 AM PST by bjorn14
I live in Norway and as most of you know the handgun laws here are insane but I discovered that .177 cal. pellet guns are exempt from the avalanche of paperwork and most other rules.
With the increasing criminality in Oslo I was thinking of getting one to at least act as a deterent or precieved equalization of the situation. It is better than having nothing.
Prefer CO2 powered. Thanks in advance.
Do the paperwork and get a real gun.
got a gammo, you cock it though, has more power than a .22 rifle out to around 30 yards. with a scope it is deadly accurate.
although for self defense, its probably a joke. you are better off with a baseball bat and a can of mace imho.
Get a shotgun.
I own a Spanish break barrel pellet rifle which is very accurate out to a hundred feet. It mounts a 4X scope.
Move to Texas.
Move to the USA, and buy all the guns you want, and live where you want.
Forget it. All you’ll do is make the person you shoot angry. Buy yourself a large dog and a fireplace poker.
Throwing heavy or pointy objects might be a better option.
Do you want to use it for shooting skeet or trap?
you want an airgun for self defense? Better find one you can attach a bayonet to.
I have a opossum problem, but I live in a subdivision. It is outside the city limits so discharging a firearm is legal, but since possums are nocturnal, most of my possum problems occur at night and I don’t want to upset the neighbors.
So, I got a .177 pellet rifle. 1200 fps with hunting pellets.
I waited for my first possum to arrive and...
..it took 6 shots to kill it. (We have large possums around here!)
Now, I use my Ruger 10/22 to dispatch possums and the neighbors can just deal with the noise, which isn’t much more than the noise from a 1200 fps pellet rifle.
Moral of the story: using a pellet gun against a human predator is pointless. Get a baseball bat if you don’t want to do the paperwork on a firearm.
Second, what are your requirements? Fun plinking? Serious target shooting? Competition? Pest management? What caliber (I got .22 for pest control)? How much energy? What motive force, springer or pre-charged pneumatic (PCP)? The PCPs cost a LOT more to get into, but have some tremendous advantages.
I've got an RWS Model 48 side cocking rifle and a Weiihrauch HW97K under-lever cock. Like both of them a lot.
Go ask your questions on the "Yellow Forum" -- 100% air gun buffs will be happy to give you all the answers you want. That's where I started my research. Search the forum and you'll find lots of people asking the same question - "What rifle should I purchase?"
In addition to PyramydAir, also check out Airguns of Arizona and Air Gun Depot. I've purchased ammunition, accessories, and parts from Pyramyd and have been very happy with their prices and fast service. Be sure to look for their sales.
Lastly, think about buying used guns to start. You can save a lot of money that way. Many serious buffs buy and sell rifles all the time and you get the advantage of them taking the depreciation. High quality rifles really hold their value. I bought both of my rifles on the classified section of the Yellow Forum and was very happy with the service from the sellers.
“Forget it. All youll do is make the person you shoot angry.”
What if you shoot his eye out first?
Carrying a toy to frighten an aggressor is at best foolhardy. Unless the device can serve to disable someone intent on doing you harm, it is nothing more than a pacifier.
If you can’t carry a firearm, perhaps a decent knife, walking stick or gentleman’s cane could better serve. Certainly they don’t carry the potential to frighten as a firearm, but if you take time to develop the skill to use one, your safety won’t be dependent on the slim chance any aggressor can be scared away.
When in a location or situation where the potential for confrontation or danger exists, the most important things is to be aware of your surroundings and any persons or objects that may pose a threat.
And above all, listen to your instincts. When you feel something isn’t quite right, it’s time to leave the area.
Gotta say, I go with the other opinions around here. A pellet gun will never be much more than a bluff or a way of pissing them off. Even a real .22 lr gun is questionable for self defense.
Go with a bat, and whatever chemicals they allow there (pepper spray or mace). A large dog is a good idea as well.
You should be careful up front though and look into the self defense laws in Norway though. It could be that the law looks at “lay back and take it or run” as the only permissible responses. Then the dog is the best bet since it acts as a deterrent.
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Then he will be really, really angry
Crossman model 1099. CO2 powered and 625 fps muzzle velocity. You can buy the basic model that uses the small co2 cylinder good for 25 or so shots or the better model that can use the large co2 cylinder good for many more shots. This is a good protection weapon since you can pepper someone with .177 pellets as fast as you can pull the trigger and 625 fps can kill a small varmit.
airguns for defense? You’d better hope you’re accurate enough to shoot a home invader clean through the eye, because a hit anywhere else would most likely just piss him off.
Get a 16-ton weight.
Must be your browser. Pyramyd Air is the largest seller of air guns in the USA.
Better qualify that statement. Here in Massachusetts, you can't buy a gun with an "assault magazine," eg a weapon that hold more than 13 or 14 rounds (tubular mags exempt). You can't buy handguns unless you are 21+, there is a ten day waiting period (or is it thirty?) for buying a gun, and I would not be suprised if they report you if you buy certain guns in quick succession (but I'm just guessing on that one.)
Welcome to MA,and abandon all hope, ye who enter this place...
There are four air gun calibers today - .177 (4.5mm), .20 (5mm), .22 (5.5mm) and .25 (6.35mm). What’s the limit where you live?
How about a full-auto BB gun? Are they allowed?
If you had a full-auto BB gun for home defense I think that might work! No criminal could take being sprayed with a bunch of BBs.
Them possums be wearing kevlar. Just chuck a rock at a possum. Or, if you gots a big rock, chuck the possum at the rock. Possum be good eatin’. Fry him up with some taters. Use the tail for a toothpick. I use a box of Possum Helper for a real treat. Possum a real tricky citter. Sometime, you go to shoot a possum and you flash a light up in a tree and you ask “Possum? Is that you?” And he answer “Nope. Just a owl”. They can even disgise...disgeyes....change they voice.
I agree with the others that an air rifle is not practical for self defense. There are a few very expensive pre charged pneumatics which are about as powerful as a .357 magnum but like I said, very expensive.
I too have an RWS (Dynamit Nobel) Diana model 48. It shoots a light weight but standard lead pellet around 1200 fps. Most of those which say 1200 fps are really around 900 fps which is still fairly powerful. Even the model 48 tho is not even up to a .22lr. It is also heavy and slow to reload and cock.
The problem with CO2 is that it is limited to power as the CO2 gas will never expand rapidly enough for real power.
The advantage to CO2 is that it can be used for rapid repeaters and even at their power level they just might hurt so much as to make an intruder leave.
So in essence, an air rifle is not a viable choice for self defense, but in a pinch I would use one.
Will he issue a strongly worded statement afterward?
BTW, depending on the laws where you live, it’s possible that an antique gun would be OK for self-defense and not require a great load of paperwork.
An older version of their site is still up:
I visited Oslo 12 years ago and was struck by how well preserved and beautiful the center city was. Most American cities of that size have a lawless, bombed out urban core where the whites have simply left.
Nobody in those American cities gave much thought as to their personal safety either until the race riots of the 1960’s. Sad to see this happen to Oslo.
Seriously, .177 pistol won't kill a cat, what do you think it will do to a criminal?
I recall a thread a while back that referred to something that could be called a “tactical umbrella”umbrellas specically made to act as self-defense weapons. They look and work like an ordinary umbrella but are made out of tough materials. Any place where the average man is often seen with an umbrella and they become invisible.
I noticed that PyramidAir sells a couple of rifles in .45 and .50 caliber with a muzzle velocity of about 700fps. What kind of damage could those do?
Oslo, Norway? There’s no crime there. It’s a socialist paradise. What? The herrring are holding up people now? Get a lefse gun. Norwegian tortillas. Let ‘em dry out and fling them like Odd Job flung his hat in Goldfinger. Deadly up to 30 yards....unless the criminal has butter and sugar. I’m tellin’ ya, if Norway made their criminals eat ludefisk, there’d be no crime in Norway.
I have one and I can make head shots on rabbits out to about 35 yards (haven't had a chance to shoot anything further).
This gun is not a piece of junk, it's a heavy, well crafted rifle with a beautiful walnut stock.
Those who are suggesting some type of edged weapon have a point, that is if they are not illegal too in Norway.
Cold Steel sells a stabbing spear which really would be deadly. Also an Ontario machete would scare the dickens out of me if someone was threatening me with one.
What kind of damage could an .25 caliber air rifle do if the lead you are slinging is doing between 1400 and 1650fps?
PyramidAir has one for $400.
With my Gammo (1200 fps) I’ve dispatched a medium sized raccoon and large ground hog. Later was from less than 10 ft. The beast was fence-fighting with a neighbor’s Alaskan Husky and paying no attention to me. Both with single shots!
Cold Steel katana demo.
22LR can be good for self defense. My 1022 throws a lot of lead and with a 30 round mag it would kill on the first shot, but after getting 20 little slugs into a perp, he might decide to seek softer targets.
But then if reachin in the locker for a rifle, the 12gauge with 00 buck would be the first thing i grabbed.
Stay away from CO2, they just don't have the power. Plus, you are advised to not leave unspent cartridges in the gun as it will destroy the seals.
Since you never mentioned what you were going to do with it, I gave you my thoughts.
If you only want to do some plinking, here's a fun little pistol in CO2, .177, that's actually a semi-automatic