Skip to comments.Wind farms blasted - Greenpeace co-founder
Posted on 01/07/2012 10:41:10 AM PST by Dartman
This will drive the Enviro-weenies nuts! http://www.chathamdailynews.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3425246
From the article: Southwestern Ontario’s flourishing wind energy industry came under fire Wednesday from the co-founder of Greenpeace.
Dr. Patrick Moore told more than 1,000 area farmers the industry destroys more jobs than it creates, and causes energy prices to climb for all users.
“The industry is a destroyer of wealth and negative to the economy,’’ said Moore, speaking at the 19th annual Southwest Agricultural Conference at Ridgetown campus of the University of Guelph.
Moore, who now refers to himself as the “sensible environmentalist,’’ said the solar bubble has burst and thinks the wind bubble is about to burst.
Was driving through West Texas at night during the holidays. Somewhere out there as far as the eye could see a sea of red lights was blinking off and on - felt like we were in the middle of a Star Trek area. Turns out there is a HUGE wind farm area. Very, very scary area. Shocks me how many things are going on in our state that we have no clue about.
You have to read the article to see who said it. Notice that the title doesn’t tell you.
Will wonders never cease.
Wind power is insane. At some point, we might find a way of making it profitable and effective, but we haven't gotten there yet.
Wind farms have destroyed landscapes all over the world and chopped up birds and wildlife by the millions, have produced virtually no electricity, have cost electricity users a fortune, and there is absolutely no progress going forward with them. I'm only surprised that it was Moore who said it.
What it shows you is the failure of having governments get into supporting technology for ideological reasons. Early technology (electricity, etc.) was supported by private entrepreneurs and the pressure of private support made tehcnologies either become effective or drop out. Later, the government could buy into it or extend it.
To me, that's the model. And by that model, wind technology would never have gotten off the ground (ooops, a pun!). But if private parties had been behind it and it was viable, it would have been quite different by now.
Note this is Chatham, ENGLAND.
Wind technology was a huge innovation centuries ago. There is a reason we no longer use steam power in locomotives and construction equipment though it was great in its time.
Government tends to fossilize technology as much as it promotes it.
There is a small wind farm near Mount Wachusett, MA. I fly over it almost every day. The vanes almost never move. It just sits there, motionless, a monument to Massachusetts Liberals feeling good about themselves by using your tax money. Of course, none of the Liberals can actually SEE it, since it is 40 miles away from Boston.
>>Wind power is insane. At some point, we might find a way of making it profitable and effective, but we haven’t gotten there yet.<<
Profitable as compared to what?
Wind power will never be able to compete with oil and gas based energy.
Besides, the latter provides jobs and puts food on the table for many who are now unemployed.
Wind energy makes sense where it’s windy. If you put a wind farm where it’s not windy, just to make you feel good, it’s expensive.
You want scary? Check this out. There’s no way to stop these turbines if the wind is blowing and if they’re in trouble. If they break apart, the blades are propelled through the air at enormous speed. They’re supposed to be placed miles from civilization for that reason.
Wind power will never be effective for a reason that Dr. Patrick Moore pointed out wind is not always reliable.''
To run a modern economy power must be available 99.99% of the time. Industry needs dependable power to be profitable. Industry today runs on very low inventory (just in time supply chains) that means that parts arrive on the day that they are needed and if they are not there production stops. That means if the power goes out at the factory where your parts are made on Monday and they dont make the parts you need your factory shuts down on Tuesday.
A modern economy can not be held hostage to the vagaries of the wind.
Wind power will never be profitable (in a free market) for the same reason. If you sell some product your customer needs on a daily basis he will not be your customer for long if you can only supply that product 9 out of 10 days if he can find a supplier that can provide that product 99 out of a 100 days (especially if it is also cheaper). If your customers leave you for a cheaper more dependable supplier how do you make a profit? If the wind only blows 99 out of 100 days that means 1 out of 100 days you are not making money and of course there are very few places in the world where the wind blows 99% of the time (most of those places people do not live).
They worked for little farms in the middle of no where. And if there wasn’t a better way, they would have progressed to supply the masses.
Nope. This is Chatham, Ontario, Canada.
Just east of Windsor/Detroit border.
My property is my property, and I have a right to use it. “Property values” is no excuse for trying to violate property rights.
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Acoustic Vibration Disease Hat
66 percent of Tea Party members would agree with having wind turbines near their homes (Saint Consulting Group, poll of 1,000 in US, June, 2011). 73 percent of men agreed but far fewer women.
Environmentalists are against Wind power
Wind turbine syndrome news report
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Wind Nimby Rant
John Stossel Wind Power and NIMBY
[Environmentalists against wind turbines.]
Wind power makes sense where it is windy and there are no close power lines.
If commercial electric power is available wind power is always going to be more expensive. There is no way wind power can compete in a free market unless you are somewhere where there is no fossil fuels and fuel must be imported (a volcanic island in the middle of the Pacific ocean).
Hundreds of slow-turning wind-mills as far as the eye could see....stretching for miles south and east from the cement ribbon of Rte. 59 which cuts through the area.
I felt I was in a Twilight Zone segment....no people or animals to be seen, a few incongruous farm houses dotting the bland landscape here and there, no birds flying around. I sensed an eerie, unseen pall over the whole scenario and a disquietude within myself viewing this mechanical parade of robot-looking behemoths marching over the horizon like metal Godzillas.
All I could think of as I viewed the endless multiplication of the silent unblinking steel structures was that it was like a Salvador Dali landscape, not in looks but in feel and aura.
Anyone who's a student of Dali will know what I mean.
He’s not including the benefits of feeding the shredded poultry downstream to the starving victims of the Baraqqi Depression.
>>They worked for little farms in the middle of no where.
Around here they were used for stock tanks. Great little independent off-grid water pump power.
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