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A Pennsylvania Village Is Without Water After Fracking Allegedly Destroyed Its Wells
Business Insider ^ | 01/07/2012 | AP

Posted on 01/07/2012 2:29:37 PM PST by SeekAndFind

ALLENTOWN, Pa. (AP) — Residents of a northeastern Pennsylvania village where a natural gas driller has been accused of tainting water wells with methane and possibly hazardous chemicals say the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is promising to deliver fresh water.

Homeowners in Dimock Township have been without a reliable supply of clean water since Houston-based driller Cabot Oil & Gas Corp. stopped making daily deliveries more than a month ago.

Three Dimock residents say the EPA told them Friday it's hiring a private contractor to deliver water to their homes about 20 miles south of the New York state line. The EPA says no decision has been made.

Cabot has been blamed for polluting an aquifer but denies responsibility for the contamination.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: environmentalism; epadeliverswater; fracking; pennslyvaniafracking; pennsylvania; pennsylvaniawells; water
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1 posted on 01/07/2012 2:29:42 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

See also here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/residents-epa-promises-to-send-fresh-water-to-pa-town-with-tainted-wells/2012/01/06/gIQAYqqpfP_story.html

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Residents: EPA promises to send fresh water to Pa. town with tainted wells


2 posted on 01/07/2012 2:30:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

My water is supplied by a well. I’d be pretty pissed off if someone poisoned it.


3 posted on 01/07/2012 2:35:29 PM PST by Grunthor (At least he is better than Obama! Is NOT a rallying cry!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d almost wonder if the fuel extraction company volunteered to do that (not hugely expensive) and the EPA basically said no, we want this to be a Superfund case with all the obese weight of Uncle Sam on it?


4 posted on 01/07/2012 2:36:35 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Grunthor

And then you have to wait on an intrusive Uncle Sam to make it right... would not know what’s worse.


5 posted on 01/07/2012 2:40:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If the wells were never tested for those chemicals etc prior to the fracking than there is nothing to compare the results with/to. It sounds like the water has been tested and it is fine and that there's just an agitator.

Hell, we had all kinds of cr** in our water. We were constantly changing plumbing...in fact, I'm now a pretty good plumber.

6 posted on 01/07/2012 2:44:39 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Well drillers in this area have been hitting methane gas for years.


7 posted on 01/07/2012 2:47:16 PM PST by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: SeekAndFind

bookmark


8 posted on 01/07/2012 2:48:24 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: SeekAndFind
This case is much like the woman who claimed that the HPV vaccine caused her daughter's mental retardation. When something bad happens, it's human nature to search for the cause. And if some unusual occurrence happened to coincide with the misfortune, the unusual occurrence is assumed to be at fault.

Fracking may have caused the contamination, but it's by no means certain. And when did the EPA turn into a welfare agency? Oh, never mind. I answered that one myself.

9 posted on 01/07/2012 2:49:14 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Anybody who also uses a water softener would have had at least rudimentary tests performed on their water to determine what the softener has to deal with, and county code doubtless requires health testing when a well is dug unless, maybe, it’s a very old one grandfathered in.

Anyhow, it’s theoretically possible the company f-ed up the aquifers and then went dancing la la la, but that sounds like an extremely foolish move on their part with Uncle Sam breathing down their necks all the time right or wrong.


10 posted on 01/07/2012 2:49:30 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: SeekAndFind

Rock formations in that country hold all kinds of methane. Some water well drillers will not drill in certain areas due to risk of gas fire. Fracking goes on at incredible depths below any water structures and the bore holes are so sealed that cross contamination is, for all practical purposes, impossible.


11 posted on 01/07/2012 2:50:22 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Grunthor

I’m calling BS commie spin on this one. there has been exactly 1 contamination event from fracking(a holding pool issue) The vid w/homeowners lighting taps on fire was proven to not be related to fracking. Fracking fluids are basically salad dressing with ultra fine sand.


12 posted on 01/07/2012 2:51:30 PM PST by waynesa98
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To: Grunthor

Damn straight, this has to be regulated, or it’s not going to fly. No one wants this BS if they can’t post the bonding to cover the losses they should not be on any job.
This is going to be a mess, the no drill crowd will be all over the news on this, where is the guy who drilled ?


13 posted on 01/07/2012 2:52:32 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: SeekAndFind
Residents were furious when the EPA told them in late November that sampling data reviewed by the agency did not show that their well water posed an “immediate health threat.” EPA officials returned to Dimock last week to reopen the probe and said they may begin their own sampling of residents’ water.

I didn't see that there IS a problem with the water/wells. It sounds like a "suggestion" that there "may" be.

14 posted on 01/07/2012 2:52:56 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: BfloGuy

Welfare agency? This sounds a lot like the modus operandi of the Superfund system which fixes alleged problems then goes and sues the alleged offender for the cost. Which situation Rats would have been drooling to have go down at a fracking site. They will probably kill this contractor or make him say uncle with court costs even if the case evidence itself is dubious. Every fracker from coast to coast would be wise to get behind this guy.


15 posted on 01/07/2012 2:53:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Lion Den Dan
In 1911 Michigan's first commercial natural gas well began production. The tabulation of "Reported Discoveries of Gas in Michigan" in the Geological Survey Bulletins is longer than the oil well list and included 116 wells. These were mostly located in ­southeastern Michigan, including Macomb, Oakland, St. Clair and Wayne counties as well as in Manistee County in western Michigan. Many of the early natural gas discoveries were most likely made not as a result of a search for oil or natural gas but were instead test wells drilled for salt or for fresh water. Strong flows of gas from water wells are not unusual in southeastern Michigan and sometimes the shallower rims of the basin can still provide a surprise. In the mid 1980s holes drilled to provide footings for a highway overpass in St. Clair County "blew out" with natural gas. The flow of gas from these early wells was usually quite small. The largest volume of natural gas was in St. Clair County were wells supplied "several families" in one case, "pumps, drills and two houses" in another case and "one house" in a number of instances.

Michigan Oil and Natural Gas Exploration Before 1925
16 posted on 01/07/2012 2:55:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: reefdiver; All

Don’t be so cock certain it isn’t regulated, in a most byzantine manner however. It might be a situation where the company wanted to do the neighborly thing in the face of dubious but theoretically possible well damage, and the EPA itself told them take a hike but see you in court. I really expect nothing less from an Obama administration.


17 posted on 01/07/2012 2:56:48 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: cripplecreek

I wonder if lemons can’t be made out of such lemonade situations. If a water well produces methane, then put a separator in the well and bottle up the methane. And/or supply natural gas to yourself and/or neighbors. And/or sink community wells for that purpose.


18 posted on 01/07/2012 3:02:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: leapfrog0202

19 posted on 01/07/2012 3:02:38 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: cripplecreek

Duh! I mean lemonade made of such lemon situations of course. The Rats would want to turn the lemonade back into lemons.


20 posted on 01/07/2012 3:04:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: cripplecreek

I grew up in Brighton, on Kensington road which climbs the highest hill in Livingston county, where the GM proving grounds sit. Half way up the hill and directly across the road from my FILs property is a very large gas well that was put in back in the early eighties.. That well was a large find, the guy who’s property it sits on is very well paid each month, so I can’t believe it is only getting enough gas to compare to what you just mentioned. Rumors were floated about how much gas they found there, but I remember it was enough to put in a “sweetener plant” for it, whatever that is.


21 posted on 01/07/2012 3:06:27 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Sacajaweau

If you first define intolerable levels of a substance to a very low level, then test old wells for those, of course you are going to come up with “poisonous water”. I part per billion of arsenic? O NO, we can’t drink that. They don’t tell you how many parts per billion of “poison” are in potatoes and other “healthy” vegetables and fruit


22 posted on 01/07/2012 3:06:56 PM PST by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics. ProgressiveRepublicansInConservativeCostume)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

When I live near Cadillac Michigan I knew a guy who had a system that let the gas bubble off and burn in a couple of gas lamps in his yard. The water itself was fine.


23 posted on 01/07/2012 3:10:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: waynesa98

Agree. Here in the land of the freerepublic, nearly all accept this story as the truth. Color me very skeptical.


24 posted on 01/07/2012 3:11:50 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: TLEIBY308

I just ate some beans....


25 posted on 01/07/2012 3:14:24 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SeekAndFind

More agenda driven science by the EPA.


26 posted on 01/07/2012 3:16:53 PM PST by bray (Ride Santorum back to Sanity)
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To: Abathar
There's gas under the whole lower peninsula of Michigan.

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On nights with low clouds I can see the flares all around me here in Jackson county.

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The bright light in the center was where a new drilling rig was at the time I took the pic.
27 posted on 01/07/2012 3:17:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: cripplecreek

This is where Gaia farts.


28 posted on 01/07/2012 3:18:40 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Jacquerie

Not so sure you would get a majority agreement that this is a “substantially accurate” story, if you took a poll. But it sure would be nice to ferret out the details of the controversy.


29 posted on 01/07/2012 3:22:05 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: SeekAndFind
Everyone knows that fracking causes earthquakes, sunspots, warts, acne and cancer.

Oh, and dementia in leftists.

30 posted on 01/07/2012 3:29:12 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (Ignorance is no excuse.)
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To: bray
A Pennsylvania Village Is Without Water After Fracking Allegedly Destroyed Its Wells

What?

Did all the rain barrels explode?

"Artesian wells" drilled in solid rock are not all they're cracked up to be. I've seen some of the worst "drinking water" in my life come from some of these low producing deep wells that can contain sulfur, iron, uranium, radon gas etc. Oh Yeah! It's got minerals.

People spend thousands of dollars on this crap water. I think if they just treated their rain water they'd be way ahead and have better water.

It rains 40+" a year here.

31 posted on 01/07/2012 3:32:17 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is this not in the place where they had the well blow out????


32 posted on 01/07/2012 3:36:25 PM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newts, Perry,s and Willard,s positions on Amnesty.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Wells can vary widely in quality even in a small area. The church I go to has well water with sulfur like a skunk. Neighbors three doors down from the church have a well and it’s clear and clean, and no it’s not due to extra water treatment.


33 posted on 01/07/2012 3:36:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: SeekAndFind

More background info. if anyone will google,

DEP’s Dimock Decision Based On 2010 Agreement, Not Water Quality


34 posted on 01/07/2012 3:39:01 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: TLEIBY308

I saw video on you tube where a drill rig burned down after catching fire when it hit a gas pocket at 900 feet. Some places have had gas in the water for 125 years and that is before drilling.


35 posted on 01/07/2012 3:39:09 PM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: SeekAndFind
No Indications of Contamination from Gas Well Hydro Fracturing Activities
36 posted on 01/07/2012 3:45:06 PM PST by epithermal
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To: waynesa98
Fracking fluids are basically salad dressing with ultra fine sand.

Ranch?

37 posted on 01/07/2012 3:47:02 PM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: SeekAndFind
are they sure someone did not dump something that made its way into the ground water and the EPA is using this to shore up THEIR contention that Fracking is bad
38 posted on 01/07/2012 4:07:36 PM PST by jrd
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You know that the statists in both parties will have made that illegal without a 15 year environmental study and many tens of thousands spent on the proper licenses.


39 posted on 01/07/2012 4:23:17 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: mountainlion
Fracking fluids are basically salad dressing with ultra fine sand. Ranch?

Of course not. Thousand Island.

40 posted on 01/07/2012 4:23:37 PM PST by Dysart (#Changeitback)
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41 posted on 01/07/2012 4:25:36 PM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry)
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To: Vendome

“I just ate some beans.... “

My love of beans makes me no martyr,
I’m a truly magnificent farter;
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42 posted on 01/07/2012 4:28:07 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: SeekAndFind

The bottom line for me:

If the EPA is involved, I don’t believe a word of it.


43 posted on 01/07/2012 4:29:20 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: tumblindice

LOLOLOLOL


44 posted on 01/07/2012 4:47:47 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Dysart
Fracking fluids are basically salad dressing with ultra fine sand. Ranch?

Of course not. Thousand Island.

Well of course, I should have known!

45 posted on 01/07/2012 5:11:18 PM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Anyhow, it’s theoretically possible the company f-ed up the aquifers and then went dancing la la la, but that sounds like an extremely foolish move on their part with Uncle Sam breathing down their necks all the time right or wrong.

"Theoretically", yes.

But, almost certainly, NO!

First, we're talking Pennsylvania -- almost the entire stte is underlaid by coalbeds of one depth or another. Which means that most wells are naturally subject to intrusion by coalbed methane and need to be vented.

Second, the Marcellus Shale strata being fracked is a mile-and-a-half (or more) beneath the aquifers tapped for well water and any coalbeds -- and separated from them by several other impermeable strata.

Speaking from the middle of the Barnett Shale, where horizontal drilling and fracking was first employed in the early nineties, the Dimock complainers (and the EPA) are full of it.

Let's start with any well water tests made before the drilling began. I'd wager there was evidence of methane.

46 posted on 01/07/2012 5:17:37 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: SeekAndFind; epithermal; HiTech RedNeck; Jacquerie; cripplecreek; Mr. K; All
Federal Agency Cancels Water Delivery to Pennsylvania Town [Saturday, 1-7-12]

ALLENTOWN, Pa. – The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency abruptly changed its mind Saturday about delivering fresh water to residents of a northeastern Pennsylvania village where residential wells were found to be tainted by a natural gas drilling operation.

Only 24 hours after promising them water, EPA officials informed residents of Dimock that a tanker truck wouldn't be coming after all -- an about-face that left them furious, confused and let down -- and, once again, scrambling for water for bathing, washing dishes and flushing toilets.

Agency officials would not explain why they reneged on their promise, or say whether water would be delivered at some point.

47 posted on 01/07/2012 6:43:25 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Companies need to spend money ahead of time documenting baseline conditions BEFORE putting a bit in the ground. If this operation is in coal country, just the pumping of groundwater from shallow wells that penetrate coal seams can release methane. There are ways to analyze the gas to determine where it originates, but prevention before drilling is the best method.

Then there is the possibility that new water wells to support drilling infrastructure (from drilling make-up water to water for employee trailers) can lower the water table releasing methane from coal seams. So though fracking itself may not have caused pollution, increased human activity in the area may have upset the balance. I’ve seen this happen in Northern New Mexico so have an idea that this, rather than fracking, may be the cause.


48 posted on 01/07/2012 8:44:12 PM PST by CedarDave (I'm one of the 75 percenters: Nominate a conservative and not Romney as the GOP candidate)
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To: CedarDave
I’ve seen this happen in Northern New Mexico so have an idea that this, rather than fracking, may be the cause.

Makes sense.

Where there is coal, there is methane. Pennsylvania used to be a major natural gas producer -- on the basis of shallow coal-bed methane. There are abandoned wells all over the state.

49 posted on 01/07/2012 8:58:04 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: SeekAndFind

They do this all the time in Texas, too. They poison water wells. One guy could torch his faucet gas “water.” It is a huge problem the industry likes to pretend is a “conspiracy theory.” LOL This country is insane.

You can’t run this country and economy without energy; you can’t live without clean water and air. Unfortunately, we have the radical water melons always waiting in the wings to make things much worse instead of solving the problems. On the other side we have the hear no evil, see no evil, say no evil profit is all that matters, energy industry supporters. It boils down to stupid versus evil. There is no good will and common sense permitted.


50 posted on 01/07/2012 9:18:52 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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