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THE TRIAL OF SSGT. WUTERICH:Final Battle Of Haditha Set To Begin
DEFEND OUR MARINES ^ | 1-6-2012 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 01/07/2012 2:51:31 PM PST by smoothsailing

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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the ping, jaz....and thank you Nat Helms for providing coverage at the court martial.

Two reasons manslaughter charges make no sense:

SSgt Wuterich and his team were given orders to take the house;
The ROE at the time were consistent with those used in taking these houses;

Beyond that, SSgt Wuterich just does not have the demeanor of a hothead, revengeful person. Rather, his concern about bringing his men home would be his failing, if anything.

I’m hopeful that the panelists can understand the difference between ROE of today and those at the time.....and maybe also realize that the political overreaction to this incident has not necessarily been of benefit to our men in combat zones.


21 posted on 01/07/2012 5:40:23 PM PST by Girlene (Tatertot casserole, maybe.....cake? No.)
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To: ArmyTeach

Thanks and to reference this thread too.


22 posted on 01/07/2012 5:43:02 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Girlene

Agreed, Girl. The panelists will understand the ROE in effect then very clearly by the time the defense attorneys are through drilling it into them as well as the political witchhunts that started with a certain Congressman.


23 posted on 01/07/2012 6:03:06 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: smoothsailing; jazusamo
S: Thanks for the post. J: Thanks for the ping.
I almost broke down as I read the whole report. I keep going back to two extremes. One the good Sargent holding one of his little girls in her bedroom, a picture posted here a few years back. And walking through the horrible events of that day for that squad of Marines on the ground. The parked cars, the potential haji that moved around those vehicles, the known expectancy of running into Iraqi that hated the US forces and would go against them, in that immediate AOR, the little Iraqi girl that later did admit she keep her hands on her ears in anticipation of a big blast to go off.
Our Marines quickly moving about to cover their own squad members. Shortly realizing one of them went down. Many of the thoughts that would have gone into each of their minds as the Sargent issued hand signals, verbal orders.
Haji laying low until the right moment to jump out of one of those neighboring houses, or stay in it at a window if targets of opportunity arouse so they could open up with their AK-47 and perhaps hand grenades. The instant reflexes members of the squad had to do to neutralize those goons standing about that white vehicle. Then blinks later, those that occupied those dwellings, not knowing just who was inside of them.
The goon somewhere within that mix that had a finger on a detonation button.
Simply put. A fucking pure Hell. And then to think back how the ex Marine goon from PA, said they murdered people in cold blood?
I earnestly hope, prayerfully, the judge as well as the prosecutor side will join the ranks of those that do represent the honor bound principles of the Marine Corps., and give in to pressure from the powers that be and end up fully dropping all charges against SSGT Wuterrich, and finally closing this case.
Let the good Sargent stay in the Corps. if he so desires and in any event, provide the way he can take care of his three little girls in the near and long term, not behind bars for something he does not deserve.
End of my prayer for this fine Marine.
I ask the Lord God of Abraham and Issac, as a Christian, to answer this prayer. So that this fine Marine's heart and all his as well as so many others, will finally be lifted up. We can then give HIM the praise and thanks for what HE had done. HE Knows the whole sequence. HE knows what these fine Marines where up against. He knows their hearts.
HE fully knows even beyond what we can appreciate,the ROE, they had to honor and obey, during that period of time, and the conditions these Marines where faced with.

Let HIS Almighty Hand of justice come upon this trial.

Enough said. Smooth and Jazz, and anyone else still tuned into this thread, do have a safe and healthy new day.
24 posted on 01/07/2012 10:12:22 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Let HIS Almighty Hand of justice come upon this trial.

Amen to that, MU. Well said.

25 posted on 01/08/2012 10:02:50 AM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: Marine_Uncle; jazusamo; RedRover
I almost broke down as I read the whole report. I keep going back to two extremes. One the good Sargent holding one of his little girls in her bedroom, a picture posted here a few years back. And walking through the horrible events of that day for that squad of Marines on the ground.


26 posted on 01/09/2012 10:48:05 AM PST by smoothsailing ((www.FrankWuterich,com))
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To: smoothsailing; lilycicero

Thanks for the link. There are photos there I’ve never seen! (Lily, you’ll want to check it out.)


27 posted on 01/09/2012 12:09:26 PM PST by RedRover
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To: smoothsailing

Yeah Smooth. That was the one. God bless him and his.


28 posted on 01/09/2012 12:51:55 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: RedRover; lilycicero

The pictures were taken by Max Gerber, the photographer who was assigned to the Time magazine “stories”.

Putting that aside, he has posted his thoughts along with the pictures on what appears to be his personal blog. It’s an interesting read as are the comments.

The pictures were taken in September 2006 and posted in June 2008.


29 posted on 01/09/2012 1:51:17 PM PST by smoothsailing ((www.FrankWuterich,com))
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To: smoothsailing; RedRover

Thanks for the pingaling...going to ck it out and the rest of the news for today!


30 posted on 01/09/2012 4:28:38 PM PST by lilycicero (Why do I feel like the slow cousin who only reads picture books?)
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To: jazusamo
...as well as the political witchhunts that started with a certain Congressman.

I go back further, to the yellow journalism of TIME's Tim McGirk and the cowardly response to his lies by the panty waist Pentagon. Dead Murtha merely jumped on the America-hating liberal bandwagon and let the Penatgon know they better play ball, and get somebody!

And now here is Frank Wuterich, more than six years after the deadly ambush.
Yeah, this is fair and just. I cannot believe the scumbag perfumed princes of the Pentagon haven't dropped all charges yet.

31 posted on 01/09/2012 4:40:23 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Praying for SSGT Wuterich.


32 posted on 01/09/2012 4:48:25 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: smoothsailing; jazusamo; RedRover; Girlene; Marine_Uncle
MURTHA DECEASED

WUTERICH RELEASED

33 posted on 01/09/2012 5:00:55 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo; Marine_Uncle

“been a long time, PhilDragoo. Good to hear from you, and thanks for bringing me back to this thread. What a heartfelt and meaningful post 24, Marine Uncle.


34 posted on 01/09/2012 5:16:26 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Lancey Howard

You’re correct...McJerk started the lies by printing and adding to what insurgents fed him in Haditha. Then the powers that be in the Pentagon, which were never identified by Murtha or anyone else, promoted the outrageous story like sheep.

It’s sad that those people will never be held accountable by the people, as well as that certain Congressman.


35 posted on 01/09/2012 5:18:15 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: PhilDragoo

Thanks Phil, your graphic is most appropriate!


36 posted on 01/09/2012 5:21:27 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: lilycicero

I don’t think the Cartoon Network is covering the trial but it’s worth a look.


37 posted on 01/09/2012 5:32:03 PM PST by RedRover
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To: jazusamo
Higher Court ruled on Murtha. Iran's tide will dissolve Iraq's sand castle. Providence protect SSGT WUTERICH.
38 posted on 01/09/2012 5:35:54 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo

Amen!


39 posted on 01/09/2012 5:40:16 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: RedRover

May you live with ameerf :)


40 posted on 01/09/2012 7:31:33 PM PST by lilycicero
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