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Recall divides rural Wisconsin
Wisconsin Reporter ^ | 1-6-12 | M.D. Kittle

Posted on 01/07/2012 3:06:57 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic

PLATTEVILLE — At Ed’s Café, a table full of old-timers finished their coffee and ribbed a fellow member of their lunch bunch about fixing his truck.

It was all good-natured fun at this Platteville truck stop, popular among rural residents and people passing through on U.S. 151.

But when the talk turned to politics, as it tends to do at Ed’s, the group of men grew stone serious.

They had plenty to say about what they see as the terrible state of affairs in Wisconsin’s divided political climate, just nothing they wanted to share with Wisconsin Reporter — at least for attribution in a story.

Like many rural Wisconsin residents, these men said they are not happy about the barrage of recall campaigns that have hit the state for the better part of the past year, including the latest effort to oust Gov. Scott Walker and Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch.

Ben Cargill, 27, a cook at Ed’s, wasn’t shy about expressing his disdain.

“If you ask me, I think it’s a waste of time and money,” he said, adding that recall supporters should have to pay the bill for the cost of recall elections.

Unlike many of his Platteville neighbors, Cargill said he thinks Walker is “doing a fine job,” balancing a state budget once bogged down by a $3.6 billion shortfall.

Cargill said his father, a retired baker at University of Wisconsin-Platteville, has an entirely different view of a governor who led the effort to reform collective bargaining for most public employees. Walker’s budget repair bill also requires public workers to contribute more to the cost of their health insurance and pensions.

Along the rolling hills of U.S. 151, from just north of Dubuque, Iowa, through Iowa County, signs speak for or against Walker, even though the recall story doesn’t often seem to be told in Wisconsin’s rural reaches.

While the images of protests and petition signing from Madison, Milwaukee and the urban parts of the Badger State often make headlines, small-town Wisconsin could have a big say in the state’s political direction.

Grant County, home to Platteville, the largest city in far southwest Wisconsin, helped Republican Walker beat Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, a Democrat, in the 2010 governor’s election. Walker received 52 percent of the votes in Grant County, mirroring his statewide election numbers.

More than 52 percent of voters in nearby Lafayette County supported Walker.

But heading north along U.S. 151, in Iowa County, neighbor to Dane County and the Madison metropolitan area, support for candidate Walker fell off to 44 percent of the vote.

Little town split

Mineral Point is a dividing line.

This historic little Wisconsin city founded on mining and defined, in large part, by its artisan community is like a lot of Badger State communities — split over the recall question.

Chuck Bennett, a Mineral Point resident who’s “proud to be” 50, asserts the math works out closer to 65 percent to 35 percent, with Walker on the short end. His front yard sports a bold red “Recall Walker” sign, and a few other signs are in his neighborhood.

Bennett asserts Mineral Point is divided because of Walker.

“My biggest issues are, along with a lot of people I know, is what he didn’t reveal in his campaign and what he came out and did,” Bennett said, noting Act 10, the bill dismantling collective bargaining that Walker rolled out in February. “It’s just another way of lying.”

That sentiment is common among Walker’s opponents, repeatedly espoused by the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, leading the recall campaign.

Bill Spevacek, 77, a member of the Democratic Party of Iowa County, said he and his wife have signed the petitions and support Walker’s recall for the same reasons.

“The closest word I can come to it is ‘criminal,’” Spevacek said. “He didn’t tell us anything about knocking off state employee unions.”

The cancer survivor said he joined his son and 12-year-old grandson at the Capitol in February, among tens of thousands of people protesting Act 10. Spevacek joked that his part in the demonstrations at least qualifies him as Time Magazine’s Person of the Year, which heralded 2011 as the year of the protester.

“Walker, in my estimate, has been a total failure, and the quicker we get him out of office the better we’ll be,” he said.

In an interview late last month with Wisconsin Reporter, Walker said the charge that he had Act 10 in the bag is patently false. He said this charge mainly comes from big union bosses who “can’t get their hands on union dues” anymore.

“Did I plan the bill? No. But I laid out the parameters,” he said.

“The irony of all ironies with what’s transpired, particularly of late these last few months, is most people in Wisconsin and across America get upset with politicians who break their promises,” Walker added. “I’ve actually fulfilled my promises, and I’ve got people who don’t like that. That’s fine. They’re right to do that, but it does kind of run contrary to where most people get their outrage. It’s usually because someone did something they said they wouldn’t do.”

Jim and Patricia Johnson advertise their political convictions in their front yard

The Johnsons are fans of the governor, a fact betrayed by the blue “Walker We Support You” sign on the lawn of their home along Mineral Point’s U.S. 151.

Jim Johnson, a 79-year-old former executive with Wisconsin Power & Light Co., a subsidiary of Alliant Energy Corp., said Walker has done some positive things in his year in office.

Johnson’s brother, Ken Johnson, 79, also of Mineral Point, has debated politics with his big brother for years. Ken, a “strong union man” who worked as a machinist for 29 years, said he would never vote for Walker.

“I feel state workers should pay more for their retirement and for their health care, they should pay their fair share,” he said. “But I don’t think in any way (Walker) had the right to step in with collective bargaining. Let the people bargain.”

The brothers Johnson do agree on one political point: The governor should not be recalled.

“I believe when you elect a man for his term, he should serve his term out,” Ken said. “If you don’t like it, go back and vote against him the next time. All they’re doing is opening a can of worms with this recall.”

And they both agree that civil discourse has too often broken down in Wisconsin politics.

“You’re not going to get everything you want in life. You have to give and take,” Jim said. “I think the give-and-take process right now is in deep trouble with the Republican and Democratic parties.”

« 2012 off with a bang in Wisconsin


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1 posted on 01/07/2012 3:07:11 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; TaMoDee; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ..

Wisconsin Recall in Rural Areas Ping

If you want to be on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list, just FReep Mail me and it shall be done.

Somehow we’ve got to get the word out to these rural areas. Walker campigned on every one of thee changes -— in fact talked about them for 5 years before the election. Don’t forget that he was running for the governorship back in 2006 before Green entered the race and Walker dropped out at the behest of the National GOP and Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner.


2 posted on 01/07/2012 3:13:55 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
And the zombies just keep on coming.
3 posted on 01/07/2012 3:18:10 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I've noticed something here in Green Bay, every car with a "Recall Walker" sticker is nicer than the one I drive.

I talked to 2 teachers in a bar before Christmas. They told me about the land they had just purchased up in the UP of MI and their new home. They drove a Lexus. They were very angry that Walker wanted them to pay something for their Health Insurance.

The obnoxious lady in Appleton who asked me to sign the Recall Petition and could not understand my "no thank you" response - she drove off in a Saab convertible.

Having another beer after work, protesters against Walker came in to the bar and were ordering $9.00 pints of beer and talking about how they first tried this brand of beer during a trip to Europe.

I work about 60 hours a week. I have never been to Europe. I can't afford a Lexus or a Saab. Then again, I pay for my health insurance and my retirement plan.

I like Gov. Walker. I hope there are more people like me than the greedy public union folks I have met.

4 posted on 01/07/2012 3:26:18 PM PST by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I've noticed something here in Green Bay, every car with a "Recall Walker" sticker is nicer than the one I drive.

I talked to 2 teachers in a bar before Christmas. They told me about the land they had just purchased up in the UP of MI and their new home. They drove a Lexus. They were very angry that Walker wanted them to pay something for their Health Insurance.

The obnoxious lady in Appleton who asked me to sign the Recall Petition and could not understand my "no thank you" response - she drove off in a Saab convertible.

Having another beer after work, protesters against Walker came in to the bar and were ordering $9.00 pints of beer and talking about how they first tried this brand of beer during a trip to Europe.

I work about 60 hours a week. I have never been to Europe. I can't afford a Lexus or a Saab. Then again, I pay for my health insurance and my retirement plan.

I like Gov. Walker. I hope there are more people like me than the greedy public union folks I have met.

5 posted on 01/07/2012 3:26:18 PM PST by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I drive a company service vehicle around the state, between one and two thousand miles per week. I have a “Reward Walker” bumper sticker on my van that my employer thankfully allows. I get far more positive feedback than negative, but that probably doesn’t mean much.


6 posted on 01/07/2012 3:26:38 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Ping


7 posted on 01/07/2012 3:28:45 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I notice on my drive to work that a car sporting an Obama sticker is usually a foreign made car...go figure.


8 posted on 01/07/2012 3:34:39 PM PST by Engedi (Hec)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Independence, WI, recall people


La Crosse, WI, recall people. There was another group close by with about the same amount of people. In all, there were about 25 people at the height of the screaming and drumming in La Crosse today.


Our fabulous Lt. Gov. spoke at our campaign office gathering and she was on fire.

9 posted on 01/07/2012 3:36:22 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: gorush

Where’d you get the bumper, gorush?


10 posted on 01/07/2012 3:44:16 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Awaken Oh America...)
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To: rabidralph

Rebecca is the best! I’ve met her and heard her speak many times. We are lucky to have her in our corner. She may be petite but she is dynamite and a huge defender of the Constitution and Scott Walker.


11 posted on 01/07/2012 3:45:38 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Awaken Oh America...)
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To: Mountain Mary

My BIL’s friend had a bunch of them made. I haven’t seen any others, however, probably out of fear of vandalism...that’s the beauty of a company vehicle. :{)


12 posted on 01/07/2012 3:47:51 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Mountain Mary

Absolutely! She’s a wonderful lady and quite unafraid.


13 posted on 01/07/2012 3:51:07 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

Those recall people sure look lonely. Can’t Mickey Mouse and Elvis come by and pitch in?


14 posted on 01/07/2012 3:58:30 PM PST by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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To: rabidralph

Those recall people sure look lonely. Can’t Mickey Mouse and Elvis come by and pitch in?


15 posted on 01/07/2012 3:58:54 PM PST by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The peasants in Wi will be brought to heel by their social betters.

The liberal machine has had free reign for at least 3 decades in that state. It’s not going to go down without a vicious fight - a fight they are currently winning (thanks for not caring.)


16 posted on 01/07/2012 4:01:42 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Volunteer
Then again, I pay for my health insurance and my retirement plan.

That's one of the things that really bugs me. I pay $380 a month for my health insurance, but people who make 2-5 times what I do expect me to be upset that they have to pay $12????
17 posted on 01/07/2012 4:17:24 PM PST by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Volunteer

Sounds like most of the school employee parking lots here in MN.

Wellstone ,Franken and/or Obama stickers still on them and 100K miles less and 10 years newer than my car.

But they’re always bitching. Then they disappear for the summer to their 2nd home they call a cabin.


18 posted on 01/07/2012 4:26:21 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

So the recallers here in Wisconsin think it’s better to force workers to be union members even if they don’t want to, allow collective bargaining to be a very expensive and restrictive offering for municipalities and school districts, protect teachers even though they are not doing their jobs and are not providing a good education to our students, allow the unions to run the Democratic Party and thus the state, lay-off teachers and other union members to fight budgets while giving union workers free perks or very inexpesive perks as they must be so special in comparison to the non-union taxpaying worker, increase taxes on business, industry and those evil corporations which of course is passed on to the consumer, raid funds unlawfully as Democrat Gov. Doyle did as a budget trick to make things look better than they were (Gov. Walker had to clean up that mess), increase state taxes by $1 billion in the middle of the night after only 24 hours of discussion and allowing NO public input, and on and on and on. Get a life people!


19 posted on 01/07/2012 4:31:03 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: rabidralph

Was anyone signing?

I swear that they’ve given up in Ozaukee County. I don’t see anyone out soliciting signatures, and I know of nly ONE yard sign out in favor of the recal, There were 2, but one of them has been flat in the ditch for 2 weeks with nobody making an attempt to put it back up.


20 posted on 01/07/2012 4:32:33 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Volunteer
I like Gov. Walker. I hope there are more people like me than the greedy public union folks I have met.

I think you should expand this into an article and get it published. Great work.

TS

21 posted on 01/07/2012 4:33:34 PM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: Volunteer
I like Gov. Walker. I hope there are more people like me than the greedy public union folks I have met.

I think you should expand this into an article and get it published. Great work.

TS

22 posted on 01/07/2012 4:33:34 PM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: Volunteer

I agree with The Shrew. This would make a terrific Letter to the Editor of your local paper!


23 posted on 01/07/2012 4:40:42 PM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Volunteer
I talked to 2 teachers in a bar before Christmas. They told me about the land they had just purchased up in the UP of MI and their new home. They drove a Lexus. They were very angry that Walker wanted them to pay something for their Health Insurance.

The Wisconsin Governmental Free Scheisse Army (GFSA) is MAD! They're really MAD!!!

24 posted on 01/07/2012 4:40:49 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: rabidralph

I don’t speak ‘DRUM’


25 posted on 01/07/2012 4:43:35 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: rabidralph

Get some folks together and set up a stand of your own, far enough up the road so they don’t see you. Collect your own recall signatures. Most people (I hope) won’t stop to sign again when they reach the real recall supporters.

If you do encounter one of the other groups, offer to turn in their signatures for them. Mighty neighborly of you.


26 posted on 01/07/2012 4:48:19 PM PST by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Before Walker took office, the Dem governor, Jim Doyle, was continuing the long Dem Party tradition of spending the state into a deep hole. The privileged state public union workers didn’t have to contribute anything to their health and retirement. When Walker took office one year ago and started cutting into the three billion plus deficit, the Dems howled from here to Mars. Now, one year later, the deficit is no more, and we are now running a three hundred million surplus. As usual, the Dems claim we’ll have people dying by the hundreds of thousands (I exaggerate slightly) because of Walker’s cuts. Baloney.


27 posted on 01/07/2012 4:56:28 PM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2; From The Deer Stand

I agree with all you say. All I can think is that the Dems and unionistas (essentially one and the same) think that we’re all stupid. If they didn’t know Walker’s plan before the election, they weren’t paying attention.


28 posted on 01/07/2012 5:10:37 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Volunteer

teachers in this country are the biggest pigs and waste of resources going.


29 posted on 01/07/2012 5:12:38 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: rabidralph

The pic of the petition folks looks like the groups I saw here in NW WI for a few weeks. 3-5 people with signs, but no one ever seemed to be signing anything; it was just the campaigners standing there talking among themselves. Haven’t seen even that sort of group since early Dec. or so. I almost think it’s just a facade to make people believe the signatures they submit are real.

There are maybe three or four recall signs around here. I just noticed a marquee-type sign outside a local appliance store and propane dealership that said “God bless Scott Walker for lowering my taxes”. I need to order propane on Monday. I may just call them instead of my usual dealer (although I doubt they’re pro-recall either).


30 posted on 01/07/2012 5:14:10 PM PST by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I don’t know. I was inside the GOP headquarters, listening to Rebecca. The protesters were across the street from the HQ.


31 posted on 01/07/2012 5:14:27 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

Didn’t y’all also put an end to union dues being collected by employers out of staff paychecks? That’s what’s really killing the rats.


32 posted on 01/07/2012 5:24:29 PM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: tanuki
They were pretty pathetic. I was accosted by one of their supporters--some guy in his 60s or so. He told me that his truck had only 60-thousand miles on it and he pays $50 a month for gas and his brother is mad at him because he pays so little and his brother can't get any overtime anymore at the place he works so he's madder and his dad used to sell muskrat pelts for $5 apiece and he would catch 250 a season so you do the math and he loves Apocalypse Now but you have to see the restored version and when Robert Duvall was lying on the ground after the Huey flew over and rockets were being fired and he was the leader of the Calvary (sic) and he said I love smell of napalm in the morning that was a great scene and he was also in Lonesome Dove and this guy stroked his hair and told him it would be all right but the guy was mean and it was a nice scene that he was nice to Duvall and then his friend made him a metal pole to chop into the ice with for icefishing and one day he was fishing with his dad and his chopper fell through the ice and so did he and he lost hold of his chopper but he got out of the water with the help of his dad and he's so grateful that he got help for his bipolar after being in jail for a while and that he's doing better.

I learned all this after stepping outside to take a picture of the guy's truck, which had a recall sign on it. I kid you not, this is how the conversation went with this guy.

33 posted on 01/07/2012 5:24:45 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: afraidfortherepublic

These people are lying, he was clear about what he was going to do.


34 posted on 01/07/2012 5:27:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Darth Reardon

LOL! That could be considered fraud.


35 posted on 01/07/2012 5:27:49 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

FUNNY!


36 posted on 01/07/2012 5:31:27 PM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: txhurl

Yes! Now, dues have to be collected by the unionistas and the members don’t have to give them permission. The scary thing is that the unionistas need to get the people’s bank info in order to set up the auto-deduction. Can you imagine giving some guy you barely know your bank account info so he can deduct money out of there on a regular basis?


37 posted on 01/07/2012 5:32:29 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: txhurl

I am an introvert and I try to be sociable to people because I know it’s the right thing to do. This is the thanks I get. LOL!


38 posted on 01/07/2012 5:36:01 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

Couldn’t happen to a nastier bunch of miscreants.

God, I’m glad I live in a right-to-work state.


39 posted on 01/07/2012 5:37:11 PM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: Volunteer
You have summed up quite nicely WTF is wrong with Amerika.

The apparatchiks are entrenched, have got their early retirement, yearly raises, full ride bennies and perks, and have no intention of giving them up.

They have the CPUSA and their allies the Democrat party behind them, weak opposition from the right, and appear to be unstoppable.

If they succeed in Wisconsin it will be the fault of the National GOP and the RNC.

If you are with the government whether it be state local or federal you are on easy street.

The rest of us are suckers who had better shut up, pay for some useless bureaucrats early retirement and salary on top, and like it.

40 posted on 01/07/2012 5:46:24 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: txhurl
The Commie union bosses can keep playing their games in court with their flying monkey lawyers, but the red sons of bitches are going to get what they deserve real soon.

That son of a bitch Warren in US Vs. Brown threw out the provision in Taft Hartley that required union leadership to sign affidavits that they were not communists.

As a result, union leadership is comprised of nothing but.

We are getting ready to hit the CPUSA and the communist American labor movement so hard that they wont have time to crawl back under the rocks they came out from.

No worker in the US should be held hostage to unions period, compulsory union dues are unconstitutional under the first and 14th amendments, and the unions need to be stripped of their ability to steal money from workers paychecks on a national level.

If the workers love unions so much they will be happy to voluntarily send them dues.

Criminalize Government employee unions, blatantly illegal mechanisms for raping taxpayers by bribing leftist politicians with money and votes in exchange for unsustainable compensation and benefits.

There’s nothing patently illegal about a POTUS issuing an executive order immediately ending withholding of union dues nationwide, and ordering the National Labor Relations Board to get a Federal Court Order enforcing the Presidents decision

Lets fight it out in the courts, and lets make it a campaign issue, with the promise to end compulsory withholding of union dues one of the first acts of the new GOP Administration.

Its stupid to allow the left (Communists) to use the same mechanism the IRS uses to fund themselves.

U.S. Supreme Court UNITED STATES v. BROWN, 381 U.S. 437 (1965) 381 U.S. 437

UNITED STATES v. BROWN. CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT. No. 399.

Argued March 29, 1965.

Decided June 7, 1965.

Respondent was convicted under 504 of the Labor-Management Reporting and Disclosure Act of 1959, which makes it a crime for one who belongs to the Communist Party or who has been a member thereof during the preceding five years wilfully to serve as a member of the executive board of a labor organization. The Court of Appeals reversed, holding 504 violative of the First and Fifth Amendments. Held: Section 504 constitutes a bill of attainder and is therefore unconstitutional. Pp. 441-462.

(a) The Bill of Attainder Clause, Art. I, 9, cl. 3, was intended to implement the separation of powers among the three branches of the Government by guarding against the legislative exercise of judicial power. Pp. 441-446.

(b) The Bill of Attainder Clause is to be liberally construed in the light of its purpose to prevent legislative punishment of designated persons or groups. Cummings v. Missouri, 4 Wall. 277; Ex parte Garland, 4 Wall. 333; United States v. Lovett, 328 U.S. 303 . Pp. 447-449.

(c) In designating Communist Party members as those persons who cannot hold union office, Congress has exceeded its Commerce Clause power to enact generally applicable legislation disqualifying from positions affecting interstate commerce persons who may use such positions to cause political strikes. Pp. 449-452.

(d) Section 504 is distinguishable from such conflict-of-interest statutes as 32 of the Banking Act, where Congress was legislating with respect to general characteristics rather than with respect to the members of a specific group. Pp. 453-455.

(e) The designation of Communist Party membership cannot be justified as an alternative, “shorthand” expression for the characteristics which render men likely to incite political strikes. Pp. 455-456.

(f) A statute which inflicts its deprivation upon named or described persons or groups constitutes a bill of attainder whether its aim is retributive, punishing past acts, or preventive, discouraging future conduct. In American Communications Assn. v. Douds, 339 U.S. 382 , where the Court upheld 9 (h) of the National [381 U.S. 437, 438] Labor Relations Act, the predecessor of 504, the Court erroneously assumed that only a law visiting retribution for past acts could constitute a bill of attainder, and misread the statute involved in United States v. Lovett, 328 U.S. 303 , which it sought to distinguish from 9 (h), as being in that category. Pp. 456-460.

(g) The legislative specification of those to whom the enacted sanction is to apply invalidates a provision as a bill of attainder whether the individuals are designated by name as in Lovett or by description as here. Pp. 461-462.

334 F.2d 488, affirmed.

Solicitor General Cox argued the cause for the United States. With him on the brief were Assistant Attorney General Yeagley, Nathan Lewin, Kevin T. Maroney and George B. Searls.

Richard Gladstein argued the cause for respondent. With him on the brief was Norman Leonard.

Briefs of amici curiae, urging affirmance, were filed by Melvin L. Wulf for the American Civil Liberties Union of Northern California et al., and by Victor Rabinowitz and Leonard B. Boudin for the Emergency Civil Liberties Committee.

MR. CHIEF JUSTICE WARREN delivered the opinion of the Court.

In this case we review for the first time a conviction under 504 of the Labor-Management Reporting and Disclosure Act of 1959, which makes it a crime for a member of the Communist Party to serve as an officer or (except in clerical or custodial positions) as an employee of a labor union. 1 Section 504, the purpose of which is to protect [381 U.S. 437, 439] the national economy by minimizing the danger of political strikes, 2 was enacted to replace 9 (h) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended by the Taft-Hartley Act, which conditioned a union’s access to the National Labor Relations Board upon the filing of affidavits by all of the union’s officers attesting that they were not members of or affiliated with the Communist Party. 3 [381 U.S. 437, 440]

Respondent has been a working longshoreman on the San Francisco docks, and an open and avowed Communist, for more than a quarter of a century. He was elected to the Executive Board of Local 10 of the International Longshoremen’s and Warehousemen’s Union for consecutive one-year terms in 1959, 1960, and 1961. On May 24, 1961, respondent was charged in a one-count indictment returned in the Northern District of California with “knowingly and wilfully serv[ing] as a member of an executive board of a labor organization . . . while a member of the Communist Party, in wilful violation of Title 29, United States Code, Section 504.” It was neither charged nor proven that respondent at any time advocated or suggested illegal activity by the union, or proposed a political strike. 4 The jury found respondent guilty, and he was sentenced to six months’ imprisonment. The Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, sitting en banc, reversed and remanded with instructions to set aside the conviction and dismiss the indictment, holding that 504 violates the First and Fifth Amendments to the Constitution. 334 F.2d 488. We granted certiorari, 379 U.S. 899 .

Respondent urges - in addition to the grounds relied on by the court below - that the statute under which he was convicted is a bill of attainder, and therefore violates Art. I, 9, of the Constitution. 5 We agree that 504 is void as a bill of attainder and affirm the decision of the Court of Appeals on that basis. We therefore find it unnecessary to consider the First and Fifth Amendment arguments. [381 U.S. 437, 441]

41 posted on 01/07/2012 5:52:35 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: rabidralph

Bipolar people are interesting because they can give you their life story in three minutes (unlike say Gump, who took 140 minutes and a bunch of flashbacks to get it done), and they seem genuinely appreciative if you listen to it. And then I usually get the hell away.


42 posted on 01/07/2012 5:55:32 PM PST by StAnDeliver (=)
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43 posted on 01/07/2012 5:55:45 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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That’s about how it went but it took him 20 minutes. However, he was very nice and he hugged me twice.


44 posted on 01/07/2012 6:10:01 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Volunteer
"I've noticed something here in Green Bay, every car with a "Recall Walker" sticker is nicer than the one I drive.

I talked to 2 teachers in a bar before Christmas. They told me about the land they had just purchased up in the UP of MI and their new home. They drove a Lexus. They were very angry that Walker wanted them to pay something for their Health Insurance.

The obnoxious lady in Appleton who asked me to sign the Recall Petition and could not understand my "no thank you" response - she drove off in a Saab convertible.

Having another beer after work, protesters against Walker came in to the bar and were ordering $9.00 pints of beer and talking about how they first tried this brand of beer during a trip to Europe.

I work about 60 hours a week. I have never been to Europe. I can't afford a Lexus or a Saab. Then again, I pay for my health insurance and my retirement plan.

I like Gov. Walker. I hope there are more people like me than the greedy public union folks I have met.

Word.

From the keyboards of Freerepublic come great truths . . .

45 posted on 01/07/2012 6:14:28 PM PST by labette ( Humble student of Thinkology)
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To: Volunteer

“I talked to 2 teachers in a bar before Christmas. They told me about the land they had just purchased up in the UP of MI and their new home. They drove a Lexus. They were very angry that Walker wanted them to pay something for their Health Insurance.”

I have always supported teachers and used to buy into the liberal mantra about teachers being underpaid. Now the story is different, and it will be a cold day in hell before I ever listen to a teacher’s complaint again. I’m sorry for the ‘good’ teachers, but liberals always paint their opponents with a broad brush, and turn about is fair play. At this point, I lump every and all public school teachers into the same category of worthless overpaid public union parasites. Surely there are plenty of teachers who don’t deserve to be characterized as such. To them I say, when you open your mouths and fight the parasites in your own unions you will have earned being treated fairly.


46 posted on 01/07/2012 6:27:56 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Volunteer
I work about 60 hours a week. I have never been to Europe. I can't afford a Lexus or a Saab. Then again, I pay for my health insurance and my retirement plan.

The people you are fighting think their world constitutes what is "normal." They are so divorced from the reality of your world it is as if you didn't exist.

47 posted on 01/07/2012 6:56:50 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: rabidralph

Holy cow! He managed all that on one breath? You have my sympathy. No wonder their recall signatures are so funky. They must be signing up all the people who live in their heads.

BTW, your Lt. Governor is kinda hot.


48 posted on 01/07/2012 7:41:37 PM PST by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The Regressives were running their recall campaign even before the vote was tallied! Screw em!


49 posted on 01/07/2012 8:02:07 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: tanuki
I only typed a third of what he said because I couldn't remember it all. But you do the math :-)

Yes, our Lt. Gov. is hot, funny and smart!

50 posted on 01/07/2012 8:06:29 PM PST by rabidralph
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