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Newt Gingrich eyed as main rival - Strategies skip Santorum
bostonherald.com ^ | 1/7/2012 | Katy Jordan

Posted on 01/07/2012 3:29:40 PM PST by TBBT

MANCHESTER N.H. — The Super PAC backing Mitt Romney says it’s keeping its New Hampshire radar on Newt Gingrich — revving up to unleash its newest attack ad on Monday — a move experts say suggests that, for the Romney camp, Rick Santorum’s recent surge poses no political threat.

The Restore Our Future PAC, funded largely by wealthy Romney supporters, has elected to continue the onslaught of attacks on Gingrich only, its spokeswoman told the Herald.

The PAC’s entire nat-ional campaign next week — amid New Hampshire’s primary on Tuesday — will bypass the former Pennsylvania senator entirely, she said, and focus on what it still perceives as its greatest threat, Gingrich.

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As predicted...

While Santorum serves his useful purpose of taking out Newt in S.C., Romney will keeps the gloves off.

1 posted on 01/07/2012 3:29:45 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT
Stick a fork in Newt. He's done.

Four months ago, most of us thought Newt running for President was a bad joke. We were right.

Go Santorum.

2 posted on 01/07/2012 3:32:31 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: TBBT

So here we have a PAC-—in other words Romney supporters violating the 11th. Reagan commandment to support Mitt Romney and lose any votes that the Gingrich voters might have brought to them.

They will be needing those votes if their boy wins.
They won’t get mine.

Dirty tricks politics reflects on those who use them, and Romney is overusing them. Slime always rises to the top I suppose, but Romney cannot win the Presidency by showing what a slimeball he is.

By the way I know he is staying away and letting others do his dirty work for him,but that just makes him look worse IMO.


3 posted on 01/07/2012 3:34:28 PM PST by Venturer
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To: TBBT
While Santorum serves his useful purpose of taking out Newt in S.C., Romney will keeps the gloves off.

LOL. The old "Stalking Horse" theory rears it's ugly head again. Exactly what evidence do you have that Santorum is some sort of Romney plant? Could it be that the Romney camp doesn't have anything to go after Santorum about and that is why they are not doing it?

4 posted on 01/07/2012 3:36:47 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Venturer

“They will be needing those votes if their boy wins.
They won’t get mine.”

Then what do they stand to lose by continuing?


5 posted on 01/07/2012 3:37:05 PM PST by COgamer
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To: bwc2221
Yeah, we'll see that genius Santorum at the debate tonight.

He makes watching paint dry seem like a 14 car crash at the Indy 500.

6 posted on 01/07/2012 3:38:07 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: TBBT; All
IMHO Newt,even with all his baggage and warts,remains our best hope of keeping Romney out.

Eventually if Santorum and Paul don't get out they will suck up enough valuable votes to keep Newt from winning. Romney has such good organization and so much dough he's formidable. Just check any conservative or near conservative website. He's bought everything. He knows what he is doing,scary.

7 posted on 01/07/2012 3:38:17 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Venturer

Newt ought to challenge him to a duel.


8 posted on 01/07/2012 3:40:19 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Rome2000

Tonight’s debate: wait until someone asks Santorum about his proposal to immediately cut Social Security benefits. Let the squirming begin!


9 posted on 01/07/2012 3:40:36 PM PST by varina davis (Elect a real American patriot in 2012 -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: TBBT; jimrob; BlackElk

You know, on every single thread all you can do is tear down other candidates instead of building up your own. You seem more satisfied with being able to assign blame if your guy doesn’t win.

Some time ago, JimRob requested that we cut that out. JimRob finds Newt and the Ricks all acceptable. You will not find a thread from me bashing any of them. Your contributions as of late have been repetitive and non-constructive.

In short ... cut the crap.


10 posted on 01/07/2012 3:41:34 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Mo Udall of 2012.)
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To: rodguy911
I agree...Newt has the horsepower between the ears to squash the Commie usurper.
11 posted on 01/07/2012 3:41:44 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: rodguy911

“IMHO Newt,even with all his baggage and warts,remains our best hope of keeping Romney out.”

I wholeheartedly agree with that.


12 posted on 01/07/2012 3:42:14 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Venturer
Good post.

Problem is Romney obviously learned from zero and the regime.

He saw that all zero does is run for office,even while "in office". The regime has a huge staff just creating chaos all the time with every single move they make political.If you want to go up against a corrupt machine like that you better know who the "heck" they are.He obviously does.

13 posted on 01/07/2012 3:42:26 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: TBBT

Good. While Newt and Mitt slap fight, Santorum can sneak up on ‘em.


14 posted on 01/07/2012 3:43:35 PM PST by Grunthor (At least he is better than Obama! Is NOT a rallying cry!)
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To: TBBT

ANTI-SANTORUM F.U.D.

Go Rick! :D

15 posted on 01/07/2012 3:43:54 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: bwc2221

Rave on——Santorum can’t get elected over Obama-—he even lost in Pa when a sitting Senator-—I am with him on many issues but he does not have the ‘nastiness’ that is necessary to take on the Rats-—


16 posted on 01/07/2012 3:44:25 PM PST by cmomm44
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To: rightwingextremist1776

He does. But, just like last time with the huckster blocking for Mcqueeg if it happens again Newt won’t have a prayer.


17 posted on 01/07/2012 3:44:47 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: bwc2221

Please tell me, did Santorum filibuster a right-to-work bill and also vote to retain the 30’s era Davis-Bacon Act, AKA “prevailing wage” bill?


18 posted on 01/07/2012 3:47:21 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: TBBT
Gingrich-Santorum
 
or
 
Santorum-Gingrich

19 posted on 01/07/2012 3:47:21 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Parley Baer
Thanks.

Trouble is to truly take this stuff seriously he should have started the day after zero was sworn in.

IT takes years to get everything that has to be done in order. Without a huge well financed, well funded machine,super organized attack squad, uphill does not begin to describe the plight.

Newt is brilliant but does not always play the right card at the right time.

20 posted on 01/07/2012 3:48:11 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Rome2000
Newt ought to challenge him to a duel.

He did....a one on one debate. Romney wouldn't do it. He's a slimy chicken.

21 posted on 01/07/2012 3:49:09 PM PST by CAluvdubya (My preferred taglines are not in the running...)
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To: Venturer
So here we have a PAC-—in other words Romney supporters violating the 11th. Reagan commandment to support Mitt Romney and lose any votes that the Gingrich voters might have brought to them.

Romney backers are not Republicans, they are liberals with an (R) next to their name. The only difference between them and liberals with a (D) next to their name is how fast they want to take us down the road to socialism.
22 posted on 01/07/2012 4:08:20 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: bwc2221

—Rick Santorum called Friday for immediate cuts to Social Security benefits—

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2829774/posts

Santorum doesn’t have a chance.... it is Santorum that is done.

GO NEWT GO........


23 posted on 01/07/2012 4:13:51 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: Venturer

Mitt has irritated me immensely with his cutsie-cutsie super-PAC shenanigans.

Does he really think that anyone is fooled by his oh-so-innocent “Hey, it’s not me, it’s the PAC” routine?

He may think he is being clever, but (to me anyhow) it just shows a low level of cunning, a callous disregard for the spirit of the relevant laws, and a contemptuous disdain for the intelligence of the voters.

He’s a dork.


24 posted on 01/07/2012 4:18:42 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: rodguy911

Newt is our last chance. If Newt is taken out, it’s over and Obama wins.


25 posted on 01/07/2012 4:19:05 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: TBBT

This is as expected. Whoever let the cat out of the bag gave Newt the opportunity to preempt the attacks tonight and tomorrow in the debates. Think what Iowa’s results would have been if the debate was the next Tuesday after Dec. 17 instead of 3 weeks later, allowing all that time for Restore Our Future to carpet bomb Newt with all that bilge.


26 posted on 01/07/2012 4:20:01 PM PST by untwist
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To: Gator113

Santorum not having a real good week with the “black people” comment, the Social Security deal, and two debates this weekend. I think Newt will be back in second by a comfortable margin by the time we get to FL.


27 posted on 01/07/2012 4:21:36 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: TBBT

I’ve given lots of thought to this issue and unfortunately do believe Newt is the best choice.


28 posted on 01/07/2012 4:24:14 PM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: TBBT

Everyone with half a brain who doesn’t have blinders on knows that Gingrich is the only threat to Romney.

I know the Santorum people don’t want to believe that, but that’s the facts.

It’s either Romney or Gingrich. Supporting anyone else is handing the nomination to Romney.


29 posted on 01/07/2012 4:26:08 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: cmomm44
“Rave on——Santorum can’t get elected over Obama-—”

You think Newt can? Newt is a walking time bomb just waiting to implode.

30 posted on 01/07/2012 4:27:20 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Oh well then, if you say so.

Let’s just skip this primary thing then.

It’s so inconvenient.


31 posted on 01/07/2012 4:30:44 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Everyone with half a brain who doesn’t have blinders on knows that Gingrich is the only threat to Romney.

Jim Robinson sure figured it out early in the process, along with Thomas Sowell, Michael Reagan, and others. Even with evidence though, many will still deny it.

32 posted on 01/07/2012 4:31:59 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Gator113
One of the greatest problems we face is illegal immigration. It costs hundreds of billions annually and will destroy the fabric of our country.

As Roy Beck of Numbers USA points out, Gingrich is one of the worst, if not the worst Republican, on the issue of illegal immigration. Newt's plan is nothing more than a stealth amnesty. Any illegal with an IQ over 25 can figure a way to secure amnesty between Newt's “establishing roots,” belonging to a church or a WWII-type neighborhood board composed of bleeding-heart liberals.

33 posted on 01/07/2012 4:34:18 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: TBBT

The fact that RINO commentators are coming out of the woodwork for Santorum convinces me that he’s not perceived as a threat to either Romney or Obama. He’s a social conservative, I’m sure he’s a nice if somewhat dull guy, he has a lovely family...but he’s not up to taking on Obama.


34 posted on 01/07/2012 4:37:36 PM PST by livius
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To: ez

From your lips to God’s ears.


35 posted on 01/07/2012 4:38:06 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: Gator113
I sort of agree.However, I have a daughter and son-in-law that mean everything to me so I cant give up regardless of elections.

IF Romney gets in it means a doubled effort to show him the way.

We'd be doing it for Newt as well just not as much.

Truth is,and many thanks to the tea party, we are fast becoming a Conservative party that cannot be ignored anymore.

Even a Romney presidency will have to pay homage to us. I hate the thought of him getting in but if it happens believe me we will deal with it. The stakes are too high not to.

36 posted on 01/07/2012 4:50:51 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“It’s either Romney or Gingrich. Supporting anyone else is handing the nomination to Romney.”

AND, handing it to Romney is the same as handing it to Obama.

GO NEWT GO.....


37 posted on 01/07/2012 4:51:47 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: Gator113

quote “AND, handing it to Romney is the same as handing it to Obama.”

bingo!


38 posted on 01/07/2012 4:53:02 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: TBBT
Romney's Political surrogate shares Romney's thought that he can destroy Santorum in easy manner, but only AFTER he attempts to get Newt out of the way. The following Iowa article exposes Romney's strategy. Any so called conservative who backs Romney is DISGUSTING for Conservatives and Conservatism.

Here is a quote from David Polyansky, a political strategist who helped Huckabee get elected and then worked to help Bachman with her Straw Poll and used Bachman to bash Newt. David Polyansky is a RINO and Conservatives are sick and tired of the media letting RINO's represent us in articles and on television. Perfect example: Ann Coulter is a RINO at best, she is sleeping with a Liberal hack, which means she is a Christian in name only and is attempting to represent herself as a voice for Conservatives. Ann needs to SHUT IT. She does NOT represent Conservatives.

David Polyansky, initially states's the POLITICAL FORTUNE of Santorum’s recent advance (Romney's political fortune). 2nd quote, he praises a CNN poll for convincing Iowa voters to vote for Santorum. 3rd quote he says Santorum and Pual can easily be taken out in South Carolina and Florida and calls both Newt and Perry dangerous for Romney in South Carolina and Florida.

It looks as if is secretly working for Romney in order to knock the most Conservative and nationally popular candidates out of the race early. All of his quotes in this article point to Romney winning as long as Santorum and Paul stay in longer than dangerous Newt and Perry. Looks like he is in it for Romney.

1st Quote:
“Few saw this bombshell coming,” GOP strategist David Polyansky said. “In an already unpredictable race this is another stunning turn of political fortune.”

2nd Quote:
“It is kind of interesting to see that, by pure luck and timing, in what many have dubbed the ‘Fox Primary,’ that it might actually be CNN as the network that had the biggest impact and influence on the Iowa caucus,” Polyansky said. (this romney surrogate which attempts to pose as a uncommitted republican analyst, is doing a happy dance that CNN posted a poll that put Santorum as a lead candidate in order to split the Conservative Vote.

3rd Quote (money quote - he's in it for Romney
Where Romney places in the caucuses may prove less important than where his rivals land, Polyansky said. Santorum and Paul would be much easier to dispose of in South Carolina and Florida than the more dangerous Perry and Gingrich, he said.

http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/31/romney-leads-paul-in-new-des-moines-register-iowa-poll-santorum-surging/

39 posted on 01/07/2012 4:55:14 PM PST by show
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To: TBBT
Romney's Political surrogate shares Romney's thought that he can destroy Santorum in easy manner, but only AFTER he attempts to get Newt out of the way. The following Iowa article exposes Romney's strategy. Any so called conservative who backs Romney is DISGUSTING for Conservatives and Conservatism.

Here is a quote from David Polyansky, a political strategist who helped Huckabee get elected and then worked to help Bachman with her Straw Poll and used Bachman to bash Newt. David Polyansky is a RINO and Conservatives are sick and tired of the media letting RINO's represent us in articles and on television. Perfect example: Ann Coulter is a RINO at best, she is sleeping with a Liberal hack, which means she is a Christian in name only and is attempting to represent herself as a voice for Conservatives. Ann needs to SHUT IT. She does NOT represent Conservatives.

David Polyansky, initially states's the POLITICAL FORTUNE of Santorum’s recent advance (Romney's political fortune). 2nd quote, he praises a CNN poll for convincing Iowa voters to vote for Santorum. 3rd quote he says Santorum and Pual can easily be taken out in South Carolina and Florida and calls both Newt and Perry dangerous for Romney in South Carolina and Florida.

It looks as if is secretly working for Romney in order to knock the most Conservative and nationally popular candidates out of the race early. All of his quotes in this article point to Romney winning as long as Santorum and Paul stay in longer than dangerous Newt and Perry. Looks like he is in it for Romney.

1st Quote:
“Few saw this bombshell coming,” GOP strategist David Polyansky said. “In an already unpredictable race this is another stunning turn of political fortune.”

2nd Quote:
“It is kind of interesting to see that, by pure luck and timing, in what many have dubbed the ‘Fox Primary,’ that it might actually be CNN as the network that had the biggest impact and influence on the Iowa caucus,” Polyansky said. (this romney surrogate which attempts to pose as a uncommitted republican analyst, is doing a happy dance that CNN posted a poll that put Santorum as a lead candidate in order to split the Conservative Vote.

3rd Quote (money quote - he's in it for Romney
Where Romney places in the caucuses may prove less important than where his rivals land, Polyansky said. Santorum and Paul would be much easier to dispose of in South Carolina and Florida than the more dangerous Perry and Gingrich, he said.

http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/31/romney-leads-paul-in-new-des-moines-register-iowa-poll-santorum-surging/

40 posted on 01/07/2012 4:55:20 PM PST by show
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To: TBBT

Santorum and Gingrich see that their primary opponent is Obama.

Romney has always seen conservatives as his real enemy, and he and his minions have trashed everyone they see as a threat.

Romney is supported by the GOP’s professional politicals, which means that the GOP establishment sees conservatives as the enemy too. This is a civil war between the GOP membership and its parasitical party leadership class.


41 posted on 01/07/2012 4:55:45 PM PST by marron
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To: marron
And notice LIBERAL Ron Paul is ANTI-Conservative.

Liberal Ron Paul and his surrogates NEVER bash ZERO.

Ron Paul voters are Democrat voters in disguise.

Ron Paul Voters HATE Conservatives.

Why is Ron Paul even on the stage? Ron Paul is obviously a Undercover Democrat. Ron Paul is DISGUSTING. Watch the debates.... Ron Paul NEVER bashes ZERO or ROMNEY. Nuff said. Ron Paul belongs on the Democrat ticket. RON Paul is a disgrace and that the media gives him a pass to pose as a Conservative is pure PROPOGANDA..

42 posted on 01/07/2012 5:04:02 PM PST by show
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To: bwc2221
Newt's plan is nothing more than a stealth amnesty. Any illegal with an IQ over 25 can figure a way to secure amnesty between Newt's “establishing roots,” belonging to a church or a WWII-type neighborhood board composed of bleeding-heart liberals.

Actually, this is true. I like Newt and am supporting him. Or better said, he and Santorum are my two favorites left in the race.

And I would love to see Gingrich take on Obama, and overall I think he'll make a very good president (as will Santorum).

But you are right about his immigration stance, and if he is elected we will have our hands full keeping him on the straight and narrow. The same, in a slightly different way, would be true of any of the Repubs left in the race, whatever they say in the campaign. But as you say, Gingrich's plan has a loophole you could drive a milllion trucks through.

43 posted on 01/07/2012 5:04:40 PM PST by marron
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To: show

I agree with you on Ron Paul.


44 posted on 01/07/2012 5:09:10 PM PST by marron
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To: rodguy911

Rodguy, I have a son and daughter. They have given me 8 grandchildren. I have a wonderful wife I have been with for over 40 years. I am a vet and the from a long line of patriots. I also love my dog, my toys, my way of life and my 60 birds. ;>)

At this moment in our history, I can not think of anything much worse than Obama in office for another 4 years.

However, I simply can not and will not support baby killing Romney, for more reasons than I care to list.

Frankly, it’s all a moot point if Romney does get the nomination, because he will NOT win against Obama. He would put up a better fight than Santorum and not be eaten as quickly, but Obama, regardless of his deplorable record, remains a very capable fighter, with as much as a billion bucks in his war chest.

In other words, the very second that Romney wins the nomination, Obama wins the election.

If believe that if Newt fails to get the nomination, it’s over. I would love to be wrong.


45 posted on 01/07/2012 5:17:03 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: bwc2221

I don’t disagree with much of what you say on immigration, but considering all of those left at the table, Newt remains our best option for the presidency.


46 posted on 01/07/2012 5:24:57 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: TBBT
a move experts say suggests that, for the Romney camp, Rick Santorum’s recent surge poses no political threat.

Yeah, right.

Some other possible explanations, from the point-of-view of the Romney campaign:

1. Newt is nastier and angrier than Santorum. A good offense is the best defense.

2. Newt is on the way down, it makes political sense to finish him off early.

3. Santorum is not nearly as vulnerable to negative advertising as Newt is. The ads against Newt just write themselves. In fact, no words are needed; just show pictures (Newt with Pelosi, Newt with Sharpton, Newt in front of Freddie Mac, etc.).

4. Newt has already announced that he is going to attack Romney. Therefore, he should be the focus of a preemptive attack or counterattack.

Those are some of the strategies the Romney people may be pursuing. Attributing the focus on Newt to "thinking Santorum is not a threat" may completely miss the mark.

47 posted on 01/07/2012 5:31:50 PM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: Gator113

These Fake commentators acting as if they represent the Conservative party need to be called out on Romney’s lack of support by Conservatives.

At a very minimum, Conservatives represent 25% percent of the voting population. Conservatives WILL NOT vote for Romney. The media needs to get in their face about acting as if Romney is electable when it is a false statement. Conservatives will VOTE against Romeny to show him he we are Anti-Romney. IN the Millions. We don’t care about RINO’s. RINO’s like Romney and Coulter need to shut it. Conservatives don’t like you. Deal with it and label yourself as a Liberal which you are.


48 posted on 01/07/2012 5:32:54 PM PST by show
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To: Venturer

Good grief, do you honestly think Newt Gingrich has not attacked Romney?


49 posted on 01/07/2012 5:33:09 PM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: Rome2000

Newt ought to challenge him to a duel.


Pay per view. And retire the national debt!


50 posted on 01/07/2012 5:38:15 PM PST by Yaelle
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