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Pelosi Fires Back at Gingrich
Wall Street Journal ^

Posted on 01/08/2012 8:52:14 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Pelosi Fires Back at Gingrich

By Nell Henderson

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi fired back at fellow former Speaker Newt Gingrich Sunday morning for his disavowal of a TV ad calling for action on climate change that the pair filmed together.

Mr. Gingrich, chasing the Republican presidential nomination, has called the 2008 ad “probably the dumbest single thing I’ve done in recent years.”

Ms. Pelosi, of California, asked about the comments on CNN’s State of the Union, had a tart riposte: “He has been fined $300,000 dollars by the ethics committee, you’d think he’d consider that a big mistake.”

CNN Reporter Candy Crowley said after Ms. Pelosi’s comments that Mr. Gingrich has characterized the $300,000 payment as a reimbursement ordered by the House Ethics Committee, not a fine.

In 1997, Mr Gingrich was reprimanded in a 395-28 vote and ordered to pay the money for allowing a tax-exempt organization to be used for political purposes, as well as for misleading the Ethics Committee.

“Since you brought up my name in association with him as the dumbest thing he ever did, I think there’s plenty of stiff competition for that honor, as far as his activities go,” Ms. Pelosi told Ms. Crowley.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bogus; embrace; ethics; extend; extinguish; gingrich; nancypelosi; newt; newtgingrich; pelosi; rosaparks

1 posted on 01/08/2012 8:52:18 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Pelosi needs to try to get over herself. Contrary to what she believes, the world does not revolve around her.


2 posted on 01/08/2012 8:55:36 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed!!!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Nancy tangling horns with Mr Gingrich. This could be very educational.


3 posted on 01/08/2012 8:56:28 AM PST by Leep
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To: Sub-Driver

Something tells me that RAT is going to “leak” Newts Ethics Investigation Files, if he becomes the nominee. What a witch.


4 posted on 01/08/2012 8:58:02 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Sub-Driver

Pelosi, Is *****/@@@@/#####....she “no room” to bitch.


5 posted on 01/08/2012 8:58:18 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, $pend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: Sub-Driver

Newt was cleared by the IRS on the very same charges,making the ethics complaint strictly political


6 posted on 01/08/2012 8:59:04 AM PST by golfisnr1
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To: Sub-Driver

Newt was cleared by the IRS on the very same charges,making the ethics complaint strictly political


7 posted on 01/08/2012 8:59:13 AM PST by golfisnr1
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To: Sub-Driver
“Since you brought up my name in association with him as the dumbest thing he ever did, I think there’s plenty of stiff competition for that honor, as far as his activities go,”

She's right about that.

But against stiff competition, that "global warming" event on the couch is the definite winner.

8 posted on 01/08/2012 9:00:38 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I couldn’t imagine an enemy I would rather have, except Obama. Newt made a mistake sitting down with Nancy, but he never bought into the Pelosi / Obama Cap and Trade model. The leftist model was based on huge penalties and bankrupting localities with taxes if they do not move on the federal govt’s demands. Gingrich favored a business incentive, tax-break driven model for companies that invest in green energy.

He was snookered by the left who wanted to use him for leverage to push their wild plans. He agreed in principle to invest in alternative energy. He never was in line with Pelosi’s model for strong-handed leftist coercion. This is what has not been explained properly.


9 posted on 01/08/2012 9:02:12 AM PST by untwist
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To: Sub-Driver
". . . ordered to pay the money for allowing a tax-exempt organization to be used for political purposes, as well as for misleading the Ethics Committee."

Only another MSM half-truth. He was not ordered to pay the money "for allowing a tax-exempt organization to be used for political purposes." He was, in fact, absolved of any wrong doing whatsoever in those charges. He paid that money solely because one of the documents (and only one) that his counsel provided to the committee contained some incorrect and misleading information and his signature was on that paper.

He was never found to be guilty for any wrong doing either by the House Ethics Committee or the IRS, who also investigated this matter.
10 posted on 01/08/2012 9:02:26 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Leep

“Nancy tangling horns with Mr Gingrich. This could be very educational.”

I can just imagine the dirt that Newt knows on Pelosi! It would be popcorn time for sure.


11 posted on 01/08/2012 9:04:43 AM PST by ryderann
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To: tennmountainman
Something tells me that RAT is going to “leak” Newts Ethics Investigation Files, if he becomes the nominee. What a witch.

The ethics charges have all been debunked. if she does, it may have some unintended consequences for the Dims rather than hurting Newt. Newt already warned media outlets against using the same crapola in Romney's ads because they have been proven false and he intimated legal action for wilfully airing lies. Is anyone aware if the ads have aired anywhere?

12 posted on 01/08/2012 9:05:34 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Sub-Driver

One word: Visa IPO

Pelosi cashed in on that one.


13 posted on 01/08/2012 9:06:17 AM PST by y6162
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14 posted on 01/08/2012 9:12:24 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Sub-Driver

I hope this will be a lesson to any republican that thinks about cooperating with this vile woman ever again.

Nothing good can ever come from fraternizing with the enemy.


15 posted on 01/08/2012 9:20:48 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Sub-Driver

Well I guess it is nice to see one of Newts buddies coming to his defense and trying to shore up his campaign.


16 posted on 01/08/2012 9:23:58 AM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: untwist
He was snookered by the left who wanted to use him for leverage to push their wild plans. He agreed in principle to invest in alternative energy.

But Newt is so smart, this is impossible, he must agree with Pelosi completely, he's just sorry he got caught.

Or he's so dumb that anyone can wrap his ego around their little finger, and get him to do whatever they want.

Yep, this is the guy we want for President.

17 posted on 01/08/2012 9:28:48 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Sub-Driver

“’Since you brought up my name in association with him as the dumbest thing he ever did, I think there’s plenty of stiff competition for that honor, as far as his activities go,’ Ms. Pelosi told Ms. Crowley.”

Pelosi chastising Gingrich for doing something dumb? Wow...just wow. So her telling artists that I (aka “taxpayer”) will pay for their health care so they can continue being artists is not dumb? How about them getting a job to pay their own health costs and doing their artwork on off hours until it pays enough to sustain them?


18 posted on 01/08/2012 9:47:46 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is a much better fitness test than a debate.

I have nothing but contempt and as close as I allow myself to get to pure hatred for that witch and I relish the possibility of a battle between her an Gingrich.

"Let's get ready to rumble....!"

19 posted on 01/08/2012 9:50:01 AM PST by GBA (Natural Born American)
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To: Sub-Driver

Gosh....who’s Nancy picking in the games today? Me personally, I can’t get enough of her comments. I want to know her take on absolutely everything. Nancy, please enlighten us on whether you like white or whole wheat bread! The world must know your opinion on setting the height of a lawnmower! How can we possibly survive if we don’t know your feelings on pudding! Tapioca or butterscotch? It’s like we’re stuck in time without her guidance! You’re dumber than donuts, but we must hear from you!!!!!


20 posted on 01/08/2012 9:53:21 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Sub-Driver

All forces of the Establishment on the Left AND the Right are allied against Newt. Time for the people to REJECT the establishment and put Newton Leroy Churchhill in the White House.


21 posted on 01/08/2012 9:56:26 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: ez

Nancy Pelosio who called the whole CIA liars on a regular basis.


22 posted on 01/08/2012 10:24:42 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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To: Sub-Driver

WSJ in the tank for Romney.


23 posted on 01/08/2012 10:25:27 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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To: Navy Patriot

Your point makes no sense. Santorum destroyed his career in the senate because he stood by Arlen Spector when the conservatives begged him to support Pat Toomey. He got snookered and made deals with liberals. Romney made it clear he was a moderate, even liberal in his earlier days. He voted for Paul Tsongas. He did put liberal judges on the Mass. high courts because he had to make deals with liberals. We see his whole past clearing up before us.

I know Newt’s record as Speaker and Minority Whip back in Reagan’s day. It’s there clear as day. I can also trace what happened relative to the clean air initiative and what he was looking for and what he did when the liberals pushed their plan. It’s all in the record. He made a good faith effort to work together with the liberals and even sit with Pelosi but he when the truth came out of what they were pushing he made no deal. He got snookered to sit down with her but that was as far as it went. Can you say the same for Romney and Santorum?

I can see you don’t want Newt, but you might be better off looking at his entire record in governance and as a private citizen in comparison to the other candidates before trashing him.


24 posted on 01/08/2012 11:17:19 AM PST by untwist
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To: Sub-Driver

BTTT


25 posted on 01/08/2012 3:59:24 PM PST by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: untwist
Your point makes no sense. Santorum.... got snookered, Romney got snookered, Perry got snookered, Huntsman got snookered so badly he now speaks Chinese, Huckabee got snookered, Bush got snookered, the other Bush got snookered.....

Yeah, all true, but my point still makes sense, and I didn't say any other candidate was better, you assumed that.

However, Newt is probably the brightest of 'em all, and has less excuse than any.

I know Newt’s record as Speaker and Minority Whip back in Reagan’s day.

As do I.

I can see you don’t want Newt, but you might be better off looking at his entire record in governance and as a private citizen in comparison to the other candidates before trashing him.

It's not that I don't want Newt, he's got all the tools and refuses to use 'em properly, that really fries me.

He made a good faith effort to work together with the liberals and even sit with Pelosi but he when the truth came out...

See, here's the problem, the truth came out about the same time the Marxist political daughter from the Rat Machine in Baltimore came out West, and ya don't make good faith efforts with the worst of the worst Rats, ya make good faith prosecutions. Newt should know that. His excellent Reagan record is going in the wrong direction.

Lastly I did not say any of the generic RINO field was better or even as good as Newt, or that I would not vote for him.

I have predicted that he would not become President, and I have said I would vote for Bachman, and never for Romney, but that is all.

26 posted on 01/08/2012 5:55:01 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: untwist; Navy Patriot; Sudetenland; JohnBrowdie; ez; tennmountainman; All
The fact itself that Democrats filed 84 (!) bogus ethics complaints against a Speaker over the course of less than 4 years shows that it was an witch hunt on unprecedented scale, yet the Republicans, as usual, either shied away from Gingrich instead of attacking Democrats, or were happy to let Dems do their dirty work because they cared more about their own power or became happy with status quo. The sheer number of complaints tells you that it was a witch hunt of enormous proportions.

"If you have no enemies, you are not important enough to have made any" - Alexandre Dumas

Can you imagine political hue and cry by Democrats if just one ethics complaint were filed against Nancy Pelosi or other Democratic leader? Yet Republicans stood by or even joined Dems in cheering on the witch hunt. Despite all that he was cleared on 83 of them(!) and eventually on the last one, and only had to settle for "compensation of expenses" due to a mistake made by a junior level lawyer in filing one single document that could easily have been a typo.

Can you imagine political hue and cry if President Bush put Speaker Nancy Pelosi in the back of the plane on their way someplace and she would complain about it? Nancy would become new "white Catholic Rosa Parks" and Bush would be savaged. The press, Democrats would scream about indignity and disrespect and many Republicans would join them. Yet when Newt described his "treatment" at the back of the Clinton's plane and the press says he was "whining" and "complaining like a child"... and guess what, instead of screaming about Clinton's lack of minimum of dignity and respect, elite Republicans happily joined the Democrats in denouncing Newt.

When Newt decided that his job in implementing Contract with America was pretty much finished and it would be detrimental to the party if he stayed and kept being a lightning rod for Democrats, with little support from fellow Republicans, he decided it would be better to resign, and get his personal life in order by finally divorcing his second wife (from whom he was legally separated since 1987) and marrying Callista who he's been dating since 1993 (not quite as exciting as "chasing interns" meme, but his first wife was not "served divorce papers while dying of cancer in the hospital" either).

What did Speaker Hastert do with 8 years of Republicans in power in Congress, 6 of them along Republican President Bush, compared to 4 years of Gingrich with the Democratic President and Senators like John McCain and Bob Dole standing in his way because they saw him as competitor for Presidency?

Newt keeps trying to co-opt the "green movement" so it would become easier to promote more of real "alternative" sources of energy (like nuclear) instead of cap-and-trade and "carbon taxes." Co-opt the "green" movement and propose investing in cheaper and cleaner domestic sources of energy, contrast it with the pain of expense, scarcity and loss of mobility and freedom of Gore / Pelosi / Kerry liberal "solutions" and then the real goals of phony "green environmentalists" - money from taxes and expensive wind/solar energy - are gone ... and with the money, a movement itself will fail or join Republicans. Defunding by co-opting (instead of "cooperating" with them in their goals) was the real goal of Newt getting into the arena, and it's much better way of removing the army from the "green generals" than keep trying to fight it on the basis of "our science vs your science; my 20,000 scientists vs your 40,000 scientists".

This is very similar to Embrace, Extend, Extinguish strategy most famously used recently by Microsoft, it's an extension of:
"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" - Sun Tzu
"Never hate your enemies, it affects you judgment" - 'Michael Corleone'

And here's what really happened re the ad with Pelosi, it was all down to semantics. From Gingrich Accepting Gore Invite Lands on Love Seat With Pelosi - BL, by Julie Hirschfeld Davis, 2011 December 01

Hardly something to be worked up over.

27 posted on 01/09/2012 11:16:07 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

#27 reads like a list of excuses. It certainly is not a list of post Contract With America successes.


28 posted on 01/09/2012 12:08:12 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Navy Patriot
Defending himself or someone else against bogus attacks is not a "list of excuses," it's "setting the facts straight."

As for post-Contract With America successes, please read
Gingrich's Secret Weapon: Newt Inc. - WSJ, by Neil King Jr. and Patrick O'Connor, 2011 May 09

FTA:

Pretty good credentials, in my opinion. What did Romney-Perry-Santorum-Bachmann-Huntsman or other "talkers" do for conservative causes and organizations during that post-Contract period that was of any tangible value?

29 posted on 01/09/2012 12:58:23 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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