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The 2013 Fusion vs. the "Volt" ( Vanity )
Autoblog ^ | 01/08/2012 | Taildragger

Posted on 01/08/2012 10:04:38 AM PST by taildragger

The Link above is for the photos of the car leaked from a Czech Blog, but is their a bigger story?

Look at this car compared to the Volt, obviously easier on the eyes, but will it spark a bigger debate?

I.E., the free-market approach of product improvement vs the Governments envolvement in GM and lack of market acceptance of the Volt.

What we know from the web.

* It will use the very good handling "Ford Mondeo" Chassis ( possibly new or upgraded )
* It will probably be 4 or 5 star crash rated, seems to be Fords redesign mantra
* It will probably get 10 to 20% better fuel economy, again, what they have achieved in their redesigns. The green car blogs are rumoring 48 mpg in the city for the Hybrid.
* As these pictures note, it has the DNA of the "EVOS" Show-car.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
KEYWORDS: automobiles; fusion; gm; volt

1 posted on 01/08/2012 10:04:40 AM PST by taildragger
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To: taildragger
Call me old fashioned however IMO this would make a MUCH better vehicle all around.

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2 posted on 01/08/2012 10:13:59 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: taildragger

The timing is perfect for me. My lease is up in fall 2012, right when the 2013 Fusion will be out. Looks like a winner.


3 posted on 01/08/2012 10:18:43 AM PST by Joann37
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To: taildragger

I don’t like the hood


4 posted on 01/08/2012 10:24:53 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: EGPWS

Had a neighbor as a kid that had the Charger variant, 440 I think, white with blue stripes but he used to troll slowly threw the neighborhood with that muscle rumble, might have been an automatic, more of a luxury type of guy not a hot rodder. Never got on it, I wonder where it is today...


5 posted on 01/08/2012 10:25:42 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger

I like it. It does look like an Aston Martin. I still won’t buy anything made by UAW thugs, though.


6 posted on 01/08/2012 10:29:28 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

Maybe pick you battles? All comrades are not equal? Ford UAW rank and file ( this is just my guess ) would not trade their places or jobs with a GM-er or Fiat/Chrysler worker for all the tea in China, and are they more reason-able...


7 posted on 01/08/2012 10:32:08 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger
"Look at this car compared to the Volt, obviously easier on the eyes, but will it spark a bigger debate?"

There's been a lot of heated discussion about this - and I don't want to fan the flames - but ultimately, I think the Volt is just a flash in the pan. I mean, sure, where there's smoke there may be fire, but the Volt just strikes me as something for the ash-heap of history.

8 posted on 01/08/2012 10:39:19 AM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: EGPWS

At one time, I had an old mopar. A big ole late 60s chrysler newport 2door hardtop(similar to a fury) with a hopped up 440 and a dana limited slip rear end. Mine had 4 wheel drum brakes that didn’t work in the rain, and an AM radio that didn’t get reception when the sky was cloudy. The front suspension was such that if you installed radial tires, the car was virtually uncontrollable on uneven pavement. The heater got hot enough to cause blisters on your feet. I could drive it in below zero temps with the windows down and stay warm. It had a 3 speed automatic and would do 60MPH in first gear. If I drove veeery carefully, I got 8MPG, but under 5MPG if I drove with a lead foot.


9 posted on 01/08/2012 10:41:02 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: taildragger
It has a face. I'm tired of cars with faces.


10 posted on 01/08/2012 10:41:24 AM PST by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: Flag_This
I mean, sure, where there's smoke there may be fire,

I don't think there was ever really any smoke. It was all just manufactured vapor.

11 posted on 01/08/2012 10:45:44 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: taildragger

I would like to see the following results:
Volt vs. a 74 Pinto (working or not)
Volt vs the Hugo(working or not)
Volt vs 1899 Baker Electric (probably still works)


12 posted on 01/08/2012 10:51:30 AM PST by Leep
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To: FReepaholic; tacticalogic; All

It looks like a happy cartoon shark, even the color is right. Regarding the burning battery, I heard a report saying that the battery did not develop its problem for days after the “crash”. Hardly a major danger.


13 posted on 01/08/2012 10:56:00 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
I heard a report saying that the battery did not develop its problem for days after the “crash”. Hardly a major danger.

I'd think that might make it more dangerous. Days after a crash, it's likely to have been towed somewhere, and be stored indoors, or in close proximity to other cars and/or buildings. If it catches fire there it's more likely to take a lot of other stuff with it.

14 posted on 01/08/2012 11:00:57 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: taildragger
Having cut ties to Mazda it looks to me like Ford is migrating the Mexican-built, Mazda-based Fusion over to the Volvo-based Euro mid-sized platform...prior to eventually going to a Ford designed platform which will eliminate the remaining Volvo heritage.
15 posted on 01/08/2012 11:36:01 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Java4Jay
“I don’t like the hood”

IIRC, the newly enforced Euro safety regs require a vehicle crumple zone on the hood between the hood and the hard engine components so that when a pedestrian is hit hard in the thighs and their head is then rotated downwards onto the hood with force there is a nice soft crumply hood for them to splat onto.

All new Euro designs and all US and Japanese models that are also sold in Europe have had to be re-designed with this high-hood look...with the striations help with the controlled crushing, I suspect.

16 posted on 01/08/2012 11:42:14 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: blueunicorn6
“It does look like an Aston Martin. I still won’t buy anything made by UAW thugs, though.”

Yes, they stole some design cues from recently sold Aston Martin. Legal action coming from Aston Martin to defend design rights?

The current Focus is a Mazda-based platform assembled in Mexico with no UAW input...and I expect the next Volvo-based platform to be assembled there as well to allow the car to be sold at a profit in the US.

17 posted on 01/08/2012 11:46:01 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: EGPWS

Yup, that is how my 71 Duster will look when I paint it. I have a stroked 360 (408) and get 20+ MPG. Lots of fun and fast!


18 posted on 01/08/2012 11:49:23 AM PST by refermech
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To: refermech
Yup, that is how my 71 Duster will look when I paint it. I have a stroked 360 (408) and get 20+ MPG. Lots of fun and fast!

SWEEEEET!

Even a Duster with a slant 6 would be a catch if found in good shape!

19 posted on 01/08/2012 11:55:20 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

It’s hard to find any old Mopars driving around anymore. I also have a 70 D100 truck. Classic lines and a warmed up 360 engine. Gets some looks!


20 posted on 01/08/2012 12:04:03 PM PST by refermech
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To: taildragger

My first thought on seeing that was not Aston Martin, it was Mitsubishi Evo.

I’ll have to see it in person I guess, the photos don’t really floor me.

Glad to see them getting away from the over-blinged plastichrome slats on the grille, but I’m not really sure the thin horizontal bars say “Ford.” It’ll probably look good in a performance variant with all that blacked out. I’d have put the oval logo in the grille, myself.

There must be an across the board refresh coming on other Ford lines, for this to make sense in the context of Ford “family” design cues.


21 posted on 01/08/2012 12:06:07 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Flag_This

I mean, sure, where there’s smoke there may be fire, but the Volt just strikes me as something for the ash-heap of history.


Along with the Corvair and Obama.


22 posted on 01/08/2012 12:19:31 PM PST by bytesmith
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To: Leep

Pinto Wins Hands Down...:)

23 posted on 01/08/2012 12:30:00 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: bytesmith

Careful their, the Corvair was a poor man’s Porsche. Obama is not worthy of being mentioned with a Corvair...


24 posted on 01/08/2012 1:03:29 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Seizethecarp

Your well read, Seize. Yes Euro design stds and global platforms make for all sorts of “design constraints”...


25 posted on 01/08/2012 1:11:09 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: FReepaholic

Grinning, laughing at you faces. And the names....What is a Leganza anyway?

Remember the 54 or 55 Buick Roadmaster? That was a car that had an “irritated” face!


26 posted on 01/08/2012 2:46:23 PM PST by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
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To: Leep
Lets see..

The 74 working Pinto wins, the non working Pinto came in second. The Volt got recalled.

The Yugo that is working (the only one in the world) won. It was followed by all the other Yugos, then the Volt.

the Baker won, then 0 said that it is the best of today's technology, then gave the Baker's owner 9.9 trillion.

27 posted on 01/08/2012 2:47:41 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: tacticalogic; All

If it is known that this could be a danger, then it would be easy enough to remove batteries for a checkup and to a safe location after an accident.


28 posted on 01/08/2012 10:55:01 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: taildragger; All
The Photos are out un-embargoed...

Ford is claiming the "Energi" version will be the most fuel efficient car on the road, better number(s) than the Volt or the Leaf.

Let the political comparisons begin...

The "Energi" Drivetrain version.

29 posted on 01/09/2012 3:17:20 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger; All
With the "Energi" drivetrain, they are claiming 47 mpg City, 44 Highway....
30 posted on 01/09/2012 3:24:50 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger

Check out the latest photos @ Road and Track or any other car mag on-line for that matter.


31 posted on 01/09/2012 7:59:03 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger

Check out the latest photos @ Road and Track or any other car mag on-line for that matter.


32 posted on 01/09/2012 7:59:26 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: EGPWS

Until you remember than it only get 8 miles per gallon of premium.


33 posted on 01/09/2012 8:29:42 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: taildragger

The grille looks like the ones on the current Aston Martins.


34 posted on 01/09/2012 8:32:02 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: taildragger

OK, I may be in the minority, but I LIKE that look. It looks pissed off and aggressive.

We bought a car yesterday at Carmax (2010 Mazda 5 Sport). If we had been in the market for a four-door instead of a wagon, there was a 2010 Fusion SE there with the 3-liter six that I had my eye on. They’re good cars.

}:-)4


35 posted on 01/09/2012 9:02:15 AM PST by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: Seizethecarp

Wow!

I guess Ferraris are destined for a startling new look some time in the near future, huh?


36 posted on 01/09/2012 11:48:17 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Moose4
Jalopnik says...

"Open Wide and Say Hot"

http://jalopnik.com/5874135/2013-ford-fusion-open-wide-and-say-hot

37 posted on 01/09/2012 11:49:05 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger
This is the size of the contract between Ford and the UAW. The number of work rules makes it very difficult for Ford (or any other maker) to make cars efficiently.


38 posted on 01/09/2012 11:49:57 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Seizethecarp

I heard the guys on Top Gear talking about that. They also mentioned that the US regs now require much better rollover protection so the pillars (especially the A pillar) are much bigger. That has led to worse visibility in many vehicle. That makes very little sense in my book.


39 posted on 01/09/2012 11:54:40 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Flag_This
Post of the day!


40 posted on 01/09/2012 11:58:25 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Really....

Talked to one of my gnomes who's grand-dad was one of the guys who got the Union going at Ford because of the abuses.

His Grandson more conservative than you or I, has talked to his gnomes about these work rules and how they have become more like a Toyota type environment, i.e. where if it is broke fix it, regardless of you classification within reason of course, don't be playing wih 480v if ya don't know what your doing...

It happened 2 years ago and was slowly rolled out plant by plant.

To him it was a revolution, and we discussed it at length

Sorry you didn't hear or see it....

I am not sure he has a long-in here, but he follows my screen-name, curious to see if he chimes in :-)....

41 posted on 01/09/2012 12:00:30 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger

I’m glad to hear it. The contract I posted is from 2007. I hope they have seen the light.


42 posted on 01/09/2012 12:06:10 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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