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Evangelicals may face choice: electable candidate or 'moral' one
Tennessean | 1/8/12 | Bob Smietana | The Tennessean

Posted on 01/08/2012 10:43:12 AM PST by SmithL

Gannett Newspaper, Link Only: http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120108/NEWS02/301080082/Evangelicals-may-face-choice-electable-candidate-moral-one?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; christianvote; election2012; evangelicals; gop; primaries
Character matters, and that will haunt Gingrich. Nevertheless, his politics make him a better choice than Romney. If Romney is the nominee, I'll hold my nose and pull the lever, but God help us all if the choice is Paul or Obama.
1 posted on 01/08/2012 10:43:18 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

I love it when the pagans in the MSM attempt to share their penetrating insight into evangelicals. it’s always a riot.


2 posted on 01/08/2012 10:45:50 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: SmithL

I’ll take the “moral” one, thank you very much.


3 posted on 01/08/2012 10:48:53 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: SmithL
Character matters... but so does Redemption and forgiveness.

We have all done things we regret in life, some of us have been caught, others have been lucky and haven't been. But to pretend that some are without sin and are thus more “moral” because they have been lucky enough not to have been caught or to have had their particular failings covered trumpeted from the rooftops by the media is ridiculous.

Who's to say that Romney or everyone else on that stage hasn't had an affair? I'd say there is a good chance that everyone on that stage has had an issue in their marriages at some point in time, it's just that they obviously were able to work through it and keep their marriage together and to keep it from going public.

4 posted on 01/08/2012 10:52:18 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: SmithL

“Character matters, and that will haunt Gingrich.”

It shouldn’t...if Christians practice what they preach.

How often must we forgive ... particularly when another sinner has repented?


5 posted on 01/08/2012 10:54:43 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SmithL

“Noah was a mean drunk,”

??? Wow must be a modern translation they are reading.


6 posted on 01/08/2012 10:56:24 AM PST by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: JohnBrowdie

LOL. You are right. I started reading this and kept thinking who the heck are they talking about? I guess this reporter’s job is to explain those crazy Christian zealots to their urban readers. Most of the Lib urban readers are probably still afraid that if they drive through the Bible Belt and break down, they will be shot or raped by a bunch of Bible-toting Hillbillies.


7 posted on 01/08/2012 10:57:07 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SmithL

I’ll take the moral choice.


8 posted on 01/08/2012 10:58:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I’ll take the “moral” one for saint. You know, the one that drove with his family dog on the roof of his car, and later laughed it off. For president, I’ll take the brainy conservative one.


9 posted on 01/08/2012 10:59:44 AM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
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To: SmithL

During the period of the Judges of Israel, when God’s people turned to him and pled for help, he would choose a man (or, in one case, woman) to lead them to restoration.

Very often, that man was one of questionable character and feet of clay.

Let us all remember that the Lord God Jehovah is able to do anything He wants through whomever He chooses.

Humbly pray that this time he sends us the leader we need, not, as in 2008, the one we deserve.


10 posted on 01/08/2012 11:01:36 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: SmithL

The underpinning of the article is that romney is electable... or the most electable, or something like that. And, they provide no evidence to that effect. So, I guess I need to take their word that romney, as presented by the liberal media, the steponallofus’es and sawyers, npr/nyt/and the rest, is the only one that can beat zer0.


11 posted on 01/08/2012 11:04:51 AM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
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To: SmithL

Those have been our choices since Reagan.


12 posted on 01/08/2012 11:04:58 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (I STAND WITH ISRAEL)
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To: SmithL

As in much of life, people see the coarse Newt and judge his moral failings in a more harsh way than the more refined Romney.

My personal view is that Gingrich’s roller coaster fight with morality and faith is something that I can identify with and have some degree of trust in that it is real and common, much more than the,lifelong, unbroken, thoughtless, yet dedicated proselytizer’s path of depravity and evil of Mitt Romney.


13 posted on 01/08/2012 11:05:11 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: SumProVita
Practice what they preach, what is that suppose to mean, you can forgive the child molester and then send his soul to judgment. That is practicing what they preach. There is no other requirements.
14 posted on 01/08/2012 11:08:10 AM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newt's, Perry's and Willard's positions on Amnesty.)
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To: SmithL

Hmm. Would I have ¨voted¨ for King David? I´m not sure.


15 posted on 01/08/2012 11:09:33 AM PST by onedoug
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To: SmithL

Mitt Romney is not electable, Obama will crush him.


16 posted on 01/08/2012 11:09:44 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SmithL

I will not be voting for the architect of RomneyCare which contains mandated and subsidized $50 abortions.

@Newt Gingrich: Help me stop Romney’s pious baloney today: https://www.newt.org/donate
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17 posted on 01/08/2012 11:21:30 AM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: leapfrog0202


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18 posted on 01/08/2012 11:37:36 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: SmithL

...uh...which one is the moral one?


19 posted on 01/08/2012 11:42:07 AM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: org.whodat

Is English your native language? Just curious...


20 posted on 01/08/2012 11:45:27 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SmithL

Romney is neither electable or moral. Newt is both.

I will NEVER vote for Romney. EVER. I will vote R down ticket and either write in or vote 3rd party for pres depending upon my choices.

Mitt is a Socialist in a Republican suit and I will not cave to the GOP elite who think they are kingmakers and can keep shoving RINOS like Romney down our throat and that we will cave.

NO MORE!


21 posted on 01/08/2012 11:46:47 AM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I'm the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: SumProVita
You do not understand forgiving, why would you understand English.
22 posted on 01/08/2012 11:56:49 AM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newt's, Perry's and Willard's positions on Amnesty.)
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To: org.whodat

“You do not understand forgiving..”

Really? How do you know this?

“...why would you understand English.”

How is knowing English dependent on forgiving or understanding forgiveness?


23 posted on 01/08/2012 12:02:50 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Redemption is for God in Heaven.

I simply can not trust a man who made commitments before God to his ex-wives and cheated on both of them. He is totally untrustworthy.


24 posted on 01/08/2012 12:59:43 PM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: SmithL

“If Romney is the nominee, I’ll hold my nose and pull the lever.....”

That is exactly what the Republican elite AND OBAMA is counting on.

The Republican elite, MSM, including Fox news, are ruining this country every bit as much as Obama and the dems.

I WILL NOT reward them with my vote. My character will not allow me to vote for that lying POS baby killing RINO Romney.

Character does matter and it takes character to publicly admit, without reservation, that you were wrong, as well as making peace with God.

Character does matter and it takes character to forgive a man for his foolish deeds. It takes character to see beyond the sins of another man.

It takes absolutely no character for any man to pretend they are holier than thou and without sin in their life.

Most, if not all men have been in rooms they would not have wanted to had died in.

As far as I know, there has been only one perfect man and he was Nailed to a Cross.

Having said all of that, I am not looking for a president that I can go to church with or one that we can pretend is oh so holy. I want a strong leader, with a proven record of accomplishments and a clear vision of the future. I am not looking for a Reverend, Priest or Rabi. I want a president that will turn this country around intelligently and quickly.

I will continue to support the one man that I believe in my heart and head can turn this country around and set the course for my children and grandchildren to have a better future........ that man is Newt Gingrich.

GO NEWT GO.........


25 posted on 01/08/2012 1:08:13 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: SmithL

The moral choice is to get Obama out of office.

If “evangelicals” want to blow it like they seem to do in most presidential elections, they will go with the guy with no fight, but will make a jim dandy Sunday school teacher.

They need to learn how to to fight a political war. Jesus is not going to banish you to hell for it.


26 posted on 01/08/2012 1:08:24 PM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: edge10

No, redemption is FOR humanity. The price of which was paid for by Christ, the son of God Who is in heaven. It is freely available for all who believe on His name and recieve redemption now. You can’t wait to recieve redemption when you think you’ll get to heaven. It will be too late. So wake up from your sleep and believe now.


27 posted on 01/08/2012 1:11:58 PM PST by wwcj
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To: wwcj

Totally agree with you. I was simply trying to say, Newt’s redemption is between him and God. Only God knows if Newt has put his faith in Christ.

Just because Newt says so doesn’t mean I have to trust him.


28 posted on 01/08/2012 1:16:15 PM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: edge10

Can you trust a man who is forgiven of murder? Say Paul who wrote 2/3 of the new testament?
Or Moses...David?
Is adultry worse than murder to you?


29 posted on 01/08/2012 1:23:16 PM PST by wwcj
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To: Gator113

Great post.


30 posted on 01/08/2012 1:41:46 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: VanDeKoik
The moral choice is to get Obama out of office.

False premise. If you replace him with an equally problematic person, you have indeed made the immoral choice.

If when offered the 30 pieces of silver, would Judas been more moral if he asked for the left hand to deliver the spoils, instead of the right?

31 posted on 01/08/2012 1:43:29 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Thank you.... ;>)


32 posted on 01/08/2012 1:52:18 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: itsahoot

No one up there is as problematic as Obama. And I dont like Romney, Paul, or Huntsman.


33 posted on 01/08/2012 2:08:41 PM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: VanDeKoik
No one up there is as problematic as Obama. And I dont like Romney, Paul, or Huntsman.

That leaves two, pick one.

34 posted on 01/08/2012 2:10:02 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: edge10

well... it’s a good thing you and everyone you know and are friends with has never sinned, because then you couldn’t trust anyone, even yourself.

/s


35 posted on 01/08/2012 2:13:06 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: SmithL
The moral and the intelligent -- your choice!

Gingrich-Santorum
 
or
 
Santorum-Gingrich

36 posted on 01/08/2012 2:31:09 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SmithL
Newt has changed dramatically. Here are some FR links about his conversion.

Newt Gingrich: What Kind of Catholic Is He? [Born Lutheran, Turned Baptist, Now Catholic]
Newt Gingrich: America’s Next Catholic President?
Clemson Palmetto Poll finds Gingrich (38%) momentum growing, most S.C. GOP voters still uncommitted
Gingrich Threatens GOP's Chance to Nab Independents

The Evangelical Case for Newt Gingrich
Gingrich Represents New Political Era for Catholics
Gingrich Represents New Political Era for Catholics [ecumenical}
Newt Gingrich on Catholicism and JPII
Why Newt Gingrich Converted to Catholicism
Exclusive: Newt Gingrich Opens Up on Catholic Conversion and Embracing 'Overt Christianity'
Newt Gingrich on his conversion to Catholicism
Gingrich Keeps Quiet on Catholic Conversion (received into Church over the past weekend)
Exclusive: Newt Gingrich conversion details; plans release of JP2 documentary
Gingrich to Become Catholic During Easter Season
The Newt Evangelization: Gingrich to become Catholic

37 posted on 01/08/2012 2:32:51 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: org.whodat

How do you know that?


38 posted on 01/08/2012 2:35:36 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: wonkowasright

Well, he did get drunk and when his son made fun of him, banished the son.


39 posted on 01/08/2012 2:38:43 PM PST by Mercat
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To: SmithL

“Moral politician” is an oxymoron. But it may be that some are less immoral than others.


40 posted on 01/08/2012 3:20:41 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: VanDeKoik
The moral choice is to get Obama out of office.

The moral choice is to get Obama out of office and keep Romney out of office. Romney is no better than Obama.
41 posted on 01/08/2012 5:34:52 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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