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Extinctions from Climate Change Underestimated (species have been migrating, face competition)
LiveScience.com ^ | 1/4/12 | Wynne Parry

Posted on 01/08/2012 12:14:55 PM PST by NormsRevenge

As climate change progresses, the planet may lose more plant and animal species than predicted, a new modeling study suggests.

This is because current predictions overlook two important factors: the differences in how quickly species relocate and competition among species, according to the researchers, led by Mark Urban, an ecologist at the University of Connecticut.

Already evidence suggests that species have begun to migrate out of ranges made inhospitable by climate change and into newly hospitable territory.

"We have really sophisticated meteorological models for predicting climate change," Urban said in a statement. "But in real life, animals move around, they compete, they parasitize each other and they eat each other. The majority of our predictions don't include these important interactions."

These are important because some species may not be able to move fast enough to survive, or they may have to compete with new species or species better able to adapt to the shifts during and after the move.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: climatechange; extinctions; species; underestimated

1 posted on 01/08/2012 12:14:57 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
"a modeling study" means creative statistics

aka "tell me what you want for the result"

Man is sooooo vain!!

2 posted on 01/08/2012 12:20:22 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Oh my, the world is going to die!

Quick,,, give me your money.


3 posted on 01/08/2012 12:22:59 PM PST by Wildbill22
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To: NormsRevenge
We have been seeing mountain lions in upper Il. and Ia. for several years now. I was with a group that was discussing this and some lib puts on the usual “of course, dumb ass conservative” act and arrogantly tells us that they are moving south because of global warming. South?
4 posted on 01/08/2012 12:24:02 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Thank goodness dinosaurs didn't survive.

I'm still wondering why we need condors??? They spent tons of money to breed and get these little turds into the universe.

I like the Happy Feet story the best...the Penguin they nurtured then shoved into the ocean where he was apparently gobbled up within a few hours.

The whole thing was dumb but I'm sure the real story was whether or not he could find his way and it was just a little "radar" test. Whoops

5 posted on 01/08/2012 12:27:13 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: NormsRevenge
We know for a fact that the world was warmer 1000 years ago than it is today.

That simple fact tells me that I just don't need to care about this stuff.

6 posted on 01/08/2012 12:29:23 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Obviously, the biggest threat to species is simply space. Humans and their stuff take up more and more space. There will be species extinctions because of this. As long as humans continue to multiply, it cannot be avoided, only delayed. This has nothing to do with climate change.


7 posted on 01/08/2012 12:31:08 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: NormsRevenge
Humbug. More "math models" by college perfessers who don't want to get their hands dirty by going out into the real world and gathering real data.
8 posted on 01/08/2012 12:32:16 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: NormsRevenge

Wow! All these millions of species have existed unchanged and unmoved since the beginning of time, and now all of a sudden,they are becoming extinct and have begun migrating. Well, I guess it is 2012. We’re all doomed.


9 posted on 01/08/2012 12:33:54 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hopefully one of those doomed species is the democrat.


10 posted on 01/08/2012 12:36:03 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: NormsRevenge

So, how many new species eventually emerge?


11 posted on 01/08/2012 12:36:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: chris37

I would probably go to a zoo to see the last surviving socialist or at least click on a link to view a video.


12 posted on 01/08/2012 12:56:41 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (This Message Contains Privileged Attorney-Client Communications)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Beverly Caribou herd was thought to have disappeared by climate scientists, but.....

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20111120/herd-of-saskatchewan-caribou-located-111120/

Did they listen to the locals who said:

“While scientists are excited, aboriginal elders are more likely to shrug.

Said Campbell: “When the initial alarm bells were ringing about the Beverly herd disappearing, right away we went in to talk to the communities and they said: ‘No, no, no. These caribou have moved north and we've been told by our elders that they do that.”’

Thompson heard — the same.

“Many of the community people reported that elders think this is nothing new. Caribou move.”

Climate scientists jumped all over this as further proof of AGW.....because the models say so.....no need to do field research.

Bees were disappearing due to AGW, NOW:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/parasite-turns-honey-bees-zombies-212258832.html

Frogs were another AGW hit, until......re-searcher’s hygiene protocols were observed transporting fungi around the world via their research field expeditions. There is no science amongst the AGW community...only reaction.

13 posted on 01/08/2012 12:56:57 PM PST by Puckster
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
If you’d like to be on or off this Outdoors/Rural/wildlife/hunting/hiking/backpacking/National Parks/animals list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

Already evidence suggests that species have begun to migrate out of ranges made inhospitable by climate change and into newly hospitable territory.

With rent support and food stamps, this wouldn't happen.

14 posted on 01/08/2012 1:08:07 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims¬óDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: NormsRevenge

The Naugas have been completely wiped off the face of the earth, all in the name of furniture.


15 posted on 01/08/2012 1:34:09 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Naugahyde is no longer available due to the Naugas being hunted to extinction.....)
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To: NormsRevenge

Most animals don’t own a home. They don’t even rent. They are probably fairly nomadic and follow their food sources. Am I wrong?


16 posted on 01/08/2012 1:40:39 PM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: NormsRevenge
So much has happened with the animals due to the climate change. Much has been missed as some bio-diverse areas were poorly studied. My parents had a small farm in Olympia Washington and my dad kept weather records for 3o years and noted the summers getting hotter and the tomatoes ripening before the 1st frost for the last 10 years they lived there. My dad is a Dr of Chemistry and does research so he knows how to measure and record data - Where I work we keep close track of the weather at it is very important data for our equipment testing and we can see the summer temps higher and other strange weather items. Something is happening - cause man or nature or both still needs to be determined - but I do believe we should do something to reduce the impact by Man. I do my part everyday - drive a vehicle that gets over 40 mpg - have for 30 plus years. Recycle everything I can - have for over 30 years. Live simple and love the outdoors. I feel bad for people that have never heard the song of the warbler, enjoyed the antics of a humming bird or laughed at the wobbly fawn.
17 posted on 01/08/2012 1:44:46 PM PST by Tubac414 (Just want to ride my Motorcycle)
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To: NormsRevenge
As climate change progresses, the planet may lose more plant and animal species than predicted, a new modeling study suggests.

Think of it as evolution in action.

18 posted on 01/08/2012 3:06:25 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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To: CrazyIvan
Ask them if they ever heard of the Florida Panther? Here's a picture:


19 posted on 01/08/2012 3:11:56 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: NormsRevenge

Where should I register my wish list?

Maybe we should hold a raffle too.


20 posted on 01/08/2012 3:38:16 PM PST by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: NormsRevenge

“the planet may lose more plant and animal species than predicted”

Imagine a world without broccoli and democrats.

Please let this be true......


21 posted on 01/08/2012 3:55:20 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: leapfrog0202



PLEASE DONATE

22 posted on 01/08/2012 4:28:09 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: NormsRevenge

I thought evolution is true? Why are the liberals running with their heads on fire about climate change if animals can adapt (evolution)?


23 posted on 01/08/2012 5:56:35 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: NormsRevenge
These are important because some species may not be able to move fast enough to survive, or they may have to compete with new species or species better able to adapt to the shifts during and after the move.

I thought they worshiped this as "Evolution In Action"!?!

I also thought that this is what has happened millions of times over just the last billion years.

Even more billions of years ago, life destroyed this planet, by converting a perfectly good, methane, ammonia, hydrogen and water vapor reducing atmosphere into a terribly poisonous, oxidizing brew, featuring a hefty percentage of FREE OXYGEN!

SAVE THE CYANOBACTERIA!

24 posted on 01/08/2012 7:31:28 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (I prefer Crony Capitalism to Crony Judicialism...unless it's MY crony on the bench)
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To: NormsRevenge

Climate Change is sooo 2010. The next real (/s) crisis is ocean acidity.


25 posted on 01/09/2012 4:37:48 AM PST by Makana
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To: Makana

FR .. ahead of the curve. :-]

‘The next real (/s) crisis is ocean acidity.’

Scripps blockbuster: Ocean acidification happens all the time — naturally
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2830449/posts


26 posted on 01/09/2012 9:04:24 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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