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George Will's advice to GOP: Blame Bush, not Obama (Video)
Daily Caller ^ | January 8, 2012 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 01/08/2012 12:38:39 PM PST by Rufus2007

The Iowa Republican caucuses turnout numbers were slightly higher in 2012 than they were in 2008. However, without a Democratic presidential caucus to compete with, some are asking why the turnout numbers weren’t significantly higher. The suggestion is that the enthusiasm for the field is lacking.

That could be a problem, according to Washington Post columnist George Will. On Sunday’s “This Week,” Will chalked that deficiency up to the tea party not being passionate about Republican politics.

“That’s right, because Iowa is on everyone’s list of 12 to 14 swing states that you have to carry to win the presidency, the Republicans should be alarmed at the — I want to call it depression, but the absence of passion,” Will said. “We all know that the passion and the Republican Party is in the tea party — the tea party just isn’t an important part of the Republican base, it is the base at this point. And there is no one on the stage … the fact is, someone has to find the voice of the tea party.”

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This is ill-advised IMO.

And people wonder why the Republican Inside the Beltway RINO establishment has a bad name. Ask George Will.

1 posted on 01/08/2012 12:38:51 PM PST by Rufus2007
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To: Rufus2007

George Will is proof no one should live within the Beltway for more than 20 years. There’s some brain-destroying substance in the air or water there.


2 posted on 01/08/2012 12:41:38 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: NativeNewYorker

He just wants to be invited to dinner with Barky again.


3 posted on 01/08/2012 12:45:31 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Rufus2007

If George Will advises something, better do the opposite


4 posted on 01/08/2012 12:45:47 PM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Rufus2007

George:
You need to hire a nurse who can follow you around all day and wipe that unfortunate drool off your face while she feeds you “Ensure”.

You are an addled old man.


5 posted on 01/08/2012 12:47:53 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Rufus2007

some are asking why the turnout numbers weren’t significantly high


Maybe they don’t want to invest a lot of energy into something that appears to be predermined?
Which is kind of a self fullfilling profecy.


6 posted on 01/08/2012 12:49:26 PM PST by Leep
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To: NativeNewYorker; Rufus2007

“We all know that the passion and the Republican Party is in the tea party — the tea party just isn’t an important part of the Republican base, it is the base at this point. And there is no one on the stage … the fact is, someone has to find the voice of the tea party.”

Ok, moving beyond the obligatory anti-George Will comments, what is wrong with what he pointed out? Since the 2010 elections (and even during) didn’t the Republican establishment tell the tea-party folks to shut up and go home? And aren’t they doing as their elders said to?


7 posted on 01/08/2012 12:49:44 PM PST by ngat
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To: Rufus2007

There’s certainly plenty to criticize Bush for; still this idea that Republicans shouldn’t criticize Obama is foolish. The tea party doesn’t want to see Republicans infighting. That’s just stupid. Obama is The Problem.


8 posted on 01/08/2012 12:54:20 PM PST by Not The Other One
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To: Rufus2007
The Democrats got a fair amount of traction out of "Worst economy since Hoover". They didn't have facts and figures to back it up, but it became a common observation and got inside people's heads.

Republicans should just start talking about Rezko, Larry Sinclair, missing records, birth certificates, Fast& Furious, Muslims in America, and Marxism. We don't need to make accusations. We don't need proof. We should just talk about that stuff as if this is the air the country is breathing right now.

OR we could talk about how the problems started when we last put a Republican in the White House.

Maybe it's just me, but I think Will's strategy is not as good as mine.

9 posted on 01/08/2012 1:01:36 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: ngat

When TEA hit with a vengeance,, the GOP gave us Scazzafva,, they supported Murkowski against a TEA repub. They cut Sarah off at the knees every chance they got. They worked against Rand Paul, and after he won treated him like crap. They supported Crist in Florida.
They made very sure to not let Bachmann into any leadership post. They minimized the role of DeMint.
They went out of their way to make sure nobody associated with TEA had any leadership role in the GOP.

Then they told TEA that we better support them because Obama is worse. The GOP is cynical and tells me at every turn that that they have a right to my vote, and feel no obligation to even pretend to earn it.


10 posted on 01/08/2012 1:03:51 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Rufus2007
John Adams stated:"The foundation of every government is some principle or passion in the minds of the People."

The Founders' principle was LIBERTY. The virtue among the people often referenced by the Founders was linked to this love of liberty referenced by John Jay, the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court:

"Let virtue, honor, the love of liberty . . . be the soul of this constitution, and it will become he source of great and extensive happiness to this and future generations. Vice, ignorance and want of vigilance, will be the only enemies able to destroy it."(Quoted in "Our Ageless Constitution" Essay entitled, "Virtue Among the People" available here

Rediscovering and understanding the principles which made the American Constitution a protection for liberty may be the most important task of our day, and time is running out. The "enemies" already have censored these principles from the nation's textbooks and much of our public discourse.

If every person on this thread and every person involved in the TEA Party movement would commit himself/herself to understanding and then sharing the ideas of liberty with at least 3 people, what a difference that might make!

Will's analysis doesn't go far enough. Tea Partiers and other citizens who care about their country, of whatever origin or political persuasion need to become passionate--about liberty--before it is lost!

Levin's "Liberty and Tyranny," Schweikart's "A Patriot's History of the U. S.," and Stedman and Lewis's "Our Ageless Constitution" lay out these principles in easy-to-understand language and are an excellent means by which our own "dumbed-down" generations can be exposed to the truly revolutionary principles by which our liberty was obtained.

11 posted on 01/08/2012 1:06:49 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: ngat
"What you have to have now is an argument against big-government conservatism"

The LAST thing we need right now is a public circular firing squad. The rhetoric must be directed against Obama and what his crew has done to the country. There'll be plenty of time to bring the public up the learning curve on the 10th Amendment if we win. If we lose, it won't matter that we had a nice "argument".

12 posted on 01/08/2012 1:09:03 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Rufus2007
“And the way you start that is by saying, what got us into trouble isn’t Barack Obama — what got the tea party enkindled, so dry and flammable in February 2009 was the policies of the Bush administration,” Will said. “What you have to have now is an argument against big-government conservatism and tea party limited government, 10th amendment conservatism.”

That's not very coherent. Especially the last sentence. But a lot depends on the context.

Democrats are going to say, "Where was the Tea Party when Bush was overspending and running up deficits?" and that's something any Republican candidate has to have an answer for.

It won't be the main message, but the answer to that objection has to be in the Republican message somewhere.

13 posted on 01/08/2012 1:10:16 PM PST by x
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To: x

The answer is that the TEA party movement was formed in reaction to the democrat congress, Bush and the entrenched GOP establishment screwing things up. Obama is the target, obama with the democrat party pushed this crap on the nation and obama should get the blame at every opportunity. Blame Bush, not obama; what a bunch of crap! The democrat party and obama deserve and should get absolutely NO respect at all.

FUBO & FAD


14 posted on 01/08/2012 1:20:17 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: jospehm20
That glorious dinner with The Messiah took place at Will's very own house. The tingles of happy remembrance still course through his being and George would just love to do it all over again.
15 posted on 01/08/2012 1:24:37 PM PST by JPG (Matters at which the foolish laugh and at whose consequences the prudent weep.)
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To: Rufus2007
Hey when I first read this thread I agreed with you and saw the headline and made me think what the heck happen to George?

I got so mad (drinking coffee right now) that I decided to look at the video. I STRONGLY RECOMMEND ALL FREEPERS watch the video. Here is the link,

http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/08/george-wills-advice-to-gop-blame-bush-not-obama-to-excite-tea-party/#ooid=Z5eDk5MzqE6z-q7OhOj5WK7-t18pcHDY

George Bush was without a doubt a big government Republican. Even outside the September 11th spending Bush DID GROW the Federal Government the fastest since LBJ.

No Child Left Behind, the Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit, comprehensive immigration reform and TARP are all Bush RINO policies

Conservatives separated themselves from Bush by moving to his right before the 2008 election. That is why is McCain selected Sarah Palin as a VP. To rope the conservatives (aka Tea Party) back in to the GOP tent.

16 posted on 01/08/2012 1:33:42 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: NativeNewYorker

“The LAST thing we need right now is a public circular firing squad.”

Isn’t that exactly what we have had ever since the debates started way back last spring when Pawlenty and a bunch of others were still in it?

Seems to me like George Will is complaining that TEA people are refusing to get their heads shot off in the currently- active circular firing squad. And that really chaps him!


17 posted on 01/08/2012 1:34:35 PM PST by ngat
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To: NativeNewYorker
If you watch the video George is not attacking conservatives. He is attacking RINOs and defending conservatives.

The headline is very deceptive. I admit it got me fired up until I watched the video.

18 posted on 01/08/2012 1:40:54 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Rufus2007
Conservatives have to accept that they do not have a political party to turn to in Washington. Yes there are some conservative Republicans and I support them. However, there is not a conservative party in Washington. It use to be the Republicans, but that started to change under Bush 41.

The sooner conservatives accept this reality the sooner we can turn things around. Right now as it stands you will not see any change in Washington policy unless there is true conservative in the White House. The last real conservative there was Ronald Reagan.

So voting for the Republican candidate will not put us on the right track. Mitt Romney, if elected, will continue with the globalist policies that Clinton, Bush and Obama have been pushing through.

The time is ripe for a new party.

19 posted on 01/08/2012 1:51:36 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Rufus2007

I’d trust Obama futher than I’d trust George Effin Will.


20 posted on 01/08/2012 2:01:06 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Rufus2007

Bush is not blameless, but Obama compounded the problems many times over.


21 posted on 01/08/2012 2:03:14 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’m with you. I like your strategy.


22 posted on 01/08/2012 2:08:12 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Rufus2007

George Will is not a conservative will have to just push him aside.


23 posted on 01/08/2012 2:14:41 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Rufus2007

Skilled writers are always tempted to think of themselves as coracles of great wisdom. George is one of them. I have enjoyed his writing, but am frequently dismayed by his ever more frequent flights of megalomanic posturing.


24 posted on 01/08/2012 2:22:03 PM PST by cookcounty (Newt 2012: ---> Because he got it DONE.)
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To: ngat
Ok, moving beyond the obligatory anti-George Will comments, what is wrong with what he pointed out?

Nothing. There usually isn't. I think Pavlov came closest to explaining it.

25 posted on 01/08/2012 2:57:37 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Rufus2007

And the way you start that is by saying, what got us into trouble isn’t Barack Obama

How much do you think he got to shovel that? I’m trying to wrap my head around siding with Obama that he is not to blame (even partially) for this mess we’re in and that this will somehow help Republicans? I just can’t....


26 posted on 01/08/2012 3:06:38 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: Vendome
From Wikipedia

Will said in a Colbert Report interview that he is agnostic


27 posted on 01/08/2012 3:22:43 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Rufus2007

Obamalamadingdong kept crying about what he inherited from Bush. Yeah, 4.5 unemployment and 1.4 trillion debt. His Hopey Changey changed all that.


28 posted on 01/08/2012 3:43:43 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: Rufus2007

Will, who supports mittens, thinks it’s good for the GOP to go after Bush? Bush and mittens are both big government establishment rinos, so I don’t get it. What’s the difference?


29 posted on 01/08/2012 4:16:09 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: leapfrog0202



PLEASE DONATE

30 posted on 01/08/2012 4:23:06 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: MamaDearest

I don’t care..... LOL


31 posted on 01/09/2012 10:56:44 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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