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OBAMA TO SHARE SECRETS (Will give Russians top secret missile data, if they promise to be good!)
WT ^ | Bill gertz

Posted on 01/09/2012 12:30:22 AM PST by MindBender26

President Obama signaled Congress this week that he is prepared to share U.S. missile defense secrets with Russia.

U.S. officials are planning to provide Moscow with the SM-3 data, despite reservations from security officials who say that doing so could compromise the effectiveness of the system by allowing Russian weapons technicians to counter the missile. The weapons are considered some of the most effective high-speed interceptors in the U.S. missile defense arsenal.

There are also concerns that Russia could share the secret data with China and rogue states such as Iran and North Korea to help their missile programs defeat U.S. missile defenses.

Section 1227 of the new defense law prohibits spending any funds that would be used to give Russian officials access to sensitive missile-defense technology, as part of a cooperation agreement without first sending Congress a report identifying the specific secrets, how they would be used and steps to protect the data from compromise.

The president also must certify to Congress that Russia will not share the secrets with other states and that it will not help Russia “to develop countermeasures” to U.S. defenses.

The certification also must show whether Russia is providing equal access to its missile defense technologies, which are mainly nuclear-tipped anti-missile interceptors.

Mr. Obama said in the signing statement that he would treat the legal restrictions as “non-binding.”

“While my administration intends to keep the Congress fully informed of the status of U.S. efforts to cooperate with the Russian Federation on ballistic missile defense, my administration will also interpret and implement section 1244 in a manner that does not interfere with the president’s constitutional authority to conduct foreign affairs and avoids the undue disclosure of sensitive diplomatic communications,” Mr. Obama said, incorrectly identifying the section of the law containing the restrictions.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barackhusseinobama; bhorussia; gertz; obama; shadowwars; threatmatrix; treason
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Obama how decides which part of a law he will follow, and which part he will ignore.

How posibly could the US know if Putin slips this data to the PRC, the NORKS, Iran, etc?

This is impeachable idiocy.

1 posted on 01/09/2012 12:30:29 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26

It is called treason!


2 posted on 01/09/2012 12:33:16 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: MindBender26
Almost sounds like something a Marxist with a commie mommy
that met a Kenyan daddy in a Russian language class would do.
3 posted on 01/09/2012 12:34:22 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: MindBender26

We don’t only have an Obama problem. We have a problem in that 68 million people were stupid enough to vote for him in the first place — all egged on by a Marxist press.


4 posted on 01/09/2012 12:34:49 AM PST by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: MindBender26

Anyone want to make book on a coup?


5 posted on 01/09/2012 12:36:25 AM PST by miele man
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To: tallyhoe

You got it! And the penalty for treason in time of war is death. And, most important, there is NO Statute of Limitations for treason.


6 posted on 01/09/2012 12:36:56 AM PST by matthew fuller ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." Winston Churchill)
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To: miele man

The film “Seven days in May” comes to mind, but with an alternative ending..


7 posted on 01/09/2012 12:41:08 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: MindBender26

President Obama is, unfortunately, right on this one. Congress doesn’t have authority to tell a president how to conduct foreign relations.

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_govt.html

Perhaps voters should have considered this before they made an American-hating Marxist our president (you don’t try to fundamentally transform something you love). This also doesn’t count as treason, because we aren’t at war with Russia. Even if it WAS treason, we have no effective way to impeach a president whose party controls the Senate.


8 posted on 01/09/2012 12:48:53 AM PST by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do it. Try good instead!)
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Oh, good Lord:

>>” Russia will not share the secrets with other states and that it will not help Russia “to develop countermeasures” to U.S. defenses.”

That’s impossible to monitor or verify - except in its breach. and then it’s too late.

Congress has to stop this.


9 posted on 01/09/2012 12:49:28 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: MindBender26

unless possibly it says that we can cream china a hundred times over, in which case there are probably worse things than bragging about it.


10 posted on 01/09/2012 12:52:42 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: tallyhoe

No, it’s called ‘high treason’.


11 posted on 01/09/2012 12:52:53 AM PST by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: MindBender26

It is more than just a bit absurd that the question is - Will the Russians share these secrets? - when Obama is the one sharing these secrets in the first place.

Why wouldn’t they?

This is treason in broad daylight.


12 posted on 01/09/2012 12:57:44 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: D-fendr

How?


13 posted on 01/09/2012 1:02:25 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: MindBender26
Why not?
The idiot gave our top-secret stealth drone technology to Iran!

Obama gives drone to Iran

14 posted on 01/09/2012 1:24:48 AM PST by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: MindBender26

How can we afford this dangerous loon?


15 posted on 01/09/2012 2:34:55 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: MindBender26

The question here is WHY?

WHY does the Muslim want to do this?

What do we get in return?

What possible sense does it make to hand Russia our missile secrets?

Again this fool sells us out cheaply.


16 posted on 01/09/2012 2:47:31 AM PST by Venturer
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To: MindBender26
"There are also concerns that Russia could share the secret data with China and rogue states such as Iran and North Korea to help their missile programs defeat U.S. missile defenses."

Do ya think so????? Paging Captain Obvious....

17 posted on 01/09/2012 2:54:03 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Venturer

“... Again this fool sells us out cheaply.”

Old Maxim:
Keep your enemies close
Keep the enemies of your enemy closer

Would this make Obumo the “pimp-in-chief”
It seems like he is determined to give all out technolgy and military secrets away... missles ,unmanned drones, etc.
Funny how he gives away stuff, and we get nothing in return,..just saying.


18 posted on 01/09/2012 3:17:34 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: MindBender26

I’m reminded of a video game, when once I was playing so badly that it stopped and asked “Are you trying to lose?”


19 posted on 01/09/2012 3:19:30 AM PST by CDFingers (Liars and Commies and Czars Oh My!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“Paging Captain Obvious.... “

Paging Captain Obvious.... Lines #1 and 2


20 posted on 01/09/2012 3:19:33 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: miele man

It’s already happened.


21 posted on 01/09/2012 3:19:40 AM PST by Josephat (The old claim your evengelizing people who haven't heard the gospel, but go to a Catholic country tr)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

4 more years of this clown and he will have given our country away.


22 posted on 01/09/2012 3:27:06 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Josephat

Did anyone figure out what he got or gets in return for this? Clinton go campaign money for his info dump to the Chinese and this a$$hat gets what?


23 posted on 01/09/2012 3:29:12 AM PST by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“Its already happened”

Paging Captain Obvious : Lines #1 , #2, and #3

What does it take to point out the obvious : this is a Commie-Islamo-Facist !!
There is no pro-American bone in his body; he is bent on the destruction of American Capitalism , American Exceptionalism, American Enterprize, American Economy, etc., etc.
Paging Captain Obvious : Can we re-consider the citizenship of the “puppet-master-in-charge” : George Soros ??


24 posted on 01/09/2012 3:33:37 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: DooDahhhh

He gets the pleasure of weakening our land and paving the way for the one world communist government he and Bill Ayers are setting up. It is time for serious prayer.


25 posted on 01/09/2012 3:41:28 AM PST by Josephat (The old claim your evengelizing people who haven't heard the gospel, but go to a Catholic country tr)
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To: gemoftheocean

Isn’t this grounds for the Joint Chiefs to take him out and rule as a Junta? Until the next election? He should be hauled out of the White House in chains. I could live with President Panetta or Petraus. Looks like its high time something is done.


26 posted on 01/09/2012 3:42:54 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Josephat

I believe you are right on that one!


27 posted on 01/09/2012 3:48:35 AM PST by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: MindBender26

This is treason! No questions about it!


28 posted on 01/09/2012 4:24:12 AM PST by rawhide
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To: MindBender26

Savage covered this on Friday. Came out swinging and outright called it treason.


29 posted on 01/09/2012 4:34:42 AM PST by jersey117 (.)
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To: Josephat

“..one world communist government..”

That’s the plan. And the American sheeple just keep “baaahing” their way down the road to a NWO.

Imagine if Ronald Reagan went into a coma right after he defeated the USSR and he woke up today? “You did what!”


30 posted on 01/09/2012 4:46:48 AM PST by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: MindBender26

Which of Obama’s actions in office, have not been designed to destroy America?


31 posted on 01/09/2012 4:57:08 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: MindBender26
Why is hussein not in prison for life? Seriously. If you or I or any American citizen did these kinds of things we would be jailed under national security laws, the key thrown away, and that would be that. Congress, are you listening? hussein is an un-American, anti-American, treasonous {expletive}. Put him behind bars now, or join him there when we vote in your replacements.

The president also must certify to Congress that Russia will not share the secrets with other states and that it will not help Russia “to develop countermeasures” to U.S. defenses.

Cannot be done. Any information is useful in developing countermeasures. I'll repeat that - any and all information is useful in developing countermeasures. Therefore no information can (nor should) be shared, period.

The certification also must show whether Russia is providing equal access to its missile defense technologies, which are mainly nuclear-tipped anti-missile interceptors.

What a crock of {expletive}. The Russian nuclear air/missile defense system was developed in the 1960s. That is 40 and 50 year old technology that was crap then, and hasn't gotten better with age. This is a complete BS smoke-screen. There is no Russian anti-missile technology that we want - because functionally, there is no Russian anti-missile technology to be had. The GPS nav system in your car has better location technology than anything the Russians have.

hussein should be on his way to prison - now! Wake up Congress!

35 posted on 01/09/2012 5:08:36 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

You better do some homework on our Sec of Defense...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2736794/posts


36 posted on 01/09/2012 5:09:03 AM PST by Former MSM Viewer
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To: MindBender26

Congress is BEHIND Obama in his treason.

Congress enabled his fraud against America
and then DID NOTHING while he sold out America, year
after year.

Every single member of Congress belongs in jail
for misprision of felony and allowing this continue.


37 posted on 01/09/2012 5:13:25 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: MindBender26

Treason done in plain sight. Where are the howls of protest? We spent billions and billions on these systems....all for nothing if Obama goes through with this


38 posted on 01/09/2012 5:14:42 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: MindBender26
One part of 0bama's carefully concealed academic past was a thesis he wrote on U.S. nuclear disarmament, at a time when a key focus of KGB propaganda was selling unilateral disarmament to the West.

0bama is a Communist, born & bred.

But John Kerry got away with treason too.

39 posted on 01/09/2012 5:15:10 AM PST by hellbender
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To: hellbender

Who are we to doubt our “betters”?


40 posted on 01/09/2012 5:17:16 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: CitizenUSA
One cannot simply do something against the vital interests of the country and call it “diplomacy.”

A state of war is not necessary for treason to occur. Penalties are worse during war but it can occur during peace time as well.

41 posted on 01/09/2012 5:39:33 AM PST by MindBender26 (Don't bother me with the small stuff. I'm too busy trying to save the Republic from Obamaism)
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To: MindBender26

“This is impeachable idiocy.”

It’s certainly a sterling “WTF” moment.

I don’t believe “conducting foreign affairs” and “revealing top military secrets” are synonymous...

0bama is certainly testing the constitutional limits, this is an area the could clearly use more “checks and balances”.


42 posted on 01/09/2012 5:51:29 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: MindBender26

Every single decision Obama makes is to harm America.


43 posted on 01/09/2012 5:56:59 AM PST by Lazamataz (Every single decision Obama makes is to harm America.)
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To: MindBender26
The insanity that keeps on giving.

But 'surely' this is not Obama's decision - alone. Not that we could ever trust his 'back-dooring' this somehow; but upon last check; he does not yet, have full dictator status.

So where, beyond 'a grumbling'; is our Leadership? This cannot legitimately happen; right?

44 posted on 01/09/2012 6:15:04 AM PST by cricket ('Obama kingdom' must go. Restore our White House - and Country - to legitimacy - and vote 'Newt'.)
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To: MindBender26
Hope so; and 'if so'; the impeachment should begin with his even articulating a plan; not after the fact.

Meantime; how many 'patriot Leaders' are really watching Obama; and have a plan to respond to his enemy-pleasing MO's? Beyond a loyal Military - CIC not included - is anyone 'out there' seriously protecting America?

45 posted on 01/09/2012 6:24:03 AM PST by cricket ('Obama kingdom' must go. Restore our White House - and Country - to legitimacy - and vote 'Newt'.)
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To: MindBender26

A RAT controlled Senate will approve this.


46 posted on 01/09/2012 7:51:01 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: tallyhoe

No mention of this in the currant GOP debates so it must be a non-issue.


47 posted on 01/09/2012 7:54:20 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: matthew fuller

You got it! And the penalty for treason in time of war is death. And, most important, there is NO Statute of Limitations for treason.

All right then lets arrest him for treason!


48 posted on 01/09/2012 9:45:43 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: MindBender26

A guy that used to work for me has finished up a quarter century in a federal prison for initiating a contact with the KGB and selling them highly classified information. He was convicted in 1986, when there was no declared war underway. Don’t know when he’ll be released but I hope it’s still a long way off.


49 posted on 01/09/2012 11:46:15 AM PST by Ax
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To: dennisw
Treason done in plain sight. Where are the howls of protest? We spent billions and billions on these systems....all for nothing if Obama goes through with this

Correct.

50 posted on 01/09/2012 12:07:54 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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