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Santorum, Perry Campaign In Upstate
WYFF News ^ | January 9, 2011 | John Eby

Posted on 01/09/2012 2:20:37 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

GREENVILLE, S.C. -- Republican presidential candidates Rick Perry and Rick Santorum campaigned in the Upstate on Sunday.

Santorum made two stops in Greenville at Chiefs Wings and Firewater on Congaree Road and at Stax Restaurant on Woodruff Road.

Perry campaigned at the Beacon Drive-In in Spartanburg.

Both candidates have made it clear that their focus is on winning South Carolina while Mitt Romney leads most polls leading into the New Hampshire primary.

"I challenge you to go work in South Carolina in the next two weeks like you've never worked before," Perry urged supporters.

"We've moved down here and we're all in," Santorum told the crowd at Stax.

On policy issues, Perry pledged to try to cut pay for Congress, and supported South Carolina's proposed immigration and voter I.D. laws.

"When I'm the President of the United States you don't have to worry about a Perry administration justice department coming into your state and telling you how to run your state from the standpoint of 'You need a photo I.D. to be able to vote,'" Perry said.

Santorum vowed to repeal No Child Left Behind, despite having voted for it while in office. He also distanced himself from the foreign policy views of rival candidate Ron Paul.

"The bottom line is, I am not a libertarian. I am a conservative. I am a Reagan conservative. I do believe in a strong defense. I do believe we should not cut our military. We need to make it stronger so we are safer," Santorum said.

Both candidates made strong pitches to socially conservative Upstate voters.

"(I have) a record that says that we believe in the dignity and sanctity of every human life. It says that we believe the pillar of our society is the family," Santorum said.

Perry told stories about his upbringing to try to gain a rapport with voters.

"I had all I needed. I had my family that loved me. I had my faith in God. I had a community that took care of each other, and that is what america is really based upon when you really think about it," he said.

At Stax, Santorum accepted the endorsement of Gary Bauer, a social conservative icon and former policy advisor to Ronald Reagan. Bauer even referred to Santorum as "the next Ronald Reagan."

Perry plans to make stops in Anderson and Greenville on Monday.


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U.S. Republican presidential candidate and Texas Governor Rick Perry and his wife Anita give their orders to Tommy Lee Rice (R) during a campaign stop at The Beacon Drive-In in Spartanburg, South Carolina January 8, 2012.


Republican presidential candidate and former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum with his wife Karen, speaks at a Republican Party fundraising dinner in Greenville, South Carolina January 8, 2012.

1 posted on 01/09/2012 2:20:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All; shield

2 posted on 01/09/2012 2:26:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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3 posted on 01/09/2012 2:32:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All
Nov. 11, 2011 VIDEO: Rick Perry interview Nov 11, 2011 in Columbia 25 minute video – starting around 4:00 – 12:00 Perry speaks at length about Iran, allies and national defense.


4 posted on 01/09/2012 2:36:49 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All

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New Hampshire debate: Perry recalls three agencies to cheers (video) [1:00]

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Best moment of the debate

-- outside of Perry calling Obama a socialist [1:18]

5 posted on 01/09/2012 2:52:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

[quote]At Stax, Santorum accepted the endorsement of Gary Bauer, a social conservative icon and former policy advisor to Ronald Reagan. Bauer even referred to Santorum as “the next Ronald Reagan.”[/quote]

This guy’s estimation of Ronald Reagan must be pretty low then. I have no doubt that Santorum is a good guy. I respect many of his positions; however, most of what he says is rather vapid, or aimed at satisfying itching ears of conservatives. He doesn’t present any substance. He doesn’t propose any “radical” reforms of the system that the other candidates don’t already do; and compared to the other candidates, his “reforms” are lackluster.

A vote for Santorum is like a vote for the Generic Republican that sometimes goes head to head against Obama in Presidential polls. In fact, he’d probably be more popular if his name was actually Generic Republican.

I see Santorum’s rise as merely a consequence of a desperation vote; and now that he has this “surge”, conservatives are bandwagging on him in the same way they got on the Newt Gingrich train perhaps just a few days prior. It has nothing to do with real policy positions. It is merely about a desperate desire to get behind a non-Romney candidate for fear of Romney getting the nomination.

That is perfectly understandable. But replacing Romney with a Generic Republican isn’t ideal either.

I was for Cain early on until the GOP turned their backs on him and let him fry in those accusations. Perry is the last real conservative standing. Despite the reputation of being weak on illegals, Perry has actually been pretty strong with them. I don’t believe it is a legitimate issue. His record as Governor is incredibly conservative and deserves consideration. He may look and talk like GWB, but he is far more conservative than GWB. He also has the charisma and substance that the other candidates lack.


6 posted on 01/09/2012 3:14:45 AM PST by Apollo5600
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To: Apollo5600

Good points.

Rick Perry is anti-establishment-business as usual, and “they” know it.

D.C. does not want the Perry wreaking ball swinging their way.

Be we should. He will be our voice and work for us.

Perry: “You have my back and I will have yours in Washington D.C.

And he means it.


7 posted on 01/09/2012 3:20:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Looks like Santorum has given up on NH. According to strategists, he should never have gone there. At least if he finishes low he can now say he left the state early.


8 posted on 01/09/2012 3:25:05 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Apollo5600
This guy’s estimation of Ronald Reagan must be pretty low then. I have no doubt that Santorum is a good guy. I respect many of his positions; however, most of what he says is rather vapid, or aimed at satisfying itching ears of conservatives. He doesn’t present any substance. He doesn’t propose any “radical” reforms of the system that the other candidates don’t already do; and compared to the other candidates, his “reforms” are lackluster.

Yeah, heralding Santorum as the 2nd coming of Reagan, is pretty laughable.

Santorum's made himself more than apparent as a big government guy with a collectivist worldview. Santorum is not a conservative. Populist social conservative, yes. But not a conservative. His message is one which will ultimately turn off everyone but diehard SoCons. More than likely, Santorum's presence will spoil the vote to ensure Romney's coronation.

I'd much sooner vote for Perry than I would Santorum. But Perry doesn't seem to be getting any traction, and it's hard to see that he'll be able to reignite any momentum, all things considered about how his candidacy has played out thus far.
9 posted on 01/09/2012 3:33:35 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

:)


10 posted on 01/09/2012 3:39:17 AM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perry, Santorum, or Gingrich are all acceptable to me. I'd vote for any one of them. Mitt Romney, on the other hand, literally disgusts me. I will have a very difficult time voting for him in the very unfortunate situation where he's the nominee. It would be another election where I'm not so much voting for our guy as voting against theirs. Nothing could make Romney palatable to me, not even Governor Palin as his VP.
11 posted on 01/09/2012 3:57:18 AM PST by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do it. Try good instead!)
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To: Apollo5600

At this point, I’m not keen on bashing any of the remaining conservatives. You don’t have to tear down Santorum to save Perry. All conservatives should focus on Romney. He’s the real threat.


12 posted on 01/09/2012 4:00:36 AM PST by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do it. Try good instead!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I hope Perry gains some traction in SC. I know it’s hard for him to do with the entire establishment against him. Even the Washington congress critters hate the idea of him coming into DC and cleaning house. He is exactly what we need in there.


13 posted on 01/09/2012 4:48:00 AM PST by McGavin999 ("If you'll have my back when I go to Washington, I'll have yours" Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Utmost Certainty
I'd much sooner vote for Perry than I would Santorum. But Perry doesn't seem to be getting any traction, and it's hard to see that he'll be able to reignite any momentum, all things considered about how his candidacy has played out thus far.-- by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)

.....She would have made the perfect wife if only she hadn't worn that hairdo on our first date.....

Gingrich has a lot of baggage "Utmost Certainty."

14 posted on 01/09/2012 4:50:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: McGavin999

The GOP Establishment certainly sees Perry as a threat.

They can’t smear him and make it stick, so they have decided to ridicule Perry (when they do talk about him) trying to marginalize him long enough for Romney to take enough delegates.

We must not stand for it.

It’s especially disgusting when conservatives join the “beat-down.”


15 posted on 01/09/2012 5:08:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The best Bar B Q in the world is Maurice Bessingers Piggy Park Bar B Q.

Unfortunately Maurice had to pull his famous Carolina Gold sauce out of the grocery stores because he was a supporter of the noble Confederate Battle flag. Pure Leftist evil and petulant PC caused him financial troubles but the quality of his product kept him affluent.

If any of the candidates were to stop by a Piggy Park franchise for lunch they would not only garner new respect but some extra votes—and the Left will rupture themselves in glorious umbrage!

But none of them have the guts.

16 posted on 01/09/2012 5:18:28 AM PST by Happy Rain ("If Mitt wins the Twit wins.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Go Rick! Go Rick! Go Newt! One of them HAVE to win the nomination or we are in deep trouble! I am too the point where I don’t care which one of the three wins this thing. If we have Romney, we are in deep trouble and most likely will have Obama for another 4 years. Of course Romney for 4 years would be a disaster too.


17 posted on 01/09/2012 5:32:21 AM PST by napscoordinator (Go Rick! Go Rick! Go Newt! Let's get 'er done.)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Yeah, heralding Santorum as the 2nd coming of Reagan, is pretty laughable.

I think 3 of them could be the next Ronald Reagan after 4 years of Obama. I mean Reagan was not all that conservative as Governor of California. It was not until he became President that he became a great conservative. It is possible that Rick, Rick or Newt could easily become the Ronald Reagan at least his principles. I don’t see any of those 3 become Carter, Clinton or Obama.


18 posted on 01/09/2012 5:35:38 AM PST by napscoordinator (Go Rick! Go Rick! Go Newt! Let's get 'er done.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; jonrick46; deepbluesea; TexMom7; potlatch; SunkenCiv; wolfcreek; BuckeyeTexan; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

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19 posted on 01/09/2012 5:51:53 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: shield

Rick Perry can do just one thing in South Carolina, and that is help Mitt Romney win. He can if he is really fortunate peel 4 or 5 points from Newt and another 3 or 4 from Rick S. giving him a total of about 15 - 17 percent. That is if he does really really well. On the other hand if he got behind Newt he could add his 5 to Newts 23, and along with Rick S. 14, they could beat Romney. It is time to stop dreaming and come back to the real world before it is too late. Kinda like the Fred heads learned the hard way in South Carolina in 08 when they help elect Mr. McCain. Same story here.


20 posted on 01/09/2012 6:00:02 AM PST by david1313 (Newt all the way)
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To: fatima

:)


21 posted on 01/09/2012 6:02:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: david1313
Rick Perry can do just one thing in South Carolina, and that is help Mitt Romney win.....

There you are again noobie hitting all the threads to help Newt.

Cute.

22 posted on 01/09/2012 6:04:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Apollo5600

I couldn’t agree with you more. I loved Bush but Perry is far more conservative.

As to Rick Santorum, his core values seem to be mutable.

He panders to whatever state he’s in. He pandered to the ethanol subsidies in Iowa.

He pandered to the union voters in New Hampshire (anti right to work - though he tried to spin it later)

He doesn’t look like a president or act like one. His surge was based on one caucus and it doesn’t look as though he’ll be able to maintain it.

As to Newt ... well, that’s a whole other story.

I just hope South Carlolina will wake up.


23 posted on 01/09/2012 6:09:03 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: CitizenUSA

Yeah, we’ve been urged to do that by our fearless leader, but it doesn’t totally work in real life (is this real life? I hope so because I’m here a lot)

We can’t be faulted for noting ways in which Perry is vastly superior to Santorum and we can’t do that without explaining Santorum’s various shortcomings.

I always conclude by vowing to vote for whoever is standing at the end to defeat Romney. I don’t think it will be Santorum.


24 posted on 01/09/2012 6:14:58 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: david1313

In the words of another great Texan (for a while) Don Meredith,

“If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas.”

Everyone thinks we should abandon OUR candidate and support theirs.

As long as Rick Perry is fighting and has a chance I will support him.

If he doesn’t make it, I will reluctantly vote for another candidate, but it won’t be Romney.


25 posted on 01/09/2012 6:18:53 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, Newt is the candidate I think can actually win. Seems you hit all the thread for Mr. Perry. I am ok with that. What shoud I call you? Oldie? It is very funny to me that because someone has posted through the years on a particular site somehow they feel it important to point out when someone (they think is new) comes on to say they have not been around long. So this must mean they don’t know what they re talking about. Interesting argument.


26 posted on 01/09/2012 6:19:49 AM PST by david1313 (Newt all the way)
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To: david1313

Keep bumping the threads and you’ll be welcome!

From an “oldie but a goodie.”


27 posted on 01/09/2012 6:22:32 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: david1313

Ordinarily I dislike it when people resort to using the term ‘newbie.’

But you have suddenly joined this forum to promote one viewpoint and one candidate.

To add to that, you have kind of insulted CW who is a long-time faithful Perry supporter and well known for posting Perry threads.

You got a problem with that? Stay off of them.


28 posted on 01/09/2012 6:23:42 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: david1313
Complete and total BS.

Rick Perry: a Second Look

Time for a Perry surge

29 posted on 01/09/2012 6:25:35 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: david1313

Huckabee had more to do with us getting McCain than Fred did.


30 posted on 01/09/2012 6:28:59 AM PST by maxter (Election is THIS year. Make it count.)
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To: altura

I have no problem sir. Why is it when a long-time faithful Perry supporter calls me a name it is not insulting. Good grief. Yes I am promoting the person I think can win, Newt. Are you saying that she is not supporting just one person, Perry. I don’t like double standards. And I will hit this thread again for her. I will be glad to support any of the candidate over Obama, except Paul or Romney. And I am cute.


31 posted on 01/09/2012 6:31:51 AM PST by david1313 (Newt all the way)
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To: maxter

yeah right, keep believing that and we will get stuck with Romney.


32 posted on 01/09/2012 6:35:02 AM PST by david1313 (Newt all the way)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My reason no. 2 to support Gov. Rick Perry is that Gov. Perry is an Air Force veteran. Perry flew C-130s in Central and South America, North Africa and all over Europe, including Iran. Perry retired in 1977 with the rank of Captain.


33 posted on 01/09/2012 6:36:48 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Apollo5600
I am greatly troubled by Santorum's protection of unions. He filibustered "right-to-work" legislation.

It will not be possible to get this country back on the right track to prosperity and and job creation while allowing unions to kill jobs.

34 posted on 01/09/2012 6:40:01 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Hi CGG!

Perry has stature in so many areas.


35 posted on 01/09/2012 6:41:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Rick Perry is a fine and honorable man, and if nominated I will support him and work for him in Texas. I honestly hope you guys are right, I just don’t see it. On the other hand, I am quite sure Newt will give Obama more than he can handle. I’ll carry Newt’s baggage for him if I have to.


36 posted on 01/09/2012 6:42:06 AM PST by david1313 (Newt all the way)
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To: Utmost Certainty
My reason no. 3 to vote for Perry is that Perry has signed pro-life legislation that defunded Planned Parenthood in TX with the result that 12 PPs have closed.

Perry also signed legislation requiring a parent's consent for a minor to have an abortion.

37 posted on 01/09/2012 6:43:18 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: david1313
And I will hit this thread again for her. ....And I am cute.

Bump!

38 posted on 01/09/2012 6:45:18 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: CitizenUSA
It would be another election where I'm not so much voting for our guy as voting against theirs.

That's what I'll be doing and I'll be doing it rather enthusiastically as Obama is a 100% disaster and I'd rather go into this thinking that at least we have a chance with Romney where we know we have no chance with Obama.

Folks, Obama is really that bad--we cannot allow him to be reelected.

39 posted on 01/09/2012 6:46:23 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think I like you. And I am Joys’ husband. I guess in my excitement to support Newt I come accross as being very negative toward the others. I really should not do that. Sorry.


40 posted on 01/09/2012 6:48:42 AM PST by david1313 (Newt all the way)
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To: david1313

Well, you seem to have a problem.

One problem is that you think I am a sir.

I am a lady, most of the time.

If you are referring to the term, newbie, perhaps in your case it should be newtbie, it is a common insult around these parts.

If someone comes on Free Republic and suddenly starts trying to make waves and we see a sign up date of last week, we suspect an agenda.

You have an agenda and, to your credit, you have avowed your support for Gingrich. A lot of people come on Perry threads and won’t admit who they support.

As to cute, I’d need to see a picture. And not one from 20 years ago like the one I always use.


41 posted on 01/09/2012 6:49:31 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: david1313

I’m sorry too. I’ve been fighting the real hard-core types.

Here’s to a one term Obama!


42 posted on 01/09/2012 6:52:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

But, grandma, didn’t you see Obama on television this morning.

The man’s hair has turned white because he’s fought so hard for us.

It really gives him an odd look, like an ancient family retainer (if I can say that without being accused of something)


43 posted on 01/09/2012 6:52:51 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Obama is bad, Romney is potentially worse and far more dangerous. Since Obama is a democrat it will be easier to confort him, it will not be so easy with a Republican Romney. Have you researched the type of judges he appointed in Mass. Far to the left of any Obama would get away with. If you think Romney will repeal Obamacare then that is a pipe dream. Hew will find a way to be friendly to ‘parts’ of it thereby insuring it stays in place. His economic recovery plan is much like Obamas and he WILL KEEP SPENDING MONEY AND TAX YOU!!!!


44 posted on 01/09/2012 6:53:18 AM PST by david1313 (Newt all the way)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; david1313

Yes, if you knew the kind of crap we’ve had to put up with on Perry threads for the last couple of months, you’d understand why we get a little prickly and defensive.

But, a belated welcome. Freep on.


45 posted on 01/09/2012 6:56:13 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura

Sorry but my wife doesn’t allow me to send pics, even nice ones. LOL. sorry about calling you a sir. And yes, I do have an agenda, just like most everyone here. Mine is to defeat Obama, and I believe the best and possilby only one that can do it is Newt.


46 posted on 01/09/2012 6:57:29 AM PST by david1313 (Newt all the way)
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To: david1313

I have no problem with anything you said.


47 posted on 01/09/2012 6:59:05 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: altura
One problem is that you think I am a sir.

People do that to me all the time too...LOL

It must be if you are in for the fight, you must be a man ;)

48 posted on 01/09/2012 7:00:20 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (We Can Take OUR Country Back--Perry 2012)
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To: david1313
Romney is potentially worse and far more dangerous.

Sorry, I do not buy this for one minute. I do not believe Romney is more dangerous than Obama. Sorry.

49 posted on 01/09/2012 7:02:35 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: david1313

I believe Perry would make a far better president, but if he can’t gain some traction, Newt will be my second choice.

Newt has a lot of faults, but he does have a great intellect and I believe he is sincere even if some of his many positions seem to contradict each other.

I’ve always liked Newt, even when everyone here hated him.

He is head and shoulders better than Santorum, in my opinion.


50 posted on 01/09/2012 7:06:34 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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