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Pope: homosexual ‘marriage’ threatens ‘the future of humanity’
LifeSiteNews ^ | 1/9/12 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 01/09/2012 3:47:05 PM PST by wagglebee

VATICAN CITY, January 9, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In his annual address to ambassadors to the Vatican today, Pope Benedict XVI warned that laws permitting abortion and undermining the traditional family are threatening “the future of humanity.” Speaking particularly of the West, the Holy Father said, “I am convinced that legislative measures which not only permit but at times even promote abortion for reasons of convenience or for questionable medical motives compromise the education of young people and, as a result, the future of humanity.”

Similarly, the pope spoke of “the family, based on the marriage of a man and a woman,” noting that it “is not a simple social convention, but rather the fundamental cell of every society.” He added: “Consequently, policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself.”

Benedict noted the ‘dark times’ we are living in currently due to economic and social unrest. “The present moment is sadly marked by a profound disquiet and the various crises – economic, political and social – are a dramatic expression of this,” he said. “Truly the world is dark wherever men and women no longer acknowledge their bond with the Creator and thereby endanger their relation to other creatures and to creation itself.”

As a solution the Holy Father proposed keeping upholding the dignity and rights of the person.  “(I)t seems evident to me that the best way to move forward is through the recognition of the inalienable dignity of each human person and of his or her fundamental rights,” he said. “Respect for the person must be at the centre of institutions and laws; it must lead to the end of all violence and forestall the risk that due concern for popular demands and the need for social solidarity turn into mere means for maintaining or seizing power.”

See the Pope’s full address here.


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KEYWORDS: catholic; culturewars; endtimes; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; moralabsolutes; samesexmarriage
Similarly, the pope spoke of “the family, based on the marriage of a man and a woman,” noting that it “is not a simple social convention, but rather the fundamental cell of every society.” He added: “Consequently, policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself.”

Exactly!

1 posted on 01/09/2012 3:47:09 PM PST by wagglebee
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3 posted on 01/09/2012 3:49:22 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Nice to hear some common sense once and a while, no?


4 posted on 01/09/2012 3:54:20 PM PST by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
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To: wagglebee

This can never be overstated.


5 posted on 01/09/2012 3:56:05 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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6 posted on 01/09/2012 3:57:51 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: wagglebee

Refreshing to hear.

Unfortunately, what seems like such common sense and knowledge to us (literally one of the most “DUH” things ever)just isn’t seen that way by the evil/libreal/mis-guided of the world.

It is very easy for them to imagine a human race without families or anything like that, no father, no mother, no siblings.

You see, they have a VERY VERY easy time imagining (and wishing) a society where we are made like products, and that each product has a life-cycle, and we just go through those.

Born, development, work, research, death.

Think the rooms of clone troops and how they showed them being raised in Attack of the Clones (Star Wars 2). That is the best example I can provide. To the left, that is where they not only want to go, but the logical “next step.”

It isn’t that hard of a stretch to see humanity arranging itself in that way, which is why they are so easily confident saying a basic truth like this statement is “ridiculous” or “backward.”

It is sad. Yet another irreconcilable difference between us and them.

Those instances grow by the day...... not. looking. good. for peace in the long-term on this planet.


7 posted on 01/09/2012 3:59:59 PM PST by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
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To: wagglebee

He is right. what next, 3 person “marriages”? “Marriages” with kids? 4 person “marriages”? I mean the term “marriage” implies 1 man 1 woman. “Marriages” within the same consanguity?

2 same sex doesn’t even come close. If they want to live together, fine. If it’s all about the insurance and being in the hospital room, there are ways to get that done.


8 posted on 01/09/2012 4:00:50 PM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: wagglebee

““the family, based on the marriage of a man and a woman,” noting that it “is not a simple social convention, but rather the fundamental cell of every society.””

The state should not dictate that children be denied either a mother or a father through homosexual marriage.


9 posted on 01/09/2012 4:03:30 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: wagglebee

Yes-—Homosexual “marriage” fundamentally removes the Christian paradigm—destroys Judeo/Christian Ethics and Common Sense and Natural Law Theory-—(where common sense originates). Natural Law Theory is the underlying philosophy of our Constitution—so destroying marriage will destroy our Constitution and The Rule of Law.

With “homosexual marriage” you can no longer have the basis of Just Law: Right Reason according to Nature. We will remove God’s Standards of Right and Wrong and adopt barney Frank’s stupid standard——it is moral relativism and will end up with Nuremberg Laws.


10 posted on 01/09/2012 4:05:20 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature=Just Law.)
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To: wagglebee

If all the smart people abort their babies... and all the dumb people breed like rabbits... then yes, the future of mankind really would be at stake


11 posted on 01/09/2012 4:07:45 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: wagglebee
This debate on same sex marriage is part of the bigger picture expressed in this statement by the Pope:

"In other parts of the world, we see policies aimed at marginalizing the role of religion in the life of society, as if it were a cause of intolerance rather than a valued contribution to education in respect for human dignity, justice and peace."

Newt touched on the same theme:

“The bigotry question goes both ways and there’s a lot more anti-Christian bigotry today than there is concerning the other side, and none of it gets covered by the news media.”

“Should the Catholic church be forced to close its adoption services in Massachusetts because it won’t accept gay couples, which is exactly what the state has done? Should the Catholic church be driven out of providing charitable services in the District of Columbia because it won’t give in to secular bigotry? Should the Catholic church find itself discriminated against by the Obama administration on key delivery of services because of the bias and the bigotry of the administration?”

12 posted on 01/09/2012 4:07:51 PM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: wagglebee

“Now, since the family and human society at large spring from marriage, these men will on no account allow matrimony to be the subject of the jurisdiction of the Church. Nay, they endeavor to deprive it of all holiness, and so bring it within the contracted sphere of those rights which, having been instituted by man, are ruled and administered by the civil jurisprudence of the community. Wherefore it necessarily follows that they attribute all power over marriage to civil rulers, and allow none whatever to the Church; and, when the Church exercises any such power, they think that she acts either by favor of the civil authority or to its injury. Now is the time, they say, for the heads of the State to vindicate their rights unflinchingly, and to do their best to settle all that relates to marriage according as to them seems good.”

—Pope Leo XIII, almost 132 years ago.

It was always a danger to have the state involved, at least in modern times, because the institution will be treated as whatever judges, pols or a majority of folks happen to think it is at the time, instead of what it actually is. A recent poll has 40% of folks thinking marriage comes from man and the state, because they have been conditioned to think little pieces of paper from the gubberment makes folks married or not.

Freegards


13 posted on 01/09/2012 4:13:22 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: wagglebee

Right but also does islam as well as communism .

It will be time to give names


14 posted on 01/09/2012 4:17:04 PM PST by Ulysse (a)
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To: yldstrk
He is right. what next, 3 person “marriages”?

I have been saying for years that if there is nothing special about marriage being between a man and a woman; than, what is so special about the number two. You cannot utterly change the meaning of marriage for just one special interest group. Once that dam is broken, everything comes in.

15 posted on 01/09/2012 4:17:50 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: wagglebee

I propose to get the government completely out of a church function-marriage is a sacrament given by God, not the state. Marriages should only be performed by clergy and thats it. No need to redefine it.

And the Churches need to educate those getting married a lot better than they have been. Make the counseling more rigorous and in depth. Ensure practicing the faith prior to the marriage- church attendance etc before marrying a couple. This is not a trivial undertaking, it is a vow, a covenant with God and another person. Leave the “say yes to the dress” and “bridezillas” to the civil commitment ceremonies the state can offer in lieu of marriage to those not marriage minded but wedding minded.


16 posted on 01/09/2012 4:18:51 PM PST by wombtotomb
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To: wagglebee

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LLS


17 posted on 01/09/2012 4:23:43 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (obamao... ...the bastard son of a hippie slut and a drunk communist British Kenyan!)
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To: LibertarianLiz

yep, I agree We could even get to the point of marriages with animals...........


18 posted on 01/09/2012 4:29:56 PM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: wagglebee
He added: “Consequently, policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself.”

So why then do the Pope, Bishops and priests accept the pro-abortion politics of Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry and Mario Cuomo? Do political donations to the Catholic Church trump Catholic doctrine?

19 posted on 01/09/2012 4:35:17 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest

mamadearest, the Pope certainly does not accept it. American bishops and priests take the cake when it comes to “living with contradictions” as the Kennedys like to put it.


20 posted on 01/09/2012 4:44:32 PM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: wagglebee
The cat in the pointy hat gets one rat.
21 posted on 01/09/2012 4:45:50 PM PST by Happy Rain ("If Mitt wins the Twit wins.")
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To: wagglebee
Mirage is a blood covenant between a man and woman accomplished on the wedding night. Gay couples can never accomplish this.
22 posted on 01/09/2012 4:45:50 PM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: MamaDearest; wagglebee
I think you can leave Pope Benedict out of the blame loop here, because (contrary to what some people think) he does not have unilateral, dictatorial power over the Church; but in the case of Bishops, yes, the question: why don't they at least exclude pro-abort pols from Communion, which is required by Canon Law (Canon 915)?.

The pope appointed Cardinal Raymond Burke to the Apostolic Signatura (Catholic equiv. of the Supreme Court) and Burke said these pro-aborts MUST be excluded from Communion. Here's the ruling (Link); to spare you the chore of reading the whole thing, I've highlighted the word "must" for easy comprehension.

How Bishops can get away with violating Canon Law just floors me. It is the worst degree of deadly scandal and subversion.

23 posted on 01/09/2012 4:59:23 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Dry understatements free of charge, one per customer until supplies are exhausted.)
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To: Reddy
The state should not dictate that children be denied either a mother or a father through homosexual marriage.

Please explain your statement more clearly or please give an example of what you mean. Thanks.

24 posted on 01/09/2012 5:03:56 PM PST by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

[ Think the rooms of clone troops and how they showed them being raised in Attack of the Clones (Star Wars 2). That is the best example I can provide. To the left, that is where they not only want to go, but the logical “next step.” ]

Very much in the vein of “Brave New World”

If similar tech comes about I think the right needs to fight fire with fire, we could put planned parenthood out of business in the process too.

Here is my plan.

The conservatives should covertly open up “abortion centers” (not really abortion centers) that are either free or that actually pay the woman wanting the abortion. (this will put PP out of business)

The Fetuses/ premature babies are extracted still living and placed in a growth acceleration / gestation tank. While they grow a special neural interface programs the growing children with the values and conscience of a conservative along with an individual identity and actually usable life skills to boot, Reading, Writing, and ‘Rrithmatic.

Identity papers are created and when the individual is release from the tank in a few months they sign an agreement to pay back tot he center for “saving them” this is seen as a “life debt” by the programming. Or they also help open more centers like this as a “life calling”.

Eventually we will outnumber them all 10 to 1 and those Liberal Professors who say we are a Democracy....

“THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE” as the saved children work to restore the Republic and kick the commie scum out of the country after we outnumber them 10 to 1.

If the Left ever gets “Clone Wars” tech then it should be easy enough to subvert it and use it to OUR advantage while saving the lives of children who would otherwise be murdered/aborted.


25 posted on 01/09/2012 5:22:41 PM PST by GraceG
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To: wagglebee

The Pope is a hater! Hate Speech! Hate Speech!

Of course, speaking obvious truth is now hate speech, so this should not be surprising.


26 posted on 01/09/2012 5:32:46 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: frogjerk; Reddy

I was wondering the same thing.


27 posted on 01/09/2012 5:34:22 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: wagglebee

Way to go Pope.


28 posted on 01/09/2012 5:45:28 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: wagglebee

Someone once said we should support gay marriage... that way in 3 generations mosr all of the Democrats would disappear.


29 posted on 01/09/2012 6:07:49 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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30 posted on 01/09/2012 6:12:18 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Not just the libs. Many GOP are just fine with this.


31 posted on 01/09/2012 6:29:10 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Not just the libs. Many GOP are just fine with this.


32 posted on 01/09/2012 6:29:24 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Not just the libs. Many GOP are just fine with this.


33 posted on 01/09/2012 6:29:44 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
(Cardinal) Burke said these pro-aborts MUST be excluded from Communion.

Hooray for the Cardinal. Finally someone within the Church who demands respect for doctrine. I hope Pelosi, et al are chastised loudly for their stance on abortion and on same-sex marriage (about which the Pope spoke). Respect for the Church, its leaders and doctrine is on the line. Simply denouncing something (or someone because they flaunt the Church's rules) is appeasement to the people who are immoral and uncaring about Church teachings.

34 posted on 01/09/2012 6:38:40 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: frogjerk

Explain what? A State should not legalize homosexual marriage because then it would be codifying that children would be denied either a mother or a father. Not sure how to explain it more.


35 posted on 01/09/2012 8:29:06 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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36 posted on 01/09/2012 8:34:00 PM PST by narses
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To: wombtotomb
I propose to get the government completely out

Bad idea. The state owes recognition to marriage, first because it's a prior institution that existed before any state, and second, because marriage promotes social goals essential to the health of the state. For the state to de-privilege marriage (we're talking about REAL marriage here) would be a step backwards.

37 posted on 01/10/2012 8:07:32 AM PST by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: Romulus

The headline quotes him saying something he didn’t say. Where in the first five paragraphs do the words “Homosexual Marriage” appear?


38 posted on 01/10/2012 11:37:40 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Romulus

The headline quotes him saying something he didn’t say. Where in the first five paragraphs do the words “Homosexual Marriage” appear?


39 posted on 01/10/2012 11:37:56 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: MamaDearest
I agree with you 100%. It's a real battle right here inside the Church.

We will never give up! For Christ's sake! Never!

40 posted on 01/10/2012 1:25:25 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I agree with you 100%. It's a real battle right here inside the Church.

Thank you. My uncle was a Jesuit, my aunt was a Sister of Notre Dame. They died years ago and would be shocked and appalled to see the Church as it is today.

41 posted on 01/10/2012 5:17:22 PM PST by MamaDearest
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