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New Hampshire lawmakers question Obama’s citizenship
Washington Times ^ | 1/9/12 | Dave Boyer

Posted on 01/09/2012 6:12:43 PM PST by Nachum

CONCORD, N.H. | President Obama is on the Democratic ballot for New Hampshire’s primary on Tuesday, despite the efforts of some Republican state legislators who argue the president doesn’t qualify as a “natural-born citizen.” “I don’t know where he was born, and I really don’t care,” said state Rep. Larry Rappaport of Colebrook, N.H., “but I think fraud is being perpetrated on the citizens of New Hampshire.” Mr. Rappaport and several GOP colleagues have been trying to get the New Hampshire secretary of state to remove Mr. Obama from the ballot. Their argument isn’t focused

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; citizenship; conman; lawmakers; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamas; question
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1 posted on 01/09/2012 6:12:55 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 01/09/2012 6:14:14 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
STOP14

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3 posted on 01/09/2012 6:14:51 PM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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4 posted on 01/09/2012 6:16:03 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Nachum

“I don’t know where he was born, and I really don’t care,” said state Rep. Larry Rappaport of Colebrook, N.H., “

This bozo, whether he is an R or a D, should care deeply!


5 posted on 01/09/2012 6:19:07 PM PST by Mr. Wright (N\)
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To: Nachum

Good effort, but Obama is not going anywhere. Either we defeat him this year in a fair election, or we suffer another four years of this crap followed by President Michelle or something.


6 posted on 01/09/2012 6:23:14 PM PST by BurningOak
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To: Nachum; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; ...
Ping
7 posted on 01/09/2012 6:23:26 PM PST by null and void (Day 1083 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Nachum
Just curious under the definition of nbc what is the answer for a us citizenks status that is adopted and their birth parents identities are unknown and sealed?
8 posted on 01/09/2012 6:24:26 PM PST by JIM O
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To: Mr. Wright
This bozo, whether he is an R or a D, should care deeply!

This bozo is an (R)

Hun frick in be leave a bull

9 posted on 01/09/2012 6:26:19 PM PST by null and void (Day 1083 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Mr. Wright
Besides that...when he said “I don’t know where he was born, and I really don’t care,” he actually confirmed that he DOES NOT believe that Birth Certificate that Obama magically had prepared in response to Trump's pressure. If nothing else, Trump forced Obama to do something after years of ignoring the question in the minds of Americans. And, IMHO, I believe that what he did was to have a phony BC produced.
10 posted on 01/09/2012 6:27:35 PM PST by CitizenM (Obama's legacy will be to be remembered as The architect of the decline of the USA)
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To: BurningOak

fair? fair would be great... of course we are talking about democrats

but the FIRST step in having a fair election would be...

QUALIFYING TO BE ON THE BALLOT

kind of the whole point


11 posted on 01/09/2012 6:28:59 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Nachum
Whatever his real birth-citizenship status is there is absolute proof that he committed a fraud on the American people by showing them a horrible hack job of a computer-generated long form birth certificate.

Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof 1 ( Layers )

12 posted on 01/09/2012 6:31:22 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: BobP

The face of abject EVIL.


13 posted on 01/09/2012 6:31:31 PM PST by izzatzo ( Anybody but Obamney or Huntsman.)
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To: sten

I would love to see Obama dragged out of the White House in handcuffs, and to see every law he ever signed reversed.

That said, we all know this will never happen, so might as well accept the world as is, and work to keep Romney off the ballot so we can later vote Obama out.


14 posted on 01/09/2012 6:39:42 PM PST by BurningOak
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To: BurningOak

Never say never.


15 posted on 01/09/2012 6:47:12 PM PST by null and void (Day 1083 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: JIM O
“Just curious under the definition of nbc what is the answer for a us citizenks status that is adopted and their birth parents identities are unknown and sealed?”

SCOTUS has not ruled on the eligibility of any specific person to be president under a definition of NBC. No challenge to any presidential candidate has ever reached them, IIRC. Judges to have a magic power called "nunc pro tunc" meaning "now for then" under which that can declare current events, such as adoptions, to have happened retroactively, for example at birth. This could make adoptive citizen parents the legal birth parents and they could supplant foreign citizen biological parents and thus the baby, if born in the US could possibly be considered NBC. We just won't know until/unless SCOTUS hears such a case.

16 posted on 01/09/2012 6:48:50 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: BurningOak

out of his CURRENT position is one thing

being on the ballot for the upcoming election is a whole different thing

wth is wrong with people? either the rules apply or they don’t

and last I checked... there is no severability clause in the Constitution.

so which is it? adhere to the qualifications spelled out in the Constitution... or no tax revenue?

after all... the only legal document ALLOWING the federal government to expect tax revenue is the Constitution.

toss one part... you toss it all


17 posted on 01/09/2012 6:53:00 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Nachum

Ping.......please.


18 posted on 01/09/2012 7:15:00 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: Mr. Wright
He's saying place of birth is not the issue:

Mr. Rappaport and several GOP colleagues have been trying to get the New Hampshire secretary of state to remove Mr. Obama from the ballot. Their argument isn’t focused on the old question of the president’s birthplace, but on a clause in the U.S. Constitution that requires a candidate to be a “natural-born citizen.”

19 posted on 01/09/2012 7:16:29 PM PST by rake ("more rubble, less trouble" VD Hanson)
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To: CitizenM

Birth Certificate-Very Interesting

It was brought to light that back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes.’ So how can this ‘birth certificate’ state he is ‘African-American’ when the term wasn’t even used back then??

This isn’t over!

This is interesting!

Here is a comment from a reader to George Ure at UrbanSurvival.com:

“As you all know, Donald Trump made a big deal about Obama’s birth certificate.

As of yesterday, the White House released the birth certificate..

I will tell you right now that I had never given this “birther” issue any credit. I watched the hype and the crazies come out. I completely dismissed the entire ordeal altogether.

In fact, it was not until the White House released the birth certificate that it had gained my attention.

I am the studious sort of guy, and I have plenty of time on my hands. So, I took a close look at this
document.

While I would have thought that this issue would have been closed for good (and, got the crazies to crawl back into their holes),

I found two extremely strange inconsistencies that merit some attention.

First of all, the birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right?

At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father
was born in “Kenya, East Africa”.

This wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have
been born in a country that did not yet exist?

Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the “British East Africa Protectorate”. But, this is not the only thing that I found that just does not jive.

The other item that I looked into was the hospital that Obama was born in.

On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”.

This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively.

The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged.

How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

Go ahead, look it up. I am not talking crazy talk, these are the facts. Like I said, I thought that this was a non-issue until the actual certificate was released.

Now that it has been released, of course I had to look into it. I have found these issues, now I know that something is up. If you doubt me, just look at the following resources:

Sure as heck, the hospital part is true, as you can read about the 1978 merger here.

http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx

Post-colonial history (from Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya

The first direct elections for Africans to the Legislative Council took place in 1957.

Despite British hopes of handing power to
“moderate” African rivals, it was the Kenya African National Union (KANU) of Jomo Kenyatta that
formed a government shortly before Kenya became independent on 12 December 1963, on the same day forming the first Constitution of Kenya.


20 posted on 01/09/2012 7:24:42 PM PST by Mr. Wright (N\)
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To: null and void
“On the one hand, it’s hard to take it seriously,” Mr. Buckley said. “But they ought to be focusing on jobs and the economy and the things real Americans care about.”

Yeah, "real Americans" can't walk and chew gum can they, Mr. Buckley....you jerk.

21 posted on 01/09/2012 7:27:53 PM PST by azishot
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To: rake

The whole place of birth question and the questions around the document supplied by the WH are just red herrings used to confuse ignorant people and ridicule opponents. The only question that matters is whether or not zero is NBC and based on his own version of the (phony) BC, he is not because his father was not a citizen.


22 posted on 01/09/2012 7:32:44 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: paul51

Indeed.


23 posted on 01/09/2012 7:39:18 PM PST by rake ("more rubble, less trouble" VD Hanson)
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To: Nachum

Because no one is able to produce his actual birth certificate, nor any passport applications for this clown, shouldn’t the issue be that his father is a confirmed foreigner and therefore, that means he’s not a natural born citizen? I think the birth place is an unprovable distraction and we should nail him on the obvious unconstitutionality of his heritage.


24 posted on 01/09/2012 7:42:06 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Nachum
Comments from Danae from:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2830605/posts?q=1&;page=51

"Minor v. Happersett is LAW. It has never been overturned - the case was decided unanimously. This law states simply that a Natural Born Citizen is one born in the country with two parents who are it's citizens. This LAW means that Obama is a criminal usurper.

He should be dealt with as such, along with his SCOTUS appointees (who are DESPERATE I am sure to bury this and keep their lifetime seats on the court - yes, they should be tossed out as well), his treaties, and his abomination of laws passed along with all the department heads he appointed.

Make no mistake, this is a constitutional crisis. I have been saying this since before the cretin was elected and sworn in. It will only get worse,and be done unto us again if we do not demand that the law be OBEYED."

25 posted on 01/09/2012 7:44:15 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: null and void

Doesn’t Mark Levin say the same thing?


26 posted on 01/09/2012 7:49:50 PM PST by STJPII
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To: izzatzo

And that’s Obama standing on his left. :-D


27 posted on 01/09/2012 7:53:21 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: BurningOak

New to FreeRepublic?-Jan 5, 2012...welcome.

It MAY happen.


28 posted on 01/09/2012 7:54:56 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: paul51

“JUSTIA.COM SURGICALLY REMOVED “MINOR v HAPPERSETT” FROM 25 SUPREME COURT OPINIONS IN RUN UP TO ’08 ELECTION.”

snip-”New evidence conclusively establishes that 25 U.S. Supreme Court opinions were sabotaged...”

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/justia-com-surgically-removed-minor-v-happersett-from-25-supreme-court-opinions-in-run-up-to-08-election/


29 posted on 01/09/2012 8:03:49 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mr. Wright
“I don’t know where he was born, and I really don’t care,” said state Rep. Larry Rappaport of Colebrook, N.H., “

This bozo, whether he is an R or a D, should care deeply!

The excerpted article doesn't help with reading comprehension.

From the source:

"Their argument isn’t focused on the old question of the president’s birthplace, but on a clause in the U.S. Constitution that requires a candidate to be a “natural-born citizen.”

I think it's fair to say that he cares about the eligibility issue, just not on the basis of the BC. The real issue, and it's not contested, is that BO's father was African. That means, that under certain interpretations of the law, that BO is not an NBC.

This also opens up the whole issue of some surgical editing that took place at justia.com of a certain case (Minor v. Happersett) that deals specifically with the NBC definition.

30 posted on 01/09/2012 8:04:39 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: TigersEye

Bump for later viewing.


31 posted on 01/09/2012 8:05:22 PM PST by voicereason (Dems, Pubbies...too often a one-sided coin.)
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To: Nachum
From: 4 Supreme Court Cases define "natural born citizen"

Conclusion: "Finally it should be noted, that to define a term is to indicate the category or class of things which it signifies. In this sense, the Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

Hence every U.S. Citizen must accept this definition or categorical designation, and fulfil his constitutional duties accordingly. No member of Congress, no judge of the Federal Judiciary, no elected or appointed official in Federal or State government has the right to use any other definition; and if he does, he is acting unlawfully, because unconstitutionally."

Can we all have some standing please so we can go to SCOTUS?

32 posted on 01/09/2012 8:11:02 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Nachum

Well, we can rule out his being an AMERICAN CITIZEN.


33 posted on 01/09/2012 8:26:17 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: BurningOak; All

I seem to remember the same EXACT words being spoken to us ‘crazy birthers’ back in 2007/2008. “We just need to focus on defeating on the THE ISSUES!!!!!”

Yeah, how’s that working out for ya... to quote from Mrs. Palin...


34 posted on 01/09/2012 8:48:58 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Nachum
Mr. Rappaport and his colleagues filed an affidavit last week with the state attorney general to argue that the state isn’t applying election law consistently. But the attorney general’s office said it doesn’t intend to take any action.
Oh, I'm pretty sure that he'll have a change of heart when he finds out that he's fixing to be on the hot seat.
Dumb move.
35 posted on 01/09/2012 8:59:03 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Mr. Wright

Nice stuff. I haven’t seen the last two inaccuracies (nice way of saying flat out lying forgeries) before. Very interesting.


36 posted on 01/09/2012 8:59:03 PM PST by Dartman
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To: BurningOak

Good effort, but Obama is not going anywhere. Either we defeat him this year in a fair election, or we suffer another four years of this crap followed by President Michelle or something.

........................................

You are assuming the election will be fair...


37 posted on 01/09/2012 9:11:44 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Even the Russians took to the streets when the election was stolen, scaring the crap out of their KGB establishment, and Obama is no Putin that’s for sure. He wouldn’t dare, and if he did it would end badly for him.


38 posted on 01/09/2012 9:17:12 PM PST by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: BurningOak

Last I checked Putin hasn’t gone anywhere. And Obama was just given the legal right by Congress to detain any American citizen indefinetly that he deems a threat.


39 posted on 01/09/2012 9:47:50 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: JIM O
They are U.S. citizens.

Natural-born citizen is not a type of citizenship. It is only an eligibility requirement for the U.S. Presidency.

If you are adopted by U.S. citizens, and your BC says you were born in the U.S., I suspect there would be no problem with your becoming President.

However, if you were born in China and adopted by U.S. citizens, there might arise the situation where you could be blackmailed by the Chinese government, who could claim they would kill your biological relatives if you didn't comply with their demands.

I saw colleagues in the Navy denied security clearances because they had relatives in nations that practiced such things.

40 posted on 01/09/2012 11:47:55 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: null and void
Hun frick in be leave a bull

Or, in Japanese: Ahn fleaking barivabaru! :o)

41 posted on 01/10/2012 12:08:17 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome ("Obama" Eligibility: The New Third Rail in Politics)
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To: Mr. Wright
Thanks for putting the information down so clearly. I knew about the “African American” vs the term “Negro” and that alone was enough for me. I had heard something about the rest, but had never had if made clear. I really appreciate this. Perhaps, now, finally that the judge in Georgia (I believe) has determined that this should be heard in court, the truth will come out about the fake BC that Obama and his criminal cronies presented.

In fact it will be quite ironic if Obama’s last attempt to cover up the real facts about his place of birth and heritage actually is what causes those facts to be exposed and validated. I would so love to have justice served concerning this fraud that has been perpetrated on America. This lie has not only been a cunning plot to insert an incompetent, socialist puppet and anti-American in the White House...it has also been an insult to the intelligence of millions of Americans.

42 posted on 01/10/2012 12:12:36 AM PST by CitizenM (Obama's legacy will be to be remembered as The architect of the decline of the USA)
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To: IncPen

interesting #20


43 posted on 01/10/2012 12:26:24 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: TigersEye
"Whatever his real birth-citizenship status is there is absolute proof that he committed a fraud on the American people by showing them a horrible hack job of a computer-generated long form birth certificate. Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof 1 ( Layers )"

Thanks for getting that link out there again. In my opinion, it can't be pointed to enough. I realize that it's already gotten more than 1.2 million views, but I'd like to see it reach 20-30 million or more. I was actually able to post the link on Hot Air the other night and drew (derisive/hostile) feedback from a longtime poster who tried to argue that an article on National Review Online the day after the "birth certificate" image that was posted on WH servers on 27 April 2011 was challenged, debunked the challengers based on the tired (to FRiends who have given this issue more than a cursory inspection) OCR/layers posit. This gave me a great opportunity to rebut this poster's dismissal by pointing out that they obviously did not watch part four of that deconstructive series where Mr. Renshaw demolishes the Optimization/OCR "theory" big-time. Funny, but my detractor had nothing to say in rebuttal after this. Heh.

44 posted on 01/10/2012 12:34:57 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome ("Obama" Eligibility: Don't let 'em (continue to) get away with it.)
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To: Seizethecarp
"This could make adoptive citizen parents the legal birth parents and they could supplant foreign citizen biological parents and thus the baby, if born in the US could possibly be considered NBC. We just won't know until/unless SCOTUS hears such a case. "

While I agree on the second (no SCOTUS ruling is yet extant) part, I wholeheartedly and respectfully dissent with regard to the first posit. Conferring of "NBC status" upon a child via adoption by US citizen parents under nunc pro tunc would still be an operation of law to "magically" confer upon the child said proposed status. Citizens who are born on US soil to US citizens need no such adjustment, as they naturally follow the condition of their parents upon such birth.

Natural Born Citizen status as defined in Minor vs Happersett can only be gained one way: Naturally.

45 posted on 01/10/2012 12:58:14 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome ("Obama" Eligibility: Don't let 'em (continue to) get away with it.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Alright! Way to take it to 'em. :-)

The kid did a brilliant job. He not only knows what he's talking about he knew how to present it so anyone could understand his points. If anyone were going to shoot down his presentation they would have done it by now. IMO he nailed it and his three followups stomped out every last spark of hope that the BC is somehow legit.

46 posted on 01/10/2012 1:08:00 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Mortrey; BurningOak

If Obama is kept off any state ballot (and I very much doubt it will happen) it will almost certainly be in a conservative state he wasn’t gonna win anyway.

That would embarrass him but would also create a backlash as he plays the victim card with the media 100% on his side.

He DESERVES to be impeached but that’s not gonna happen either.

Dragons can’t be wished away, they need to be slain. (easy secret service it’s a metaphor!!)


47 posted on 01/10/2012 1:17:37 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Mr. Wright

bookmark


48 posted on 01/10/2012 1:26:44 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: paul51

Exactly. This is a truism.


49 posted on 01/10/2012 1:30:07 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: TigersEye

“Alright! Way to take it to ‘em. :-)”

Yeah, baybee! Better put some ice on that! =)


50 posted on 01/10/2012 2:03:55 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome ("Obama" Eligibility: Don't let 'em (continue to) get away with it.)
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