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Goldman's Latest Boiler-Room Stock: America
Rolling Stone ^ | January 2, 2012 | Matt Taibbi

Posted on 01/10/2012 3:51:03 PM PST by khnyny

Have a column on Iowa coming soon, but first, a quick but absurd note from the world of high finance.

It seems Jim O'Neill, the head of Goldman's Asset Management department, is predicting that the United States stock market may go up "15 to 20 percent." O'Neill apparently believes Ben Bernanke and the Federal Reserve will resort to another round of money-printing, and finally green-light the long-awaited "Qe3," or third round of "Quantitative Easing."

The QE programs involve the Fed printing hundreds of billions of dollars and pumping them into the marketplace, where they ostensibly stimulate the economy (although recent experience tells us that the money mostly ends up being swallowed by the financial services industry – but that's another subject for another time). Anyway, Bernanke declined to go ahead with a third QE program in late 2011, but O'Neill apparently thinks we'll get it in 2012. From Bloomberg:

"If QE2 doesn’t work, then we’ll get QE3," said O’Neill, who was named chairman of the money manager in September after working as the co-head of global economics research and chief currency economist at New York-based Goldman Sachs Group Inc. since 1995. There’s a "good chance" the S&P 500 will rise 15 percent to 20 percent in the next 12 months, he said.

O'Neill added that he thought a 20 percent bump would be "relatively straightforward" for the U.S. S&P.

Goldman is building an impressive resume of sweepingly bullish predictions that later on, in retrospect, look more like signals to investors that they should run screaming in the opposite direction. A good example might be May of 2008, when Goldman boldly predicted that oil would go to $200 a barrel; oil would go on to peak at $147 less than two months later and crash to the floor soon after.

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"laughed when I read Wilson's quote, wondering exactly how long ago the bank privately came to that conclusion and started shorting BRIC countries. Goldman's Dec. 7 report, incidentally, arrived just before O'Neill released his new book, a Tom Friedmanesque volume of cheerleading nonsense called The Growth Map: Economic Opportunity in the BRICs and Beyond. That book was published on December 8, meaning O'Neill was seen spending 256 pages predicting "rosy prospects" for the BRIC bloc exactly one day after Goldman itself had officially bailed on its own cheesy marketing gimmick.

Anyway, every time I read one of these rah-rah predictions, I get this feeling that I've seen this movie before. When it comes time to do Goldman, Sachs: The Movie!, I'll be bummed beyond belief if Vin Diesel doesn't get to play Jim O'Neill.

The folks at Zero Hedge long ago caught on to Goldman's JT-Marlin pump-and-dump vibe. Here's what they said when Goldman upgraded European bank stocks a few weeks ago:

Goldman has just started selling European bank stocks to its clients, whom it is telling to buy European bank stocks. Said otherwise, the Stolpering of clients gullible enough to do what Goldman says and not does, has recommenced. Our advice, as always, do what Goldman's flow desk is doing as it begins to unload inventory of bank stocks. Translation: run from European bank exposure.

Sure enough, Euro bank stocks plummeted a few days after that ZH post."

1 posted on 01/10/2012 3:51:15 PM PST by khnyny
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To: khnyny

It’s no prediction. With the corporatist fascist relationship Goldman’s has with the federal government, I’m sure they’ll just have the ‘plunge protection team’ pump US taxpayer dollars into the market to make his words come true.

Everyone knows since the ‘plunge protection team’ was instituted the stock market is not a free market but a government planned market. Everyone also knows that the corruption at the top between Goldman Sachs and the other trashnational financial corporations guarantees to keep their wealth intact always, no matter what harm it does to the United States or to the principles of freedom on which it was founded.

2 posted on 01/10/2012 3:56:52 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Whenever I need investment advice, I turn to Rolling Stone...

3 posted on 01/10/2012 4:38:17 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Gimme that old time fossil fuel.)
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4 posted on 01/10/2012 5:34:19 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: khnyny

it’ll go up because the market is stronger and the dollar is holding its value.

whatever you do... don’t buy gold or silver.


5 posted on 01/10/2012 6:49:22 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: khnyny

and yes... $2000/oz gold will soon be a reality

20% x $1634 == $326

$1634 + $326 == $1960

yea... change! (don’t let the lib-tards forget it whenever they complain about a price being too high)

6 posted on 01/10/2012 6:52:12 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: khnyny
I like Goldman's call on USA equities.

America has the best managed, and most profitable, corporations in the world.

The issue, for me, is timing.

When does USA government debt, USA unfunded government liabilities, and USA money printing start sinking the Corporate Titanic?

I'm willing to gamble that won't happen before Obama is reelected (and he will be easily reelected).

The Hard Left major news media will bury every bad economic story, and will hype every slightly positive economic story between now and November.

That by itself might be worth 15%.

7 posted on 01/11/2012 12:03:32 AM PST by zeestephen
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