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Daniel Harless fired from Canton police force (Captured on video threatening to kill CCW citizen)
cantonrep.com ^ | Jan 11, 2012 @ 09:56 AM | Lori Monsewicz

Posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:45 AM PST by TSgt

A city police officer at the center of a controversial traffic stop involving a man with a permit to carry a concealed handgun has been fired.

Bill Adams, president of the Canton Police Patrolmen’s Association, the union that represents Patrolman Daniel Harless, confirmed that city Safety Director Thomas Ream ruled that Harless is no longer a member of the city’s police force.

Ream issued a three-page ruling dated Tuesday.

“It is quite clear that (Harless’) actions represented a pattern of behavior where inappropriate verbal abuse and threats of death or great bodily harm of the various complainants occurred,” Ream wrote.

“This escalating pattern of potentially dangerous behavior cannot be justified or excused and clearly illustrates the seriousness of the departmental infractions.”

Harless plans to appeal the decision, Adams said.

Harless was accused of violating police department rules during the June 8 traffic stop during which police cruiser video shows Harless berating and threatening a man pulled over around 1:30 a.m. on Newton Avenue NW.

Harless unleashed a flurry of profanities at the driver, shouting he should have gunned down the driver, William E. Barlett, for being stupid.

The cruiser video went viral after it captured the attention of Ohioans for Concealed Carry, which posted the video online.

The police department’s internal affairs division launched an investigation, examining Harless’ behavior during the June 8th arrest and two unrelated traffic stops, each captured on a police cruiser dash camera.

In the June 8 stop, he was accused of violating the department’s rules and regulations for cooperation with the public, deportment and treatment of persons in custody. For that, he faced being suspended or fired.

Harless was placed on medical leave and other officers donated their sick days to him when his paid sick-leave time ran out.

The union had asked for an extension for the disciplinary hearing due to Harless being diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder.

“Obviously, it’s an unfortunate set of circumstances that transpired,” Adams said. “We feel that due to the fact that (Harless) has PTSD, that nobody realized it for eight-plus years, for it to come to light the way it did ... this is not a way we wanted this to play out. PTSD is obviously a disease.”

Adams said that the incident that sparked the disease occurred in 2003 when a suspect nearly bit off Harless’ finger while trying to get the officer’s gun.

“Here’s a guy who was in a life-and-death situation,” Adams said, adding that since the June 8 incident came to light, Harless has been diagnosed several times with PTSD.

“Most people that have a bad day on their job can go home, put their legs up and relax,” Adams said. “We can go home from our jobs in a body bag or with a serious physical injury from the hospital.”

He noted the recent incident in which Officer Tim Marks was brutally attacked by a suspect.

“It affects people in different ways. Unfortunately, (Harless) had PTSD, and it wasn’t realized for eight years. Unfortunately, he was fired, and we will address that situation at a later time.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Ohio
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Another reason to HATE unions! So the PTSD caused him to do it? He's a loose cannon but should be given his job back? Are you fing' serious?

The cop should be in prison!

1 posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:50 AM PST by TSgt
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To: TSgt

Licensed Conceal Carry Threatened w/ Execution by Canton OH Police
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG2TSCpSEVw


2 posted on 01/11/2012 7:36:20 AM PST by TSgt (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: TSgt

I’m willing to wager a blood test would point to ROID.


3 posted on 01/11/2012 7:38:11 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: TSgt
Even if you buy their lame excuse, if you have PTSD that badly you can't be a cop. Cops need to be the calm level headed guys. That is why you trust them with powers not given to the normal citizenry. Rambo should not be a cop. People with anger issues should not be cops. People who get off having power over others should not be cops.
4 posted on 01/11/2012 7:39:52 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: TSgt
“Most people that have a bad day on their job can go home, put their legs up and relax,” Adams said. “We can go home from our jobs in a body bag or with a serious physical injury from the hospital.”

It could happen. But, if you're not up for it, GET A DIFFERENT JOB.

5 posted on 01/11/2012 7:40:36 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: GonzoGOP

Sadly it is just the opposite in many places...


6 posted on 01/11/2012 7:42:01 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: GonzoGOP
Rambo should not be a cop. People with anger issues should not be cops. People who get off having power over others should not be cops.
7 posted on 01/11/2012 7:43:01 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: GonzoGOP
Rambo should not be a cop. People with anger issues should not be cops. People who get off having power over others should not be cops.

Correct. Regrettably, though, there almost seems to be a trend among police departments of actively recruiting those types of people.

8 posted on 01/11/2012 7:43:24 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: TSgt

It’s about time.


9 posted on 01/11/2012 7:43:57 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> - - -)
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To: edpc
PTSD is obviously a disease

Yup, it is, and if in fact the officer is suffering from PTSD, then he needs treatment.

However, he does not need to be put in a position of authority behind a gun, ever. Police force took their time, but eventually did the right thing in firing the guy. They should just be thankful that no one got hurt while they were dragging their feet.

10 posted on 01/11/2012 7:44:05 AM PST by wbill
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To: TSgt

Whoever should have spotted an armed thug with PTSD and didn’t for eight years should be fired as well. PTSD may be a reason but it is not an excuse. If Harless wants to plead PTSD he’s essentially stating that he is not fit for the demanding role of a police officer. If he’s saying he should get his job back he’s stating that he does not have PTSD. He and his lawyer need to decide which “ truth” is true.


11 posted on 01/11/2012 7:44:09 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: WayneS

statistically there are many jobs which are more dangerous than being a cop.


12 posted on 01/11/2012 7:47:57 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TSgt

Not being a Doctor, by any chance does PTSD, stand for Pistolwip The Stupid Driver(s), just asking. :-) end of sarc>


13 posted on 01/11/2012 7:48:02 AM PST by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: TSgt

>>Another reason to HATE unions!

Don’t you mean, Another reason to HATE cops?


14 posted on 01/11/2012 7:48:35 AM PST by qwerty1234
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To: TSgt

If I as a mere serf had threatened to murder someone during a profanity laced tirade, would I be walking around free or would I be up on felony charges?


15 posted on 01/11/2012 7:49:02 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: TSgt

He got PTSD from one incident? BS, he was coached on the symptoms and diagnosed by union quacks.

He should be in jail, as those who allowed him to be on the street when this happened.


16 posted on 01/11/2012 7:51:40 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TSgt

He got PTSD from one incident? BS, he was coached on the symptoms and diagnosed by union quacks.

He should be in jail, as those who allowed him to be on the street when this happened.


17 posted on 01/11/2012 7:51:56 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: WayneS
It could happen. But, if you're not up for it, GET A DIFFERENT JOB.

Dollars to donuts Harless ends up with a full disability pension resulting from his "job related" condition.

18 posted on 01/11/2012 7:53:38 AM PST by Roccus (The GOP is just the sandbox that conservatives are allowed to play in...............for now.)
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To: TSgt
The cop should be in prison!

I agree that the cop needs to do time. The PTSD excuse is no different than the ones the perps always use "I was on drugs"; "I was abused as a kid", etc. Just shows that the cop is cut from the same cloth as other perps.

The support he has received form fellow officers shows that Canton is not a safe place in which to be a citizen.

19 posted on 01/11/2012 7:55:19 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: WayneS
But he's entitled to his gubmunt job because he wants it.
20 posted on 01/11/2012 7:58:38 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: KarlInOhio
If I as a mere serf had threatened to murder someone during a profanity laced tirade, would I be walking around free or would I be up on felony charges?

depends.are you in a gubmint union ?

21 posted on 01/11/2012 8:00:02 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: TSgt
Harless was placed on medical leave and other officers donated their sick days to him when his paid sick-leave time ran out.

Bad cops are only a tiny fraction of any force, and their actions shouldn't impugn the other officers who aren't caught doing anything wrong.

22 posted on 01/11/2012 8:03:21 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: wbill

If he got PTSD from a “line-of-duty” incident, and now is mentally incapable of performing his job - he is actually entitled to disablility retirement.

Not advocating, just noting ...


23 posted on 01/11/2012 8:03:33 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Roccus

Agreed. It certainly seems pretty clear that is what he is going for.

He went from bully to ‘victim’ pretty quickly after that video was made public.


24 posted on 01/11/2012 8:13:51 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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Harless plans to appeal the decision

Show that jackbooted ass his own video with him as the star in a 1 hour loop, over and over and over, and then let him make his 'defense' in said appeal.

ANY cop threatening to murder a law abiding citizen should not only be fired outright, but serving mandatory prison time.
25 posted on 01/11/2012 8:15:02 AM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: TSgt

http://danielharless.com/


26 posted on 01/11/2012 8:16:08 AM PST by wolficatZ (:"TV is king, you're my everything..")
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To: TSgt

I think the angle here is going to be lifetime disability pay.....


27 posted on 01/11/2012 8:16:25 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: edpc

You’re right. There is no doubt that guy is/was doing steroids. Anyone with an ounce of brains could see that.


28 posted on 01/11/2012 8:17:25 AM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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And, as one poster commented on youtube, this officer should end up on the receiving end of a good ol' downhome A$$KICKING!!!

Jackboot thugs of this type should be offered no quarter...

29 posted on 01/11/2012 8:19:16 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Mantra of the left: 'It's only okay when WE do it.'")
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To: patton

If this cop “got” PTSD from some joker biting his finger he is too much of a pussy to be a cop anyways.

I work with a lot of military veterans who have REAL PTSD. Somebody biting their finger wouldn’t have bothered them at all.


30 posted on 01/11/2012 8:19:16 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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Harless was placed on medical leave and other officers donated their sick days to him when his paid sick-leave time ran out.

So much for the "one bad apple" theory....

31 posted on 01/11/2012 8:20:38 AM PST by papertyger
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To: TSgt

We see again the power of viral video. Free information exchange makes it easy to put a spotlight on bad actors.


32 posted on 01/11/2012 8:20:49 AM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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“we can’t go home in bodybags.”

Who are they kidding? There are jobs far more dangerous than LEO, and most jobs have their occupational hazards. Cops aren’t alone in that. the bodybag line is just and excuse for crappy behavior. Deal with the requirements of your job or quit


33 posted on 01/11/2012 8:21:50 AM PST by LevinFan
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To: TSgt

I’m not even going to comment what I think of this POS. I’m glad I don’t live in Canton.


34 posted on 01/11/2012 8:21:55 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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If he had PTSD then why did they keep him on active police duty instead of putting him wher he could do no harm.
It’s an excuse. A lame one at best.


35 posted on 01/11/2012 8:24:01 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Defeat Obama. End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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Damn! I wasn't anywhere close, but this cop just scared me.

Now I have to wonder just how many of the Dallas police are suffering from these kinds of anger problems?

Mr. Harless clearly needs to get a job that does not require any interaction with people...and certainly not a job with any authority..

..sadily, he is going to kill someone someday, IMO. I bet that people who know him absolutely know that he is disturbed, and has been since he was a kid.

Mr. Harless:...get some help...

36 posted on 01/11/2012 8:25:32 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: 43north

Perhaps the cop was mentally deficient to begin with. Who knows?


37 posted on 01/11/2012 8:25:32 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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“The cop should be in prison!”

On our dime? REALLY?

I say get ten feet of rope, find a tree and be done with it.


38 posted on 01/11/2012 8:25:53 AM PST by HKMk23 (YHVH NEVER PLAYS DEFENSE)
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To: TSgt

This is one bad cop, and he needed firing. There are many more like him. I was about to type “but not all cops are bad,” as I know several personally. However, what gives me most concern in this story isn’t the bad cop, it’s that his fellow cops were DONATING THEIR OWN OFF TIME to him so he could keep his job while he litigated his termination. To put it in perspective, the term they use for us “citizens” in the same situation is “accomplices.” That makes them just as bad.


39 posted on 01/11/2012 8:28:27 AM PST by henkster (Obama regime mission statement: "Find the people working, and stop them!")
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To: driftdiver

Pizza delivery dude?


40 posted on 01/11/2012 8:34:53 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: henkster

If being “good” means doing the right thing, even when it costs you, then “good cops” are almost non-existent.


41 posted on 01/11/2012 8:36:10 AM PST by papertyger
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To: TSgt

42 posted on 01/11/2012 8:41:06 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: henkster

Which is precisely why I WOULD NEVER TRUST or BELIEVE anything a Police Officer in Amerika says, they are all corrupt in my opinion for this very reason, Time and Time again we see entire Police Departments STAND IN UNITY FOR A COMMON CRIMINAL because he or she has a Badge. Needless to say this TERRORIST BELONGS IN PRISON FOR LIFE, Yes I said Terrorist, Anybody else would be charged with “Making Criminal Terrorist Threats” Canton citizens need to FIRE THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT and the Politicians in charge, then A new DA could file Charges against ALL OF THEM for their Conspiracy against the citizenry of Canton, Ohio. They are all accomplices and should all be treated as such.


43 posted on 01/11/2012 8:42:25 AM PST by eyeamok
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Let’s see . . . June, July, August, September, October, November, December and finally January . . . only 8 months to decide to fire this out of control LEO. Where I work behavior like this will get you fired right there right then.


44 posted on 01/11/2012 8:42:42 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: wbill
PTSD is obviously a disease

It can't be that obvious if Harless could have it for eight years and only have it "discovered" when his ass is in a sling....

45 posted on 01/11/2012 8:43:50 AM PST by papertyger
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To: TSgt

Am I the only person who saw the video of him going nuts TEN years ago. That predates his BS claim of PTSD.


46 posted on 01/11/2012 8:45:15 AM PST by LevinFan
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only 8 months to decide to fire this out of control LEO.

Yeah....the GD sheep just wouldn't go back to grazing, so they actually had to DO something.

47 posted on 01/11/2012 8:49:06 AM PST by papertyger
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To: henkster

You said it. so many people say there are only a few bad apples, and ignore the “good cops” who enable the bad cops by keeping their mouths shut. Good cops don’t do that.


48 posted on 01/11/2012 8:50:22 AM PST by LevinFan
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To: KarlInOhio
“If I as a mere serf had threatened to murder someone during a profanity laced tirade, would I be walking around free or would I be up on felony charges?”

That depends on weather or not you have freedom of speech or not. Just words, tirade your head off no harm done. Put actions behind those words then there's a case.

49 posted on 01/11/2012 8:50:34 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: TSgt
I think they are saying that because police have to deal with the threat of psychos who might murder them it is perfectly A-OK for a police officer to act like a psycho and threaten to murder people.

THIS is the kind of guy LEO’s circle the waggons around, donate sick days to, and think should still have a badge and a gun and a position of grave responsibility in the community.

Doesn't speak well of any of them.

50 posted on 01/11/2012 8:52:19 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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