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Newt Gingrich: I Crossed The Line (Bain Criticism)
politico.com ^ | Jan. 11, 2012 | Jonathan Allen

Posted on 01/11/2012 12:10:06 PM PST by truthkeeper

SPARTANBURG, S.C. — Newt Gingrich signaled Wednesday that he believes his criticism of Mitt Romney’s record at Bain Capital is a mistake — and that he’s created an impression that he was echoing Democratic rhetoric.

Gingrich conceded the problem when pressed by a Rick Santorum supporter at a book-signing here Wednesday.

“I’m here to implore one thing of you. I think you’ve missed the target on the way you’re addressing Romney’s weaknesses. I want to beg you to redirect and go after his obvious disingenuous about his conservatism and lay off the corporatist versus the free market. I think it’s nuanced,” Dean Glossop, an Army Reservist from Inman, S.C., said.

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To: truthkeeper

This is the sort of thing that will cause many to vote for someone other than Newt. He’s very bright and imaginative, a brainstormer, but the most creative brainstormers usually come up with some very bad ideas as well as good ones.

Another of Newt’s brainstorms landed him on that couch with Nancy Pelosi. How long before he’d have other, equally out there brainstorms if in the White House? There definitely need to be some checks and balances on Newt and his ideas.


51 posted on 01/11/2012 12:40:24 PM PST by Will88
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To: skaterboy

“we call that flip flopping in the intellectually honest world”

Now that is pure ignorance. I would hope you would be better than that. GO NEWT!


52 posted on 01/11/2012 12:41:34 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Will88

I am leaning towards Santorum, but I realize that even W beats all of these guys by a mile.


53 posted on 01/11/2012 12:41:49 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: TomGuy

“Sadly, that shows up one of Gingrich’s major weaknesses — a thin skin.”

Come now. Newt received 45% of the negative adds in Iowa and 90% in New Hampshire. Newt was just returning the fire. GO NEWT!


54 posted on 01/11/2012 12:44:02 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: truthkeeper

Newt must of read this morning’s editorial in the WSJ. Intimidation by the MSM! MF Global is good, too.


55 posted on 01/11/2012 12:44:23 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: truthkeeper

I see that the RINO Romney types have really infiltrated this post. Karl Rove has a big smile reading some of these posts. GO NEWT!


56 posted on 01/11/2012 12:45:12 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Lol @ people who conflate ‘capitalism’ with ‘Bain Capital’.

With defenders like this, no wonder capitalism is losing the war of ideas.


57 posted on 01/11/2012 12:45:34 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: truthkeeper

Newt has done more irreparable harm to the hard-enough-job of convincing the stupids who vote that capitalism is bad, than any dem could. That alone should be enough to rule out any hope of a presidential run for him. A man with his vindictiveness and bitterness, and who cannot control his anger in the public forum has no business running the country. Thanks Newt.

This is exactly why the powers that be may not, in fact, be wanting a conservative to win. Candidates like this never will.


58 posted on 01/11/2012 12:46:15 PM PST by adc
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To: truthkeeper

Please keep me posted on what he says, will you truthkeeper? I won’t be available to listen.


59 posted on 01/11/2012 12:46:54 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: varina davis

I wonder if Perry is going to do any more “night patrols” with Newt? Winners Romney, Santorum; Losers Newt, Perry. But Perry might be able to turn this into a win if he plays it right. Big if. Paul gets points for being consistent and right.


60 posted on 01/11/2012 12:47:06 PM PST by jpsb
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To: TomGuy

Good...electing an attack dog who would go after the dems for revenge or otherwise once in office sounds like a good plan to me.


61 posted on 01/11/2012 12:47:14 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: Deb
He keeps making me sad.

How could he not? He's a nitwit.

62 posted on 01/11/2012 12:47:22 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: indylindy

Every politician makes gaffes at one point or another. Which one hasn’t? That doesn’t mean that it’s preferable to nominate Mitt Hussein “I like being able to fire people” Obomney for the Oval Office.


63 posted on 01/11/2012 12:49:33 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: truthkeeper

This just sounds like a campaign strategy...Now, Newt can distance himself from the attacks that are being leveled against Bain and move on to other points. The attacks will still have an effect with Romney having to answer questions about Bain instead of what he wants the talking points to be.

Who knows if it will work?


64 posted on 01/11/2012 12:50:54 PM PST by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: dfwgator

Newt’s playing the game..and the candidates as he thinks the game should go....He’s doing exactly what he said he would do..an unconvential campaign. I won’t underestimate his game plans...and what he carries out...and will give it time to see where the plays go....He’s on the move and I like what’ he’s doing.


65 posted on 01/11/2012 12:51:28 PM PST by caww
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To: dfwgator

That’s the problem with stoopid attack. He might say sorry for missing on the rug but the odor still lingers.


66 posted on 01/11/2012 12:51:38 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: dfwgator
I am leaning towards Santorum, but I realize that even W beats all of these guys by a mile.

I'm hoping Santorum can keep gaining support and have good showing in SC and Florida. He's my favorite of those left, but I'm also beginning to be resigned that we won't have a great presidential candidate and am turning some interest to the possible gains in the Senate. I think we'll need good control of the House and Senate no matter who the next president is.

And only Congress can repeal Obamacare and send it to the president for signature.

67 posted on 01/11/2012 12:51:45 PM PST by Will88
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To: varina davis
Perry explicitly said (to Hannity) that he is NOT against venture capitalism, just the “vulture” type that leaves employees jobless and eliminates their pensions.

Thats a worthless nuance. Somebody is always going to get laid off; otherwise how do you reallocate capital?

This whole line of attack by "Republicans" is obscene and idiotic. The Stupid Party.

68 posted on 01/11/2012 12:52:10 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: dfwgator

That’s the problem with stoopid attack. He might say sorry for missing on the rug but the odor still lingers.


69 posted on 01/11/2012 12:52:10 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: truthkeeper
Only two people on this thread actually read the article.

Once again, the Political headline is untrue.

Newt didn't apologize for anything and did not say that he crossed the line.

Newt laid the blame at Obama's feet.

70 posted on 01/11/2012 12:53:52 PM PST by Praxeologue
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To: JediJones

There are a very few Romney supporters left on FR. The criticism of Newt was not support for Romney.

It was support for capitalism and it isn’t conservative to adopt the lamguage and class warfare of the left.

This stuff wasn’t a gaffe. This was poor judgment.

I am aware of what a gaffe is. I can forgive gaffes. I wish that was all it was.


71 posted on 01/11/2012 12:54:16 PM PST by dforest
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To: Parley Baer
From a decade ago:



The ole Newt Version 1.0 keeps jumping up and biting the new Newt Version 2.0.

A leopard can't change its spots.
72 posted on 01/11/2012 12:54:28 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: truthkeeper

Gotta appreciate the irony of FReepers who rail against the duplicitous nature of the MSM, yet ineluctably fall for the MSM’s tricks every time.

This whole thing is a Politico hit-piece spinning Gingrich’s comment entirely out of context.


73 posted on 01/11/2012 12:54:41 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: truthkeeper

Newt trying to rescue his chances in South Carolina won’t be easy to do, now that they have seen him attacking from the left. Strange times!


74 posted on 01/11/2012 12:54:57 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: org.whodat

Ha...some just can’t see the Newt plays for what they are...get a dose of political theatre to understand..it might help you.


75 posted on 01/11/2012 12:55:20 PM PST by caww
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To: indylindy

A gaffe is when you unintentionally say what you really think.


76 posted on 01/11/2012 12:55:31 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: JediJones
once in office

And that is where your argument falls. Gingrich [#4 in Ia, #4 in NH] won't win in the general election, even if he does manage to win the nomination.

Additionally, your comment would seem to approve retribution and retaliation, assuming Gingrich did get in office. Is that the kind of presidency we need?
77 posted on 01/11/2012 12:57:53 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Parley Baer

It never ceases to amaze how quickly some can admit a wrong and be forgiven, while others...NEVER!


78 posted on 01/11/2012 12:58:59 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
The Democrats and Obama have known about Bain for a long time and planned to use it against Romney closer to the general election .... I am watching the video now.

Ding. Ding. Ding. The aforementioned sickening video on the Chris Matthews propaganda show (masquerading as news).

Chrissy had to have gotten permission from the DNC to release this now instead of waiting, since Newt let the cat out of the bag. They will call this strategy 'Occupy_Whatever'.

79 posted on 01/11/2012 12:59:28 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: truthkeeper
Politico misquoted and lied about Gingrich's comments from a book signing, and the political discussion to follow is full of immoral, illiterate idiots. What else is new from Romney's dishonest, socialist and government-linked business supporters?


80 posted on 01/11/2012 12:59:34 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Utmost Certainty

It is a hit-piece and conservative have been played for fools this whole primary. Game, set, match by GOP. And how did the last election go with the GOP calling the shots? Our focus should have been on who has the best policies to turn this country around, and the strength and experience to make it happen. Unfortunately this missed opportunity will cost us our country.


81 posted on 01/11/2012 12:59:39 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic ( (I am angry and that is why I am #withNewt))
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To: varina davis
Once again, Rick Perry is the only candidate standing by his statements

Does that mean he still believes we don't have a heart if we don't agree with him on in-state tuition for the criminal immigrants?

I did notice that he took down the Romney ringtone off his campaign website, the one that has Romney talking about liking to be able to fire people. Why'd he do that if he stands by what he said?
82 posted on 01/11/2012 1:00:35 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: dfwgator
I am leaning towards Santorum, but I realize that even W beats all of these guys by a mile.

That is sad commentary, sad but very true.

83 posted on 01/11/2012 1:01:10 PM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: af_vet_rr

More and more this whole lot is looking like “The Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight.”


84 posted on 01/11/2012 1:01:34 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Nonstatist
If bilking the pensioners and the taxpayers to line your own pockets doesn't qualify as "vulture" capitalism then I don't know what does...

Reuters reports in "Special report: Romney's steel skeleton in the Bain closet" that Romney's Bain Capital took a $44 million government bailout in 2002 from the federal U.S. Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp after they determined that Bain had underfunded its steel mill's pension by $44 million. Workers were denied the severance pay and health insurance they’d been promised, and their pension benefits were cut by as much as $400 a month. Nevertheless, Bain profited on the deal, receiving $12 million on its $8 million initial investment and at least $4.5 million in consulting fees.

85 posted on 01/11/2012 1:03:02 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

Spot on. The heats only going to get hotter on Romney. If he can’t turn this around now, he needs to start losing and fast.


86 posted on 01/11/2012 1:07:21 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: af_vet_rr
Why'd he do that if he stands by what he said?

Do you REALLY think Perry even knows how to put on a ringtone?...much less had anything to do with it?

Anyway, you are about 2 or 3 months behind...you're still hung on "heartless."

In your "heartless" you know Perry is right!

87 posted on 01/11/2012 1:07:51 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: caww

Wrong,


88 posted on 01/11/2012 1:07:51 PM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newt's, Perry's and Willard's positions on Amnesty.)
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To: TomGuy

I lie then followed by lies now. Why do some republicans fall for every attack media makes against other Republicans?


89 posted on 01/11/2012 1:08:44 PM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: TomGuy

Yes, the “leopards” known as the mainstream media and the liberal left can’t change their “spots” of smearing any popular or powerful conservative with falsehoods and lies...

Robert Bork
Clarence Thomas
Rush Limbaugh
Newt Gingrich
Ken Starr
Linda Tripp
Bill O’Reilly
Sarah Palin


90 posted on 01/11/2012 1:14:46 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: 1010RD
On Twitter, Rush's comments about Romney's excuse: just like GM. Romney proved Newt's premise that it is crony capitalism and that Romney is just like Obama DUH!! Romney is stupid and Obama & co and the media will destroy him. He is not smart enough to fight on their level. The really sad part, conservatives have been played for fools by the media and GOP establishment AGAIN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nzo4skMh7Jc

91 posted on 01/11/2012 1:16:12 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic ( (I am angry and that is why I am #withNewt))
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To: La Enchiladita

Newt shot himself in the foot with these remarks, IMHO. Pretty hard to walk it back now.


92 posted on 01/11/2012 1:16:33 PM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: JediJones

Here is some good advice for Newt. He should have made a Newt Gingrich truth telling movie about the extreme danger in another term for Obama.

That would have been a real win and would have elevated Newt in a way people are looking for.


93 posted on 01/11/2012 1:18:44 PM PST by dforest
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To: TomGuy

So according to you, Mitt Romney is now the only Republican who can beat Obama this year? Who are you, George Snuffalupagus or Karl “Lapdog” Rover?

Santorum - behind Newt in NH
Huntsman - behind Newt in IA
Paul - yeah, right


94 posted on 01/11/2012 1:19:40 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: JediJones

Robert Bork
Clarence Thomas
Rush Limbaugh
Newt Gingrich
Ken Starr
Linda Tripp
Bill O’Reilly
Sarah Palin

One of these thing is not like the other, one of these things just doesn’t belong...

HINT Ted Baxter.


95 posted on 01/11/2012 1:19:50 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: dfwgator

What about when you can’t remember that third thing you were going to say?

Oops.


96 posted on 01/11/2012 1:20:53 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: TomGuy
Why does Newt always remind me of the sly and cynical Sidney Greenstreet?:


97 posted on 01/11/2012 1:21:23 PM PST by Palladin (Vote for Rick Santorum: He is a REAL Catholic.)
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To: Vendome

What kind of decoration did you get?

I’m jealous. I never get any.


98 posted on 01/11/2012 1:21:56 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: JediJones
If bilking the pensioners and the taxpayers to line your own pockets doesn't qualify as "vulture" capitalism then I don't know what does...

Exactly. Even ZeroHedge doesn't defend Romney's record as a 'capitalist':
"Lately, Bain founder and GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney has found himself in a spirited defense of the private equity industry, doing all he can to spin decades of data which confirm, without failure, that PE Leveraged Buy Outs are nothing but "efficiency maximizing" transactions whose only goal is the "maximization" of EBITDA in the pursuit of dividend recap deals, IPOs or outright sales, while loading up the company with untenable amounts of leverage. All this with a 3-5 year investment horizon, which ignores the long-term viability of a company and seeks to streamline (read fire as many as possible) operations as quickly as possible in the goal of maximizing short-term returns. We wish him luck in his endeavor."
Shame we have so many wannabe Capitalistas here at FR and elsewhere, who adamantly defend this kind of shuck and jive financial paper shuffling as exemplary acts of free-market enterprise.

The Paulinstneans can recognize Romney for what he is, but apparently we're not allowed to; I'd say that reflects a severe deficiency on our side.
99 posted on 01/11/2012 1:21:56 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

That was dumb and I don’t think Romney missed a ‘teaching moment’. He said what he believes, although at the very end he does come out for shrinking government. Campaign gaffe due to exhaustion or...?


100 posted on 01/11/2012 1:23:14 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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