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Fellow Perry Supporters: It is time to pick a new candidate (Perry supporter drops endorsement)
Redstate ^ | January 11, 2012 | Tim Griffin

Posted on 01/11/2012 1:23:47 PM PST by Qbert

Following much thoughtful consternation, I have decided to pull my support and endorsement of Texas Governor Rick Perry for the GOP presidential nomination.  I realize the redstate diary commenters, won’t be kind but this needs to be said.  This decision wasn’t easy but a serious evaluation of the field should inform us that Rick Perry has no realistic path to victory in South Carolina, Florida and beyond.

I realize that redstate.com’s Erick Erickson continues to stick by him, that South Carolina is Perry’s state and that he has re-tooled his staff.  But it is too little too late and at this point, Mitt Romney is all but certain to capture this nomination.  I realize that he is one of the only smaller government conservatives in this race, but he has blown this race through his own actions and we can no longer help him.

I have been an ardent Perry supporter.  On griffinelection.com, we have over 35 positive pro-Perry-for-President articles.  But no matter how much we have tried to help Perry from the grassroots up, his campaign staff has been plagued with incompetency and Perry himself let us all down with his terrible debate performances.

The truth is that, this race was never about Rick Perry the person, we got behind him because he was the only candidate that had governed a state successfully and was also a strong advocate for smaller government.  But his time is gone.  Outside of the conservative blogosphere echo chamber, there is almost no support for Perry.  As intelligent political thinkers we need to know when to fight and when to live to fight another day.

I chose Perry because I thought his bravado, record as a job creator and social conservative views would be the ultimate contrast to President Obama.  Unfortunately, he has instead seemed aloof, asleep and shallow in debates.  I above all people, hate to admit it, but neither Perry nor his team were ready for prime time.  In fact, none of the campaigns, save Romney have been ready — but others have survived.

Perry was the ultimate Christian leader who held open prayer in Texas and held socially conservative views on almost every issue came in fifth place in Christian Iowa.  In all honesty, he should have displayed the same responsibility that Ms. Bachmann displayed in bowing out then.  Now, Perry goes limping into South Carolina even more injured.

He received 1% in New Hampshire last night.

But it isn’t simply his past failures that have brought me to this point.  It Perry’s dismal chances of future success that has forced us to embrace someone new.  Perry is polling at 5% support in South Carolina, his strongest state, his “last stand” state, the state where he announced he would run.  I love Governor Perry.  I wish he had never had the “oops” minute, but he is now polling at fifth place in South Carolina without any momentum at his back.  With less than two weeks to go and a six person race, Perry simply has no chance to make a comeback this late in the game.

Even if Perry had a strong uptick in support, it wouldn’t be enough to slay Romney who is receiving over 30% of support in South Carolina.  There is simply no alternative.

So, what candidate should voters support if they don’t support the candidate who is:

The father of universal healthcare and the individual mandate in America, the father of Gay Marriage in America, a candidate that supported abortion his entire career and still doesn’t think Roe v. Wade should be reversed.  If you think gun rights are protected under the Second Amendment and that Ronald Reagan was the best modern day president, who do you go with?  Certainly not Mitt Romney, he opposes your views.

There is only three other guys – Huntsman, Santorum and Gingrich.

Jon Huntsman had an above average night in New Hampshire last night, but losing to Ron Paul in his “must-win” state isn’t going to raise him above 3% support in South Carolina.

That leaves two.  Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich are the guys left standing going into South Carolina.

They both bested Perry in Iowa and New Hampshire.  They are both getting the necessary press time.  And in South Carolina, they are both receiving 20% support.  Rick Perry is receiving 5%.  If that 5% could go to either of these candidates, we would have someone who could compete with Romney’s 30%.

Let me reiterate, that this isn’t a normal race.  If there is one clear alterative to Romney, that person can rise from the ashes and still win this thing.  There has never been such a weak yet inevitable frontrunner in modern American politics.  Because of this Romney will lose in November.  The voters who stayed home in 2000 after learning of Bush’s DUI, aren’t going to vote for a pro-abort, individual mandate, Massachusetts Moderate.  Romney will campaign without a passionate base.  Sure, our leaders from elected officials to tv personalities will get in line, but many conservative voters still think for themselves and won’t.  So anyone interested in winning should consider alternatives.

Overall, the base is just to unenthused about Romney to give him the nomination this early.  His delegate count is still very low.  We need to make this a fight.  After South Carolina we have Florida, where Rick Perry is garnering 4.5% support from likely voters compared with 20% apiece with Santorum and Gingrich.

I ask that all Rick Perry supporters in South Carolina and Florida join me in leading.  Please make the difficult decision to back a new candidate that can actually beat Mitt Romney.

Santorum and Gingrich are both infinitely better than Romney and a two-man race will make it easier for a victor to emerge.  Over half of us are against Romney, imagine what we could do if we could unite under the umbrella of conservatism.  There is still time.

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1 posted on 01/11/2012 1:23:56 PM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Nope.


2 posted on 01/11/2012 1:27:28 PM PST by McGavin999 ("If you'll have my back when I go to Washington, I'll have yours" Rick Perry 2012)
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To: McGavin999

Nope or not yet?

If Rick Perry gets under 10% of the vote in both SC and FL will you switch then?


3 posted on 01/11/2012 1:32:31 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Qbert

When Perry talked about going back to Iraq, I said he was only going to get 1% of the vote.

And then he did!


4 posted on 01/11/2012 1:33:20 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: rogue yam

No


5 posted on 01/11/2012 1:33:44 PM PST by McGavin999 ("If you'll have my back when I go to Washington, I'll have yours" Rick Perry 2012)
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To: rogue yam

If Romney takes SC and FL (after already taking NH and supposedly, IA), and then wins NV (where he is favored), it will be very, very difficult to stop him after that point.

The numbers are the numbers, unfortunately.


6 posted on 01/11/2012 1:38:31 PM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

In FL primary, Perry had my vote, but it looks like he won’t be in it by then. I expect him to drop out after SC.

Santorum has my vote now in FL.


7 posted on 01/11/2012 1:38:50 PM PST by ph12321 (We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Qbert

Perry is sounding too much like an occutard with his Bain bashing. Romney isn’t a conservative, and his record as a Massachusetts progressive should be a target rich environment. Instead of focusing on Romneycare and Mitt’s liberal record, Perry has for some reason gotten off on this whole “vulture capitalism” thing and it isn’t going to work and is only alienating any support Perry may have had from Rush and others. It’s sad too, because I was very enthusiastic for Perry early on and even though his miserable debate performances I’d hoped he could come back. Attacking Romney from the left just tells me Perry is in desperation mode and willing to say pretty much anything no matter how ridiculous.


8 posted on 01/11/2012 1:39:52 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Qbert
I could vote for any "R" running, not named Romney/Paul/Huntsman.
9 posted on 01/11/2012 1:41:52 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: Qbert

I like Perry a lot better than Santorum, but it doesn’t seem as if Perry is going to be able to get any traction. Santorum was a fluke in Iowa, and we’ll probably see him dropping in the next round, too.

That said, the one who should simply get out is Ron Paul, because he is not a Republican, there is no way he should be running in the GOP primary, there is no way this 77 year old nutcase is going to get the nomination, and he is just preventing any of the three non-Romney possibles from getting enough votes to coalesce as the leader.


10 posted on 01/11/2012 1:42:01 PM PST by livius
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To: Qbert

I want a strong leader, with a proven record of accomplishments and a clear vision of the future. I want a president that will turn this country around intelligently and quickly.

I will continue to support the one man that I believe in my heart and head can turn this country around and set the right course for my children and grandchildren to have a better future........ that man is Newt Gingrich.

GO NEWT GO.........


11 posted on 01/11/2012 1:42:50 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: Qbert

I guess you know that your are ‘voting’ for ‘Bammy’? If not someone will be along shortly to explain it to you. (sarc)


12 posted on 01/11/2012 1:46:37 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: rogue yam

After SC MAYBE Fla. it will be too late and Romney will take the crown.


13 posted on 01/11/2012 1:48:08 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Qbert

I liked Perry and still do. But his campaign has been a clusterf**k.

His latest reincarnation as a occupy wall street type was a huge mistake.


14 posted on 01/11/2012 1:49:29 PM PST by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else.)
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To: Qbert

This can’t work. If you simply urge Perry supporters to drop him and “support another candidate”, at best you get half to quit, and they spread out among the other candidates, INCLUDING Romney, so nobody really gets ahead.

What would need to happen is for Rick Perry to quit and endorse. But he won’t do that until after South Carolina, because for some reason he feels obligated to compete there. And since South Carolina is a proportional state, he’s not really hurting anybody by staying in the race. He can spend his money attacking Romney, which he couldn’t do if he dropped out.

Perry doesn’t have enough support to push either Gingrich or Santorum over the top right now.


15 posted on 01/11/2012 1:49:29 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ph12321

Santorum/Martinez with Newt in a very high cabinet position and Palin as energy secretary.


16 posted on 01/11/2012 1:49:47 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Qbert

But he never received “flavor of the month” like the rest of them.


17 posted on 01/11/2012 1:50:45 PM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: livius

The one who should get out is Hartman. And if Perry drops out, the votes would go to Santorum. Santorum is not perfect but he can win against Obama.


18 posted on 01/11/2012 1:51:05 PM PST by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: Gator113

Gingrich offers a good debate show with the stuttering ahhhh ummmm Obama but after that he will be painted as an old DC Insider.It will be left vs right no matter which man gets it.Rgwt will paint either one as extremists.I’ll take Santorum or Gingrich but my first choice is Santorum.Besides... Obama cannot win without the communist wealth state of PA.I predicted many months ago Santorum would rise.


19 posted on 01/11/2012 1:54:57 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Gator113

Gingrich offers a good debate show with the stuttering ahhhh ummmm Obama but after that he will be painted as an old DC Insider.It will be left vs right no matter which man gets it.The MSM will paint either one as extremists.I’ll take Santorum or Gingrich but my first choice is Santorum.Besides... Obama cannot win without the communist wealth state of PA.I predicted many months ago Santorum would rise.


20 posted on 01/11/2012 1:55:59 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Qbert
Following much thoughtful consternation..

Consternation - n. A state of paralyzing dismay.
Consideration - the act of considering; careful thought; meditation; deliberation

21 posted on 01/11/2012 1:56:43 PM PST by Christian4Bush (PSA. As of 1/11/12, 300/375 days 'til we vote out/take out the trash. (11/6/12, 1/20/13))
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To: Jane Austen

Perry needs to get out while his endorsement can still make a difference to either Santorum or Gingrich. If he waits for another 5th place finish in SC, his remaining support will melt away and his endorsement will be meaningless heading into FL. SC is the hill that the conservatives have to defend at all costs. If they don’t coalesce around a candidate then Romney will be unstoppable. A northeast liberal has no business winning in SC, but he could win by default if the conservatives remain fractured.


22 posted on 01/11/2012 1:57:06 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: Qbert

Not looking forward to the day I have to start considering Ron Paul as the only one to stop Oromney. Conservatives will rue the day they attacked Newt for not being a “perfect” conservative.


23 posted on 01/11/2012 1:59:10 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Qbert

Not me.

If there were a candidate out there I could support with any enthusiasm, maybe.

There is not.

I’m sticking with Rick Perry till the last dog dies.


24 posted on 01/11/2012 1:59:21 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Jane Austen
Santorum is not perfect but he can win against Obama.

I disagree. I think Santorum would be another Dole.

25 posted on 01/11/2012 1:59:39 PM PST by teenyelliott (Obama warned if he loses the election it could herald a new, painful era of self-reliance)
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To: Qbert

“There is only three other guys ...”

Come on Tim...if you want decent respect for your thoughts, at least submit them using proper English grammar.


26 posted on 01/11/2012 1:59:54 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: CharlesWayneCT
A minuscule amount of Perry supporters will back Romney, if he were to drop out it would help both Gingrich and Santorum to make SC a genuine race.

It's having all three conservatives still in the race that is killing us. I hope Huntsman will stay in, I think he might steal a few Romney votes along the way.

27 posted on 01/11/2012 2:00:09 PM PST by Lakeshark
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To: Qbert

Why would you say that we need to support the most Christian of the candidates then have to gall to ask us to consider a serial adulterer?

Newt Gingrinch betrayed not one but two wives. Adultery is the worst betrayal a man can make and he’s done it twice. Who cares about his debating skills the guys a traitor to the people who should have mattered most in his life.

I too am leaving Perry and going to the only man who actually values freedom and individual liberty. Ron Paul. I do not agree with his foreign policy but he cares about my freedom. That’s good enough for me.


28 posted on 01/11/2012 2:00:36 PM PST by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: livius

I agree. Ron Paul is leeching onto a Republican candidacy because it’s the only way to get notice.

He should have run as a libertarian or maybe as a weird libertarian.

If the voters reject Perry, I will sift among the ruins and try to find someone I can like a little bit.


29 posted on 01/11/2012 2:02:11 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Jane Austen
Santorum is not perfect but he can win against Obama.

I disagree. I think Santorum would be another Dole.

30 posted on 01/11/2012 2:02:11 PM PST by teenyelliott (Obama warned if he loses the election it could herald a new, painful era of self-reliance)
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To: nhwingut

Agree with both points.

His record on paper as governor was pretty solid IMO, but I’m guessing that he may have entered the race too early before his back properly healed, and the pain and/or pain medication made him sluggish and not up to par in the debates. But first impressions do count.


31 posted on 01/11/2012 2:02:32 PM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

Perry has recently attacked capitalism and has said he wants to send troops back into Iraq. Worst campaign ever or dumbest candidate ever? Or Both?


32 posted on 01/11/2012 2:04:05 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: teenyelliott

Yes. To be or not to be.

We have one excellent candidate with a proven record as a proven conservative, and who is attractive and charismatic and could easily beat Obama.

the only problem is: nobody is voting for him.

That is something of problem.

But Newt keeps shooting himself in the foot and every other body part he can reach, and Santorum is beyond lame and probably couldn’t even win his own state who kicked him out for a democrat.

So, at this point, I’m sticking with Perry and hoping for a miracle, like maybe a long pass in overtime.


33 posted on 01/11/2012 2:07:04 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Qbert; All

Peee-Uuuuuuu!!!

Smells like a bunch of quitters around here...

I guess what we need to do now is go ahead and let the little states decide for the rest of us who is going to go up and lose to Obama at this rate...

Lets just drop the whole idea behind the primaries or whatever the hades you call what they did in Iowa stand...

Remember there are a WHOLE lot more races to be decided in November than just this one...

Those that wanna stay home will be doing the most damage because the republican party leadership elite and establishment will have bamboozled us once again this cycle...

Forget that we have a few Senators and Reps to put into play, or take out, considering the circumstances...

But if you wanna stay home and get all boo hoo’d because Mittens is the winner already, according to everyone but us at this point...Fine...

That next morning after the November election, I don’t wanna here any whining or crying because the end of the world is nigh because y’all didn’t git yer lazy arses up and go vote for what you could pull the lever for...

Geesh, sounds like 2008 all over again...

And if you have a problem with what I just wrote...

Prove me wrong...


34 posted on 01/11/2012 2:07:10 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Qbert

Gov. James Richard Perry will still be on the ticket when the Primary’s get to Texas . . . Me and mine will be voting for Gov. Perry!!! . . . My mother did not raise any stupid children, we know a good thing when we “LIVE IT” . . . PRAISE BE TO GOD!!!


35 posted on 01/11/2012 2:07:27 PM PST by HopeandGlory (Hey, Liberals . . . PC died on 9/11 . . . GET USED TO IT!!!)
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To: stevie_d_64

I will not stay home.

I will vote for the Republican candidate.

Zero respect for anyone who gets on a high horse and refuses to do that because it is a vote for Obama.


36 posted on 01/11/2012 2:09:00 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Qbert

You are right, Perry should have deferred participating in the debates until his back was healed. Huge strategic blunder, he should now bow out of the race and chalk it up as a lesson learned. Try again in the a future election. It will be mostly forgotten by then.


37 posted on 01/11/2012 2:09:20 PM PST by Reily
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To: altura

And the last dog is hardly dead. There’s only been two pseudo primaries, lots of delegates left out there.


38 posted on 01/11/2012 2:11:49 PM PST by Kenny (q)
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To: Qbert; All
Hoping that both Santorum and Gingrich capture voters from Romney in South Carolina, there is at least one powerful reason why in November 2012, Gingrich seems to be the more likely to win over Obama.

For once, before the light of liberty is extinguished, America's youth, and the the world need to hear the ideas of liberty of Jefferson and Madison debated and defended against the counterfeit ideas advocated by the current President.

That is a task for a scholar who has the founding ideas on instant recall and is able to expose, rebuke and repudiate the siren song of "redistribution" and "helping" that Obama's foundations and training in "other" ideas have provided him--made more dangerous by his Alinsky tactics.

In the Year 1776, with leaders like Washington and Adams available to them, it was young Thomas Jefferson's intellect and ability which caused him to be the one the geniuses of America's founding generation called upon to argue before the people on behalf of liberty against the offenses of King George III.

Now, America has another "ruler" who believes that political position and title entitle him and his fellow officials to plan, regulate, control, and "take" the earnings of the citizens, in order to carry out their ideology's goals for "society"--overlooking, if they wish, the "chains of the Constitution" (Jefferson).

Much has been made about the so-called "intellect" of Obama. A debate with a historian who has studied civilization's history of liberty versus tyranny, especially America's noble history, may be just the spark needed to relight the flame of passion for liberty in America's youth.

Surely, if exposed, they will not choose dependency, mediocrity, and certain slavery to coercive government power over the lives of themselves and their posterity.

Santorum, and others among the candidates deserve places in the Administration which replaces Obama. First, however, the citizenry need to explore carefully, and be led to understand why freedom works to inspire, create wealth and lift individuals up and is consistent with Creator-endowed rights. That was the Founding philosophy.

That is a far different philosophy than that of the more recent ideologies of Mao, Marx and Lenin--ideas which have led to tyranny and oppression everywhere they have been tried.

Gingrich can, if provided the opportunity, expose Obama's bankrupt ideas of government over people, by explaining the Founders' ideas of Creator-endowed, thus inalienable rights, protected and preserved by a "People's" written Constitution for a People-Over-Government arrangement.

39 posted on 01/11/2012 2:15:18 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

While this will not hurt me the same as it would others, I will not vote for Santorum..... I think he’s stupid. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2829774/posts

I’ll take my chances with Newt.


40 posted on 01/11/2012 2:15:30 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: Jane Austen

Um, sorry to disagree, he stands no chance. Show me one poll where he does well against the Kenyan. Independents are not going to vote for Rick, sorry, they just aren’t.


41 posted on 01/11/2012 2:23:36 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: Reily

I agree. Perry can go back to TX and regroup his forces over the the coming 4-8 years, then give it another try.

Remember, Clinton was loudly boo’d at one Democrat convention, nominated at the next; then went on to be elected twice and today is the most beloved (among Dems) pol in the USA today.


42 posted on 01/11/2012 2:23:36 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Qbert

I agree. We need to cull the field of all but the strongest conservatives so that Romney won’t win the nomination with a minority of the votes.


43 posted on 01/11/2012 2:23:49 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: nhwingut

He could have kept me interested but I agree with you, once he started going the ‘vulture capitalism’ route, he lost me.


44 posted on 01/11/2012 2:24:20 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: teenyelliott

Worse than Dole. I watched all the debates, Rick is scared to go after the Marxist Kenyan. Too soft.


45 posted on 01/11/2012 2:25:28 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: Gator113
Palin for the WIN!

(...if she entered, and timed her entry just right.)

Otherwise, either Newt or Santorum: depending on their choice of Running Mate and other advisors.

Cheers!

46 posted on 01/11/2012 2:26:58 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Gator113

“GO NEWT GO.........”

I’m sorry, but after all of Newt’s shenanigans with the extreme far left, playing loose with social conservatism, fiscal conservatism and limited government . . .

Listening to all you guys go on and on about how Newt is somehow different than the one sitting on the couch with Pelosi is like listening to a battered woman going back to her abuser. “But he’s different this time. He really is.”

Yeah. Sure, lady.


47 posted on 01/11/2012 2:28:30 PM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: stevie_d_64

I’m voting for Newt in the primary and I have no intention of sitting home, EVERRRRRRRRRRRR! I have voted in every election since I was old enough to vote and I don’t intend to stop now. In the end, whoever wins the nomination, will get my vote as long as they have an R beside their name.

I want Barry Soetoro the Marxist out of the WH and I would crawl through fire, broken glass, hurricane force winds, etc. to vote against him.


48 posted on 01/11/2012 2:29:25 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: altura

Ditto!


49 posted on 01/11/2012 2:30:10 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: Qbert

I don’t see Newt playing to win. I don’t see the crowds embracing Santorum. I think I’ll stick with Perry.


50 posted on 01/11/2012 2:33:15 PM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry)
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