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Mitt Romney/Nikki Haley 2012 or Gingrich/Palin 2012?
The Hill ^ | January 11, 2012 | Bernie Quigley

Posted on 01/11/2012 3:08:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: CainConservative

LOL! What can I say — clairvoyance runs in the family.


51 posted on 01/11/2012 4:00:28 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Life is like a box of, how damn dumb. Someone. Is picking navel lint.


52 posted on 01/11/2012 4:03:35 PM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newt's, Perry's and Willard's positions on Amnesty.)
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To: dfwgator

“I don’t consider Romney to be a Republican.”

Exactly, neither do I.

Newtorrrrum!!! :~)


53 posted on 01/11/2012 4:04:06 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: CainConservative

Well, that completely ignored my post.


54 posted on 01/11/2012 4:07:16 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: afraidfortherepublic
You’ll need a Constitutional Amendment for Haley. I love her, but she is not an NBC. Neither is Jindal, nor Rubio.

She most certainly is. Nikki Haley was born Nimrata Nikki Randhawa in Bamberg, South Carolina.

And for that matter, Bobby Jindal was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana and Marco Rubio was born in Miami, Florida.

Natural Born Citizen does not require having US citizens for parents if you are born in the United States.

55 posted on 01/11/2012 4:10:38 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I think Bernie needs to lay off the sauce.”

hmmm...another way to say that is: Yes, truth be told I use to smoke pot in my youth...BUT I never smoked THAT much pot!

Gingrich is gone!


56 posted on 01/11/2012 4:30:00 PM PST by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I think Bernie needs to lay off the sauce.”

hmmm...another way to say that is: Yes, truth be told I use to smoke pot in my youth...BUT I never smoked THAT much pot!

Gingrich is gone!


57 posted on 01/11/2012 4:30:00 PM PST by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: Marathoner
You’ll need a Constitutional Amendment for Haley. I love her, but she is not an NBC. Neither is Jindal, nor Rubio.

I agree with you, but it sure as s##t doesn't mean anything to the other side (or the courts apparently).

I think it would suddenly become VERY important to the rat party and their sycophant media if Nikki Haley were on the ticket. They'd go nuts over the importance of the NBC requirement.

58 posted on 01/11/2012 4:53:05 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: CainConservative

You know what? I didn’t know Huntsman was a Mormon...that changes my original thought.


59 posted on 01/11/2012 5:59:35 PM PST by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: af_vet_rr

Shame on GOP to allow open primary


60 posted on 01/11/2012 7:09:13 PM PST by MattinNJ
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Then read it again but s...l...o...w...e...r this time.


61 posted on 01/11/2012 7:49:48 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Excuse me.

I was born and raised in NJ and have lived my last 8 years adult life in Manhattan, so this north-easterner, in no way that any human, alien, or slug could define, find him appealing.

Mitt is awful, he literally equals every lib. Most of my educated friends and co-workers here in on the island don’t support Mitt. It is usually Newt for the more moderate types and Santorum for the political types (like me).

Mitt appeals to Massh()les, that’s about it. LOL

JK- I love people all you people from Mitt land. =P


62 posted on 01/11/2012 8:27:53 PM PST by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
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To: Yo-Yo
Natural Born Citizen does not require having US citizens for parents if you are born in the United States.

Since when? Both parents must be citizens of the US at the time of your birth. They can be naturalized, but the must be citizens. nd if your parents were naturalized citizens, but worked for the government, or the military, and were stationed overseas where you were born, you'd be a natural born citizen too.

63 posted on 01/11/2012 9:20:15 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: moose-matson

Huntsman and Romney are cousins.


64 posted on 01/11/2012 9:41:21 PM PST by iowamark
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Since when? Both parents must be citizens of the US at the time of your birth.

Serously? Ever heard of the phrase "anchor baby?"

Read the 14th Amendment to the Constitution:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
The constitution says nothing about the citizenship of the parents.
65 posted on 01/12/2012 3:34:01 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

Different status. Of course people born here are automatically citizens, but they are not NATURAL BORN CITIZENS. NBC is a special status established by the Founders as a requirement for the Presidency and the VP only.

Anchor babies are NATIVE born, not natural born. There are half a dozen supreme court cases on record differentiating this. The founders’ intent was to make sure that the person occupying the office of President held no allegience to any other country.


66 posted on 01/12/2012 3:56:03 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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67 posted on 01/12/2012 7:23:27 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Romney is a better alternative than four more years of Hussein.<<<

and herpes is a better alternative then AIDS.....so make your pick.....The lesser of 2 evils is still evil!


68 posted on 01/12/2012 10:12:41 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Different status. Of course people born here are automatically citizens, but they are not NATURAL BORN CITIZENS.

That may be the way you want it to be, and that certainly is the way I want it to be, but that's not the way it currently is.

The Supreme Court in United States v. Wong Kim Ark answered the question that anyone born in the United States is a United States Citizen.

Furthermore, the Fourteenth Amendment only recognizes two types of citizenship; natural born and naturalized. There is no third category that you are trying to create.

So until we have a Constitutional Amendment clarifying that children born in the US to non-US citizen parents do not receive US citizenship, or that children born of foreign parents are considered "naturalized" citizens, Haley, Jindal, and Rubio are legally natural born citizens.

Don't like it, but that's the way it is.

69 posted on 01/12/2012 11:22:02 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

Here’s the text of Section ! of the 14th Amendment:

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

You’ll notice there is no reference or use to the term “natural born citizen”, only “citizens”.

The 14th Amendment did not overturn, nor can it overturn the natural born citizen requirement for President in the original text of the Constitution.

Natural born citizen is a defined term, both at the time of the creation of the US Constitution, and in Minor v. Haperstett 1875.

Natural born citizen is one born in country of two CITIZEN parents, or out of country of the two
CITIZEN parents are in the servidce of the government.

You can be a citizen in one of three ways: born a citizen within the US, naturalized but born on another country, and natural born, born here of citizen parents.

The law does not say that natural born equals born citizen in any case.

If your parent(s) are not citizens of the US, and you are born here, you are a citizen, but not a natural born citizen, thus ineligible to be President or Vice President.


70 posted on 01/12/2012 11:43:14 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: ssaftler

Rash assumption? The thought of Hillary jumping in to HELP Obama is the rash assumption.

Why would she? If Obama loses with Biden on the ticket, guess who the Democratic frontrunner is for POTUS in 2016.

But, if she runs and Obama loses, she goes down on the ship WITH him. The Clintons are a lot of things, but there’s no way that they are THAT politically stupid.


71 posted on 01/12/2012 3:04:04 PM PST by ObamaMustGo2012 (Obama Must Go In 2012)
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