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1 posted on 01/11/2012 4:46:27 PM PST by SmithL
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2 posted on 01/11/2012 4:55:20 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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Why are the Republicans only criticizing the Senate map? Why are they trying to undermine a system that, however flawed, is at least an improvement over the former system?

Politics is about doing what you want to do for yourself and your party, and then coming up with patriotic sounding rationalizations after the fact.

The entire referendum process in California is irremediably flawed.

The Republicans are going to come out with all sorts of flag-waving reasons why they are right, even trotting out the Voting Rights Act, which they mostly oppose ... but not when it can be twisted to support their particular cause.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

3 posted on 01/11/2012 4:56:56 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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I’ve dealt with LaRaza in Texas. They are in it for the money. Period.

I don’t have the information handy but they have care facilities where they handle various government related benefits. For a fee, of course. I’d have to find my research on that. They have numerous nonprofits that are basically fronts for lawyers. Places like this:

http://centrolegal.org/services/legal-services/


4 posted on 01/11/2012 5:00:08 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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As quickly as things are coming to a head in California, it would probably be best for the Democrats to have the whole enchilada.

Let them raise taxes to 100% for everybody that earns any money at all. Let them even try a wealth tax on everyone who has money in the bank or investments.

Let them drive out every business in California and achieve 99% unemployment.

Then everyone who voted for them will get what they deserve.

When California collapses, and the federal government refuses to give it any more money. All the laws they passed with be meaningless. A state full of pretentious beggars.


5 posted on 01/11/2012 5:27:05 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: SmithL; Clintonfatigued; calcowgirl; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
Were the referendum to qualify, the Supreme Court would decide which maps to use for 20 Senate elections this year – the commission's versions, the previous districts or court-devised ones.

Well I can't see them keeping the current 10 year old district lines.

"Independent" redistricting was a cluster(screw). But I guess maps drawn by the rat legislators would have been even worse.

Only half the seats are up? Here in IL the entire State Senate is up in a redistricting year.

8 posted on 01/11/2012 6:29:14 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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I think that the Democrats getting the 2/3 majority is probably a good thing in the long run. Rather than a slow lingering painful slide into bankruptcy, they can dive.


10 posted on 01/11/2012 7:40:33 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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