Skip to comments.Quit smoking: A new case for going cold turkey
Posted on 01/11/2012 5:36:35 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084
A new study suggests cigarette smokers who quit after using over-the-counter medication such as nicotine patches are just as likely to relapse as smokers who go "cold turkey," casting fresh doubt on the effectiveness of such products.
The finding, from a survey of several hundred smokers, could heighten U.S. smoking-policy debates at a time when the federal health-care overhaul is widening eligibility for cessation medication but states are slashing funding for public-service announcements and telephone quit lines.
The study by researchers at the Harvard School of Public Health and University of Massachusetts Boston also coincides with slowing progress to get Americans to kick the cigarette habit, which the U.S. government says is linked to 443,000 deaths and $96 billion in medical costs each year. An estimated 19.3 percent of adults still smoked cigarettes in 2010, little changed from 20.9 percent in 2004.
In research published Monday in the online edition of Tobacco Control, a peer-reviewed journal, the authors said they surveyed 787 smokers in 2001-2002 who had recently quit in Massachusetts. Nearly one-third who participated in a follow-up interview in 2003-2004 reported having relapsed and almost one-third again reported relapsing in a third interview in 2005-2006.
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A good support group is the best help you can get.
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The results are similar, statistically, because most any addiction is “finally” ended, with no more relapse, when the person finally simply decides to take control, and quit, in spite of the pull of the addiction and with or without medical/drug support.
Some people will use medical/drug support to help them get to the point where they will take control (because they believe they need it); and some people will go it alone. But success comes with sustaining the decision to quit (take control of the choice) and, at least statistically, the success and relapse rates are about the same.
However, it is a statistic, and therefor IT DOES NOT MEAN that the medical/drug support is not helpful IN SOME CASES.
Just quit cold turkey.
If not, you will just keep paying those extra taxes, but for a shorter amount of time.
Considering the taxes we pay, we smokers should soon become the darlings of the government- and therefore of the media.
I’d quit smoking tomorrow but murder’s still illegal.
I have quit cold turkey and stayed off for 5 or more years three different times. I am now on year 8 of the third attempt; I think I’ve finally beat it. Of course, nearly $10 a pack will definitely keep me off of them!
People looking for a easy way out are not yet motivated to the point they will quit for good. Go into it with the attitude quitting will be tough. Very, very tough, but it only takes a few weeks to get over the hump.
And don’t try and quit anything else at the same time. Drink, eat - whatever. One thing at a time.
You "smokers" will live a hell of a lot longer than the average male homosexual, as has been proven in a number of studies. Better that the feds help to work with homosexuals to get them to stop their destructive behavior than push smokers around.
Besides, just where in the hell is there anything about smoking in our Constitution? Nanny state gone crazy! We have a heavy smoker in our White House (he's also an illegal alien), and nothing is said about him.
I still like nicotine. I just get it from electronic cigarettes instead of burning a leaf.
It tastes a lot better and I don’t smell. And I feel great.
But what I’ve been trying to explain to you for the last 5 years is that this is not about smoking, this is all about $$$$$$$$$$money.
Electronic cigarettes cost THE STATE billions of dollars in lost tax revenue, and Big PhRma is not happy that they spent all this money on smoking bans to get people to buy their gums, patches and lozenges in order to coerce smokers to quit, only to have a brilliant inventor sabotage their profit.
They have tried to kill e-cigs in the womb before it grew up to kick their butt. It’s like a Terminator movie. Thankfully, they lost in court.
Actually, Chantix did work for me. I didn’t think it would, but, I was wrong. Smoked for over 30 years. Didn’t really have a strong desire to quit. The side effects of depression are unpleasant but I was expecting it so was able to handle it. It definitely took me more than the one week to stop, but not much longer. Maybe 2 weeks? It’s been 14 months now....I have no desire for a cigarette but miss the smoking. Miss it like an old friend. No relapses at all. Whoo Hoo!
Speaking from experience, you need to be MISERABLE during the first couple of weeks so that you won’t dare start smoking again. If you try to soften the pain in any way you won’t get that message. I had nightmares for years about taking a puff and having to quit all over again.
That’s what I try to tell my wife. She won’t stop smoking because she doesn’t want to gain weight.
For anybody trying to stop smoking.
The nicotene gum and patches did nothing for me. I was chewing the gum and smoking at the same time.
I smoked 3 packs a day for years.
I stopped smoking in may 2011 and have not smoked since. I use the electronic cigarette. Works for me. At first it was costing me $80 a week (not much difference from smoking real cigarettes) but I managed to bargain around for different brands and got the cost down to about $30 a week.
I have had no desire to smoke real cigs. The e cigs are working for me.
Sorry. I meant that last link for someone else
I don’t think I ever disputed the government’s taxation motive.
Smoking bans are well accepted in most places and will be universal in the US in five years.
I voted against the ban in Austin, but it did pass. Interestingly, a court instructed the local PD not to enforce it and bars and people comply with the ban 95%.
I tried Chantix. Gave me strange dreams, upset stomache and only slight decrease in my desire for smoking.
But I know some relatives and friends who did Chantix and quit smoking successfully. I do recommend Chantix to try to quit.
Chantix falls under the category of “let’s kill them for their own good”. It shuts down the pleasure receptors in your brain and there have been many cases of suicide and depression. Full disclosure...
My mother in law quit using Chantix. She is still nuts. Now she just runs around the house chasing my kids for dropping cracker crumbs. She has OCD.
I disagree with your conclusion. It seems to me that if you have an equal chance of long-term success with either method, that you should choose whichever method is most effective for you, personally. If you want to quit smoking and cold turkey works for you, then go for it. But if you relapse with a cold turkey approach, you have the option of either trying it again or trying one of those products.
Yep, another way to look at the results is: “over-the-counter medication such as nicotine patches are just as effective as cold turkey.”
So use whichever you wish.
But no federal funding either way.
It’s not my conclusion. I’m just a dumbass with an internet connection.
My only point is that intelligent grown adults with life experience know enough to ask when it comes to any dealings in life is...
“What is their motive”?
“Why would they lie?”
Conflict of interest.
I am not advocating any pill but it has been said that it is as hard to quit smoking as it is to get off heroine.
LOL! Yeah, you’re right.
The government wants any taxpayers demonized- to justify taxing them more. And the media obliges.
I’ve gone through 100 plus batteries and atomizers that crap out. It’s still in the Commodore 64 stage of development.
But it’s just another example of statists pushing a central planning agenda, only to have human inventiveness kick their ass up and down the sidewalk for public amusement.
Quitting smpkling is miuch easier if ou realize that for the first week you will have WITDRAWAL SYMPTOMS
Insomnia, nervousnes, yes- you will be crawling the walls
Prepare for it with some sleeping pills at night and valium during the day and in ONE WEEK they go away
(but you have to go 100% cold turkey- no cheating or it is worse)
BS! I smoked for 30 years. I had no real desire to quit even though I knew I should. I loved to smoke. Doing without cigs was not an option.
I tried Chantix just out of curiosity. It totally took away the need for cigarettes. I kept smoking but it was less and less until I realized that my prescription was up in 3 weeks. At that point I just quit buying cigs.
No withdrawal. No craving. No temptation. If you can take Chantix DO IT! (Not every one can.)
Best way to quit smoking is to change your mindset. Smokers want to quit but fear trying for a variety of reasons. Erase those thoughts and focus on the positive things and the benefits of quitting. Then, just quit for tomorrow only. Once tomorrow is over, quit for tomorrow again. And repeat the process. Take it a day at a time, don’t brag to family, friends, and co-workers, and note the day you quit. Each day that passes is one more day away from that day and one more huge feather in your cap. And, finally, be proud of your daily accomplishment. Feel good about yourself!
I see they no longer have a website, but Amazon.com has it. Amazon
Very funny, I like it.
fyi...The success rate of NRT is about 5-10%. If there was any other pharmaceutical product or medicine on the market that failed 90% of the time, what do you think would happen to it?
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I quit cold turkey the first time and it lasted for 3 years then I started back smoking but never smoked heavily again. Then I quit cold turkey the 2nd time 13 years ago and I can’t imagine I would ever start up again.
If you are really addicted like I was I would advise waiting until you are sick with a bad cold and don’t smoke for a week or so due to illness. By the time you feel well enough to smoke again you are past the worst part of the withdrawal already. Then its just a mental decision not to start up again. Thats what I did.
"I can make a firm pledge, under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."
Obama's new tobacco tax went into effect.
It was a better quitting tool than nicotine replacement.
God,will this ridiculous topic(smoking) ever end?
Aren’t there other more important things that these geniuses could research?
Laura Bush is no longer First Lady.
Great pic,and I’m heading there.
For those that say kicking the smoking habit (Note: habit, NOT addiction) is as hard as stopping herion I say BULL!
Believe me, stopping a hard drug addiction (pain meds, herion, meth, cocain, etc) is magnitudes of difference harder than breaking the smoking habit.
I know from experience.
“A good support group is the best help you can get.”
Perhaps for some, but I found that just having the will to quit was enough for me after fifty years of smoking.
The Democrats approved taxing my smokes for some insurance program I disagreed with, and I said eff you, and quit cold turkey.
I guess that is called motivation.
Coming up on seven years as an ex-smoker.
One morning I got up, threw away my caigs and ashtrays, put the lighters in the toolbox and camping gear, and was very nervous and testy for about a week.
No gum, no “mints”, no nothin’.
Got into a fight on FR within the past couple years about whether it is possible to break an addiction through sheer willpower.
I maintain that either (a) it is possible, or (b) enjoyment of tobacco and distress at its absence don’t indicate an addiciton.
This book worked for me and several friends. The key is to understand that you are not depriving yourself of a pleasure. If you don’t accept this, you will always crave a cig and eventually break down and fail. This book makes it all click and it was written by a 4-pack a day smoker.
A pill called Chantix worked for me and I have had no desire for a cigarette in more than 4 years. I smoked and took Chantix until I realized the nicotene was doing nothing for me and that was it, never another desire. I loved the dreams. Great entertainment.
Maybe they can get money from the dept of energy to come up with some scheme to try to control the temperature of a tiny planet in a vast solar system like a thermostat.
Some people committed suicide after taking Chantix.
Others had weird dreams about an America hating Marxist with no experience or ability getting elected POTUS.
Speaking of Chantix, there was a funny SNL skit about Chantix.
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