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Quit smoking: A new case for going cold turkey
Fox News via Wall Street Journal ^ | January 10, 2012 | Grant Junkie

Posted on 01/11/2012 5:36:35 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084

A new study suggests cigarette smokers who quit after using over-the-counter medication such as nicotine patches are just as likely to relapse as smokers who go "cold turkey," casting fresh doubt on the effectiveness of such products.

The finding, from a survey of several hundred smokers, could heighten U.S. smoking-policy debates at a time when the federal health-care overhaul is widening eligibility for cessation medication but states are slashing funding for public-service announcements and telephone quit lines.

The study by researchers at the Harvard School of Public Health and University of Massachusetts Boston also coincides with slowing progress to get Americans to kick the cigarette habit, which the U.S. government says is linked to 443,000 deaths and $96 billion in medical costs each year. An estimated 19.3 percent of adults still smoked cigarettes in 2010, little changed from 20.9 percent in 2004.

In research published Monday in the online edition of Tobacco Control, a peer-reviewed journal, the authors said they surveyed 787 smokers in 2001-2002 who had recently quit in Massachusetts. Nearly one-third who participated in a follow-up interview in 2003-2004 reported having relapsed and almost one-third again reported relapsing in a third interview in 2005-2006.

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Apparently the Big PhRma crony capitalists didn't pay these researchers. They told the truth. Glaxo, Pfizer, JNJ finance the anti smoking movement to push their nicotine.

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1 posted on 01/11/2012 5:36:37 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084
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The idea that there is a pill that will help you quit smoking is just plain STUPID. Quiting smoking is sheer will power. Someone convinced you that pills, gum whatever would help?? They don't keep you from picking up a cigarette, you do...all by yourself.

A good support group is the best help you can get.

2 posted on 01/11/2012 5:41:15 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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3 posted on 01/11/2012 5:41:28 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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4 posted on 01/11/2012 5:46:06 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Eric Blair 2084

The results are similar, statistically, because most any addiction is “finally” ended, with no more relapse, when the person finally simply decides to take control, and quit, in spite of the pull of the addiction and with or without medical/drug support.

Some people will use medical/drug support to help them get to the point where they will take control (because they believe they need it); and some people will go it alone. But success comes with sustaining the decision to quit (take control of the choice) and, at least statistically, the success and relapse rates are about the same.

However, it is a statistic, and therefor IT DOES NOT MEAN that the medical/drug support is not helpful IN SOME CASES.


5 posted on 01/11/2012 5:47:19 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Just quit cold turkey.

If not, you will just keep paying those extra taxes, but for a shorter amount of time.


6 posted on 01/11/2012 5:48:08 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Considering the taxes we pay, we smokers should soon become the darlings of the government- and therefore of the media.


7 posted on 01/11/2012 5:51:30 PM PST by mrsmith (It's 2012 now. Have you found a Tea Party nominee for your House seat yet?)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I’d quit smoking tomorrow but murder’s still illegal.


8 posted on 01/11/2012 5:54:29 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Wuli

I have quit cold turkey and stayed off for 5 or more years three different times. I am now on year 8 of the third attempt; I think I’ve finally beat it. Of course, nearly $10 a pack will definitely keep me off of them!


9 posted on 01/11/2012 5:55:17 PM PST by j_tull ("I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.")
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To: Eric Blair 2084

People looking for a easy way out are not yet motivated to the point they will quit for good. Go into it with the attitude quitting will be tough. Very, very tough, but it only takes a few weeks to get over the hump.

And don’t try and quit anything else at the same time. Drink, eat - whatever. One thing at a time.


10 posted on 01/11/2012 5:57:16 PM PST by expat1000
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To: mrsmith
Considering the taxes we pay, we smokers should soon become the darlings of the government- and therefore of the media.

You "smokers" will live a hell of a lot longer than the average male homosexual, as has been proven in a number of studies. Better that the feds help to work with homosexuals to get them to stop their destructive behavior than push smokers around.

Besides, just where in the hell is there anything about smoking in our Constitution? Nanny state gone crazy! We have a heavy smoker in our White House (he's also an illegal alien), and nothing is said about him.

11 posted on 01/11/2012 5:58:17 PM PST by laweeks
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To: trumandogz

I still like nicotine. I just get it from electronic cigarettes instead of burning a leaf.

It tastes a lot better and I don’t smell. And I feel great.

But what I’ve been trying to explain to you for the last 5 years is that this is not about smoking, this is all about $$$$$$$$$$money.

Electronic cigarettes cost THE STATE billions of dollars in lost tax revenue, and Big PhRma is not happy that they spent all this money on smoking bans to get people to buy their gums, patches and lozenges in order to coerce smokers to quit, only to have a brilliant inventor sabotage their profit.

They have tried to kill e-cigs in the womb before it grew up to kick their butt. It’s like a Terminator movie. Thankfully, they lost in court.


12 posted on 01/11/2012 5:59:54 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Sacajaweau

Actually, Chantix did work for me. I didn’t think it would, but, I was wrong. Smoked for over 30 years. Didn’t really have a strong desire to quit. The side effects of depression are unpleasant but I was expecting it so was able to handle it. It definitely took me more than the one week to stop, but not much longer. Maybe 2 weeks? It’s been 14 months now....I have no desire for a cigarette but miss the smoking. Miss it like an old friend. No relapses at all. Whoo Hoo!


13 posted on 01/11/2012 6:02:01 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Sacajaweau

Speaking from experience, you need to be MISERABLE during the first couple of weeks so that you won’t dare start smoking again. If you try to soften the pain in any way you won’t get that message. I had nightmares for years about taking a puff and having to quit all over again.


14 posted on 01/11/2012 6:03:07 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: expat1000

That’s what I try to tell my wife. She won’t stop smoking because she doesn’t want to gain weight.


15 posted on 01/11/2012 6:06:18 PM PST by NotSoFreeStater (If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

For anybody trying to stop smoking.

The nicotene gum and patches did nothing for me. I was chewing the gum and smoking at the same time.

I smoked 3 packs a day for years.

I stopped smoking in may 2011 and have not smoked since. I use the electronic cigarette. Works for me. At first it was costing me $80 a week (not much difference from smoking real cigarettes) but I managed to bargain around for different brands and got the cost down to about $30 a week.

I have had no desire to smoke real cigs. The e cigs are working for me.


16 posted on 01/11/2012 6:08:04 PM PST by tsowellfan (I dont need to read the papers. Rush & Mark do it for me)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2831763/posts?page=16#16


17 posted on 01/11/2012 6:09:31 PM PST by tsowellfan (I dont need to read the papers. Rush & Mark do it for me)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Sorry. I meant that last link for someone else


18 posted on 01/11/2012 6:10:40 PM PST by tsowellfan (I dont need to read the papers. Rush & Mark do it for me)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I don’t think I ever disputed the government’s taxation motive.

Smoking bans are well accepted in most places and will be universal in the US in five years.

I voted against the ban in Austin, but it did pass. Interestingly, a court instructed the local PD not to enforce it and bars and people comply with the ban 95%.


19 posted on 01/11/2012 6:13:23 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: Jrabbit

I tried Chantix. Gave me strange dreams, upset stomache and only slight decrease in my desire for smoking.

But I know some relatives and friends who did Chantix and quit smoking successfully. I do recommend Chantix to try to quit.


20 posted on 01/11/2012 6:14:21 PM PST by tsowellfan (I dont need to read the papers. Rush & Mark do it for me)
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To: Jrabbit

Chantix falls under the category of “let’s kill them for their own good”. It shuts down the pleasure receptors in your brain and there have been many cases of suicide and depression. Full disclosure...

My mother in law quit using Chantix. She is still nuts. Now she just runs around the house chasing my kids for dropping cracker crumbs. She has OCD.


21 posted on 01/11/2012 6:14:41 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I disagree with your conclusion. It seems to me that if you have an equal chance of long-term success with either method, that you should choose whichever method is most effective for you, personally. If you want to quit smoking and cold turkey works for you, then go for it. But if you relapse with a cold turkey approach, you have the option of either trying it again or trying one of those products.


22 posted on 01/11/2012 6:15:36 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (I also think that Obama should be defeated.)
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To: mrsmith
Considering the taxes we pay, we smokers should soon become the darlings of the government- and therefore of the media.

Just like they do with "The Rich".
23 posted on 01/11/2012 6:18:33 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (I also think that Obama should be defeated.)
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To: Wuli

Yep, another way to look at the results is: “over-the-counter medication such as nicotine patches are just as effective as cold turkey.”

So use whichever you wish.

But no federal funding either way.


24 posted on 01/11/2012 6:19:48 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

It’s not my conclusion. I’m just a dumbass with an internet connection.

My only point is that intelligent grown adults with life experience know enough to ask when it comes to any dealings in life is...

“What is their motive”?

“Why would they lie?”

Conflict of interest.


25 posted on 01/11/2012 6:20:37 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Sacajaweau

I am not advocating any pill but it has been said that it is as hard to quit smoking as it is to get off heroine.


26 posted on 01/11/2012 6:25:38 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Question Liberal Authority

LOL! Yeah, you’re right.

The government wants any taxpayers demonized- to justify taxing them more. And the media obliges.


27 posted on 01/11/2012 6:29:57 PM PST by mrsmith (It's 2012 now. Have you found a Tea Party nominee for your House seat yet?)
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To: tsowellfan

I’ve gone through 100 plus batteries and atomizers that crap out. It’s still in the Commodore 64 stage of development.

But it’s just another example of statists pushing a central planning agenda, only to have human inventiveness kick their ass up and down the sidewalk for public amusement.


28 posted on 01/11/2012 6:30:13 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Right, but if 1/3 of the participants relapsed, it means that 2/3 of the participants did not relapse.

I've never smoked, but I have successfully lost 40 pounds and kept it off. My experience has been that different approaches work for different people, but some people will be very zealous about an approach that worked for them.

For instance, our First Lady keeps fit and trim by ordering people around and demanding that they reorder their lives to fit her personal world view, while our President keeps fit and trim by smoking cigarettes and eating cheeseburgers when his wife is out of town.
29 posted on 01/11/2012 6:33:04 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (I also think that Obama should be defeated.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Quitting smpkling is miuch easier if ou realize that for the first week you will have WITDRAWAL SYMPTOMS

Insomnia, nervousnes, yes- you will be crawling the walls

Prepare for it with some sleeping pills at night and valium during the day and in ONE WEEK they go away

(but you have to go 100% cold turkey- no cheating or it is worse)


30 posted on 01/11/2012 6:35:45 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Sacajaweau
The idea that there is a pill that will help you quit smoking is just plain STUPID. Quiting smoking is sheer will power. Someone convinced you that pills, gum whatever would help?? They don't keep you from picking up a cigarette, you do...all by yourself.

BS! I smoked for 30 years. I had no real desire to quit even though I knew I should. I loved to smoke. Doing without cigs was not an option.

I tried Chantix just out of curiosity. It totally took away the need for cigarettes. I kept smoking but it was less and less until I realized that my prescription was up in 3 weeks. At that point I just quit buying cigs.

No withdrawal. No craving. No temptation. If you can take Chantix DO IT! (Not every one can.)

31 posted on 01/11/2012 6:38:35 PM PST by OSHA (One despises and wants to destroy the United States, the other is a dead terrorist.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Best way to quit smoking is to change your mindset. Smokers want to quit but fear trying for a variety of reasons. Erase those thoughts and focus on the positive things and the benefits of quitting. Then, just quit for tomorrow only. Once tomorrow is over, quit for tomorrow again. And repeat the process. Take it a day at a time, don’t brag to family, friends, and co-workers, and note the day you quit. Each day that passes is one more day away from that day and one more huge feather in your cap. And, finally, be proud of your daily accomplishment. Feel good about yourself!


32 posted on 01/11/2012 6:43:35 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: Eric Blair 2084
I quit about 15 years ago using a program called Lifesigns. Probably the most painless way to do it, at least in my case. The gist of it, is you continue to smoke as you are quitting. I know that sounds strange, but it's a program where you smoke as much as you want for a couple of weeks, but each time you smoke you click a little computer that you carry in your pocket. At the end of the time period the computer then tells you when to smoke. Long story short, at the end of whatever period the computer decides you have that's it. I know the last day I smoked I didn't even want that cigarette. It was a fabulous program for me, and I've never relapsed.

I see they no longer have a website, but Amazon.com has it. Amazon

33 posted on 01/11/2012 6:44:05 PM PST by mupcat
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To: Question Liberal Authority

Very funny, I like it.

fyi...The success rate of NRT is about 5-10%. If there was any other pharmaceutical product or medicine on the market that failed 90% of the time, what do you think would happen to it?


34 posted on 01/11/2012 6:44:56 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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35 posted on 01/11/2012 6:48:25 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Eric Blair 2084
If there was any other pharmaceutical product or medicine on the market that failed 90% of the time, what do you think would happen to it?

Well, Lipitor only reduces total mortality by something like 1%, so I imagine that the drug you describe could be the most prescribed medicine on the face of the Earth.
36 posted on 01/11/2012 6:57:05 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (I also think that Obama should be defeated.)
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To: j_tull

I quit cold turkey the first time and it lasted for 3 years then I started back smoking but never smoked heavily again. Then I quit cold turkey the 2nd time 13 years ago and I can’t imagine I would ever start up again.

If you are really addicted like I was I would advise waiting until you are sick with a bad cold and don’t smoke for a week or so due to illness. By the time you feel well enough to smoke again you are past the worst part of the withdrawal already. Then its just a mental decision not to start up again. Thats what I did.


37 posted on 01/11/2012 7:06:06 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
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38 posted on 01/11/2012 7:07:45 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
I quit on April 1st, 2009; The day that Barack

"I can make a firm pledge, under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

Obama's new tobacco tax went into effect.

It was a better quitting tool than nicotine replacement.

39 posted on 01/11/2012 7:20:31 PM PST by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

God,will this ridiculous topic(smoking) ever end?

Aren’t there other more important things that these geniuses could research?


40 posted on 01/11/2012 7:28:28 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
our First Lady keeps fit and trim

Laura Bush is no longer First Lady.

41 posted on 01/11/2012 7:30:16 PM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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42 posted on 01/11/2012 7:31:54 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
#1 - You have to have the desire to quit.
#2 - You have to have the will to quit.

For those that say kicking the smoking habit (Note: habit, NOT addiction) is as hard as stopping herion I say BULL!

Believe me, stopping a hard drug addiction (pain meds, herion, meth, cocain, etc) is magnitudes of difference harder than breaking the smoking habit.
I know from experience.

43 posted on 01/11/2012 7:35:31 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Sacajaweau

“A good support group is the best help you can get.”

Perhaps for some, but I found that just having the will to quit was enough for me after fifty years of smoking.

The Democrats approved taxing my smokes for some insurance program I disagreed with, and I said eff you, and quit cold turkey.

I guess that is called motivation.


44 posted on 01/11/2012 7:36:10 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Coming up on seven years as an ex-smoker.

One morning I got up, threw away my caigs and ashtrays, put the lighters in the toolbox and camping gear, and was very nervous and testy for about a week.

No gum, no “mints”, no nothin’.

Got into a fight on FR within the past couple years about whether it is possible to break an addiction through sheer willpower.

I maintain that either (a) it is possible, or (b) enjoyment of tobacco and distress at its absence don’t indicate an addiciton.


45 posted on 01/11/2012 8:02:34 PM PST by ExGeeEye (It will take a revolution to reinstate the constitution. #HT FtP#)
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To: Mears

This book worked for me and several friends. The key is to understand that you are not depriving yourself of a pleasure. If you don’t accept this, you will always crave a cig and eventually break down and fail. This book makes it all click and it was written by a 4-pack a day smoker.

http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Carrs-Easyway-Stop-Smoking/dp/0615482155/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326340133&sr=8-1


46 posted on 01/11/2012 8:04:22 PM PST by bigtoona
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To: Eric Blair 2084

A pill called Chantix worked for me and I have had no desire for a cigarette in more than 4 years. I smoked and took Chantix until I realized the nicotene was doing nothing for me and that was it, never another desire. I loved the dreams. Great entertainment.


47 posted on 01/11/2012 8:07:38 PM PST by tinamina
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To: Mears

Maybe they can get money from the dept of energy to come up with some scheme to try to control the temperature of a tiny planet in a vast solar system like a thermostat.


48 posted on 01/11/2012 8:30:38 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: tinamina

Some people committed suicide after taking Chantix.

Others had weird dreams about an America hating Marxist with no experience or ability getting elected POTUS.


49 posted on 01/11/2012 8:43:08 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: tinamina

Speaking of Chantix, there was a funny SNL skit about Chantix.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/317024/saturday-night-live-chantix


50 posted on 01/11/2012 8:44:27 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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