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BREAKING: US Jobless Claims Rise 'More than Expected' This Week, Up By 24,000 to 399,000
FOX Nation ^ | 1/12/2012 | MarketWatch

Posted on 01/12/2012 6:05:35 AM PST by nhwingut

WASHINGTON — The number of Americans filing initial claims for regular state unemployment benefits rose by 24,000 to a seasonally-adjusted 399,000, the Labor Department said Thursday.

Economists surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires expected claims to rise by 8,000 to 380,000 in the week ended Jan. 7. Claims from the prior week were revised up to 375,000 from 372,000.

The average of new claims over the past four weeks increased by 7,750 to 381,750.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: employment; unemployment; unexpected
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To: KarlInOhio

“...the odds of needing to be adjusted upward every week of the year is 0.0000000000000222%.”

Which coincidently is equal to brain activity in leading economists.


21 posted on 01/12/2012 6:37:03 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: nhwingut

Obama was in Chicago last night saying he’s just getting started. Needs 4 more years. Why should he stop at 4? He’s doing such a good job soon we’ll all be setting our 4 year old kids on the curb because we can’t afford to feed them like they’re doing in Greece.

Illinois has worse credit rating in the nation. Chicago Way is why. Barack is the child the the Chicago Way raised and trained after he was dropped off by God knows who on America’s curb.


22 posted on 01/12/2012 6:37:03 AM PST by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

They don’t want to cross the 400,000 barrier. Sounds worse than 399,000. It is just a marketing technique. Instead of something costing $10, it is $9.99.


23 posted on 01/12/2012 6:37:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: RC one
“so, in other words, 399,000 people lost their jobs last week”

Anyone see the significance in this 399,000 number? Odumbo’s boys in Labor made it so. I guarantee it is higher, but Gov, cooked the books to stay away from the negative physiological number of 400,000. Of course next week it will be revised to 403k, but that won't hit the news.

24 posted on 01/12/2012 6:38:42 AM PST by DAC21
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To: DAC21

Oops, should have been “psychological”


25 posted on 01/12/2012 6:42:38 AM PST by DAC21
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To: nhwingut

“Whoops” goes the weasel!


26 posted on 01/12/2012 6:46:51 AM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.)
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To: nhwingut

Inconceivably unexpected !!!
DRINK !

Surprise!...
Surprise!!...
Surprise!!!...

27 posted on 01/12/2012 6:46:59 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: mewzilla

Reading between the lines of this report, it seems that inflation is contributing factor and to guage the true measure of economic output, one has to adjust inflation out. I don’t see where they did that in this report.

If ‘sales’, as determined by an absolute dollar amount, are up one percent, but inflation is up two percent, then sales haven’t risen. They’ve fallen one percent.

It’s like saying ‘there were 200,000 jobs created last month’. But the working age population increased 300,000 and thus the labor participation rate (which is the ultimate true employment measure IMHO) fell. They are cherry-picking the numbers at best, and outright fabricating them at worst, all to enhance the image of the Wun.

I used to work with closely watched descriptive statistics of a specific measure of societal function. I could make any number of manipulations to demonstrate any point I wanted to, so long as the recipient of the statistic was passive, had no access to the raw data, and had no clue or concern for the context.

We are being played.


28 posted on 01/12/2012 6:49:03 AM PST by SargeK
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To: Mr. K

“They trumpeted the lower jobless rate last month as if they had completely forgotten Christmas occurred”

That happens when you’re muslim.


29 posted on 01/12/2012 6:49:38 AM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: DAC21
Of course next week it will be revised to 403k, but that won't hit the news

I already have the memo...Winstom Smith.

30 posted on 01/12/2012 6:50:17 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: nhwingut
Bear in mind that the +24,000 number is seasonly adjusted which in this case is a dampening effect based on the assumption that post-holiday layoffs occur, the raw number (i.e., non seasonly adjusted) is +102,314 claims in the first week of the year.

Continuing claims also rose above expectations, rising to 3.62M from a revised 3.60M (the expectation was an unchanged figure (pre-revision), of 3.59M). Even worse 48,000 more people are dropping off the rolls (past 99 weeks) and are "disappearing" from the labor force completely. The Labor Force Participation rate at the end of January will most likely fall again to another 30+ year low.

31 posted on 01/12/2012 6:50:24 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: nhwingut

Holidays are over. Unemployment goes up. Who would have thunk it?.........................obviously not the government drones....................


32 posted on 01/12/2012 6:50:54 AM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: nhwingut

you would think then, that the unemployment figures for January should be back to 9%...right?


33 posted on 01/12/2012 6:51:47 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: DAC21

they also lead with the 24,000 number to draw attention away from the real number, 399,000 newly unemployed people in the first week of January.


34 posted on 01/12/2012 6:53:09 AM PST by RC one (Scorch the earth Newt. Scorch it.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“Seasonally adjusted” means Obama’s Special Butt-Sauce.


35 posted on 01/12/2012 6:55:36 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SargeK
But the working age population increased 300,000 and thus the labor participation rate (which is the ultimate true employment measure IMHO) fell.

The unemployment statistics have become meaningless. If the Republican candidates had an ounce of savvy between them they would hammer on the LFPR and ignore the unemployment rate.

36 posted on 01/12/2012 7:01:28 AM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: nhwingut

Obummer recovery: HOPE for a better result, and CHANGE for the worse.


37 posted on 01/12/2012 7:06:06 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: nhwingut
I am STUNNED, STUNNED I tell ya, STUNNED............ NOT!
38 posted on 01/12/2012 7:06:51 AM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: SargeK

Thank you. It is expertise analysis like yours that causes me to consider FR the finest source of news and analysis on the internet.


39 posted on 01/12/2012 7:10:21 AM PST by hampdenkid
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To: nhwingut

...so let’s cut through the bullsh*t...how many people are UNEMPLOYED in this country? Right now. Claims are only part of the story, and we all know it. What about the people that have given up looking? How do we count them? How many are there?


40 posted on 01/12/2012 7:19:40 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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