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Magazine editorial reveals shocking disparity between sizes of models and real women
FoxNews.com ^ | January 12, 2012

Posted on 01/12/2012 8:24:46 AM PST by US Navy Vet

A size 6 is now plus size in the fashion world, and most runway models meet the physical criteria for anorexia, according to a report that offers shocking insight into the disparity between models and the real-life women they are purporting to represent.

In the January issue of PLUS Model Magazine, plus size model Katya Zharkova and a straight size model are seen in the nude in an attempt to “open the minds of the fashion industry," which is stepping further away from reality, according to PLUS founder and editor-in-chief, Madeline Figueroa Jones.

Photo courtesy of PLUS Model Magazine.

The magazine reveals that some of today’s plus size models are wearing the same size as models Christie Brinkley, Paulina Porizkova and Cindy Crawford at the height of their fame in the 1990s. Zharkova, 28, wears a size 14

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To: beandog

“I also don’t believe for one moment that Cindy Crawford, or any of the other models listed was ever a size 14.”

I met Kathy Ireland years back. She was always listed as the “short chubby model”, yet, she is tall and very thin. If you see her next to other models she does appear “thicker” than them. Models have always been very thin, and I don’t think they are any thinner.

I work with a woman that is built like a runway model and is a ballerina. She is 110 pounds and 5’8”. Very thin, yet, even she would look fat next to most models.


51 posted on 01/12/2012 9:19:19 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: null and void

You’re getting freepmail!


52 posted on 01/12/2012 9:19:47 AM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: mamelukesabre

“I think if you go back to the 1950s and 1940s, you will find that the models and movie stars actually weighed MORE than the average single woman on the street. “

That is an excellent point. Marilyn Monroe was chubby as were many of the starlets of the time. My favorite woman is a full figured gal, not fat, but curvy. Thinner women can be very attractive but I’ve always found a woman with an adult figure versus a pubescent figure was hot.


53 posted on 01/12/2012 9:22:40 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Gabz

That’s because you’re tall.


54 posted on 01/12/2012 9:25:50 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: South Hawthorne

Oh my. I’d bang that like a screen door in a hurricane!


55 posted on 01/12/2012 9:27:22 AM PST by Double Tap
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To: Jeff Chandler

Good lord, man. That’s just wrong on SO many levels.


56 posted on 01/12/2012 9:29:13 AM PST by NCC-1701 (In Memphis on January 20, 2009, pump price were $1.49. We all know what happened after that.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

She looks great from the chin up...and below the ankles.


57 posted on 01/12/2012 9:30:32 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: US Navy Vet
“Zharkova, 28, wears a size 14”

That's obese!!!!

58 posted on 01/12/2012 9:32:42 AM PST by dalereed
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To: US Navy Vet
In the January issue of PLUS Model Magazine, plus size model Katya Zharkova and a straight size model are seen in the nude in an attempt to “open the minds of the fashion industry," which is stepping further away from reality, according to PLUS founder and editor-in-chief, Madeline Figueroa Jones.

I think obesity is a far greater problem in the US than skinny models. Despite feminists best efforts at indoctrination, men just don't want to hook up with fatties.

59 posted on 01/12/2012 9:33:03 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: US Navy Vet
In the January issue of PLUS Model Magazine, plus size model Katya Zharkova and a straight size model are seen in the nude in an attempt to “open the minds of the fashion industry," which is stepping further away from reality, according to PLUS founder and editor-in-chief, Madeline Figueroa Jones.

I think obesity is a far greater problem in the US than skinny models. Despite feminists best efforts at indoctrination, men just don't want to hook up with fatties.

60 posted on 01/12/2012 9:33:29 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: CodeToad
Just sayin.....



Cheers,

knewshound
61 posted on 01/12/2012 9:34:12 AM PST by knews_hound (Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd. E. Clampus Vitus)
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To: CodeToad

I went to an exhibit of movie stars’ evening gowns — Marilyn Monroe, Elizabeth Taylor, Joan Crawford, Lonnie Anderson, etc. Those women were petite — I would say a size 6 by today’s standards and short. The camera puts on 20 lbs.

I saw Lonnie Anderson in person. Very petite even in heels. I always thought she was tall and voluptuous, but that’s just the camera.


62 posted on 01/12/2012 9:36:10 AM PST by goldi
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To: Drew68

“I remember not too long ago reading about a model who was 5’10” and 157 lbs being told she was too heavy to be a plus-size model.”

Only sutable for a weight reduction ad from a fat farm!


63 posted on 01/12/2012 9:36:48 AM PST by dalereed
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To: Jeff Chandler

That pic is just disturbing.


64 posted on 01/12/2012 9:37:09 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (Waiting for the new tagline to download)
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To: cincinnati65

The “Twiggy” trend started back in 1960s.
Read more about it here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twiggy

Twiggy and the magazines featuring her image polarised critics from the start. Her boyishly thin image was criticized as, and is still blamed for, promoting an “unhealthy” body ideal for women.[31][32] “Twiggy came along at a time when teen-age spending power was never greater,” said Su Dalgleish, fashion correspondent for the London Daily Mail. “With that underdeveloped, boyish figure, she is an idol to the 14- and 15-year-old kids. She makes virtue of all the terrible things of gawky, miserable, adolescence.”[33] At the height of her fame, Mark Cohen, president of Leeds women’s shop had an even harsher view: “Her legs remind me of two painted worms.” Yet Twiggy had her supporters. Diana Vreeland of Vogue stated, “She’s no flash in the pan. She is the mini-girl in the mini-era. She’s delicious looking.”[33] In recent years Twiggy has spoken out against the trend of waif-thin models, explaining that her own thin weight as a teenager was natural: “”I was very skinny, but that was just my natural build. I always ate sensibly – being thin was in my genes.”

Twiggy was soon seen in all the leading fashion magazines, commanding fees of £80 an hour, bringing out her own line of clothes called “Twiggy Dresses” in 1967,[24] and taking the fashion world by storm.[25] “I hated what I looked like,” she said once, “so I thought everyone had gone stark raving mad.”[21] Twiggy’s look centered on three qualities: her stick thin figure, a boyishly short haircut[6] and strikingly dark eyelashes.[26] Describing how she obtained her prominent eyelashes, now known as Twiggys, she said, “Back then I was layering three pairs of false eyelashes over my own and would paint extra ‘twigs’ on my skin underneath.


65 posted on 01/12/2012 9:37:33 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: knews_hound

Amen, brother, amen. And... whew.


66 posted on 01/12/2012 9:40:45 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

In order to please the homo-centric fashion industry, the girls have to diet down to skin and bones.
Then, when they are no longer attractive to real men due to lack of curves, they have to head to the plastic surgeon’s office for various strategically placed pads of silicone.

it’s insane.


67 posted on 01/12/2012 9:42:45 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Lady Lucky; US Navy Vet
WTF is with the "size" thing anyway. They have started making these damn droopy blue jeans for men that are "Relaxed Fit" so they droop off your butt and balloon around the thighs. Try riding your horse in those bloomers, they'll chafe you to death.

Since everything is made in China, maybe we ought to straighten them out about the shape of the occidental human. My research lab over to the Wal-Mart lot has also convinced me that many Americans should not be allowed to leave their homes. Why the hell are we all dressing like ragamuffins?

68 posted on 01/12/2012 9:44:18 AM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
This is what "red-blooded, heterosexual men" prefer:

Thank you, God. ;-)

69 posted on 01/12/2012 9:47:47 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Try going to the FOX article and clicking the link from there.


70 posted on 01/12/2012 9:53:47 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: mamelukesabre
This is from June, on related note....

Hollywood Auction Ends Myth of Zaftig Marilyn: Virginia Postrel

71 posted on 01/12/2012 10:01:10 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

***The “Twiggy” trend started back in 1960s.***

I remember those days! She was so thin and ugly that Al Capp’s LIL ABNER did a spoof on her with a model named “Icky”


72 posted on 01/12/2012 10:04:16 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Kenny Bunk

***Since everything is made in China, maybe we ought to straighten them out about the shape of the occidental human.***

Ever notice how items made overseas are different even though they are the “same” sizes?

US made shirt fits me. Oriental shirt, same size, does not. Same for shoes and pants, hats.

US made Levis fit me. Mexican, Guatamalan, Honduran and Colombian Levis do not even though they are the same size.


73 posted on 01/12/2012 10:12:04 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Lollipops” all over the media now: Big head, stick body.


74 posted on 01/12/2012 10:33:06 AM PST by twister881
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To: momtothree
I am betting that some of the models we grew up with were a 4 or 6.

I went to art and design school in the 60s, which had a thriving fashion department. Then, in Vogue magazine and the like, "a perfect size 10" was considered the ideal for models.

75 posted on 01/12/2012 10:33:14 AM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: Gabz

In 1965 pattern size I wore was a 12. 5 feet 8 inches and 110. Then it was a 10 when patterns were resized about 1968. I am still the same height and weigh about 118, but now wear a size 6. It is an attempt to make people ignore weight gain. It’s all feel good marketing.


76 posted on 01/12/2012 10:50:57 AM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: Gabz

The solution to all this is to size women’s clothes like men’s - by actual measurement.

If you have a 28” waist, that’s your waist size, and your inseam is 28” then voila.

Of course that would throw the whole “vanity sizing” feel good crap out the window.


77 posted on 01/12/2012 10:54:49 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: mamelukesabre

The average woman was, yes.

What has changed, however, is what the “ideal” is according to Hollywood and the modeling industry.

The “ideal” has gotten less curvy (with an exception among the Latina and Black communities) and more thin and boyish as all of us of both genders have gotten larger.


78 posted on 01/12/2012 10:56:46 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: mamelukesabre
Nowdays a size 6 is a chubby little piggy.

Hardly. Although I agree with the gist of your post.

79 posted on 01/12/2012 10:57:40 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: savagesusie

I have a few thoughts.

Granted, this is coming from a guy who is overweight. However, I think there are two sides to this whole thing and both have some merit.

Yes - we’re fatter than we used to be, but yes, I also think the “ideal” is smaller, not necessarily weight-wise, but body type wise, than it used to be, most models do have a more boyish and thin shape than they used to.

However, I think a basic point of all this is simple. There are some women who do naturally have a larger or curvier body type and that is also beautiful, and that many women cannot and will not ever be a thin boyish waif as it’s not in their bone structure, genetics, or natural build. That’s not the same as saying that everyone should weigh 350 lbs either.


80 posted on 01/12/2012 11:13:09 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: dalereed

Call it whatever you want, but in post 14 she looks damn good.


81 posted on 01/12/2012 11:20:30 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: dalereed

Sounds like something Al Bundy would say...


82 posted on 01/12/2012 11:23:35 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: pacpam

Feel good marketing is right — but it drives me nuts.


83 posted on 01/12/2012 11:27:22 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: RockinRight

I have never figured out sizing for women’s pants. I might own 2 pair. Because I don’t wear pants when I decide to “dress up” I pretty much stick to jeans and only wear men’s. Far easier to buy by the waist and inseam.


84 posted on 01/12/2012 11:33:12 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

I totally agree with you about how they have changed the dress sizes, but totally disagree with you about what sizes were and now are.

I'm 5'10 and 115-125# and have always wore a 10. As I explained in another post, I now wear a 6, which compared to an older 10 is practically identical.

You are completely correct, and other posters are wrong. The dress sizes changed, but in the direction you say they changed. The reason for it is that as American women become more and more overweight, dress sizes grow with them, in order not to make them feel bad.

85 posted on 01/12/2012 11:38:00 AM PST by joe212
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To: Drew68
My wife has the same problem. Despite being 30-years old and having borne me two sons, she remains very small. About 5'1” and 95 lbs. Nothing “adult” fits her at all. We either have to look in the very limited petite section or the age-innapropriate juniors’ or children's section for clothes that fit her.

Your wife is in a minority. She is a normal person in a nation that has become fat. 2/3 of American women are overweight.

It is funny how the fat people are lashing out at models, that they are not “real” (= fat) like them.

86 posted on 01/12/2012 11:56:39 AM PST by joe212
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To: joe212

It’s just a frickin’ number!

We males have to know ACTUAL MEASUREMENTS to buy clothes!!


87 posted on 01/12/2012 11:57:03 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: RockinRight
It’s just a frickin’ number! We males have to know ACTUAL MEASUREMENTS to buy clothes!!

Exactly. I guess males can deal with reality better, they don't need a feel-good number...

88 posted on 01/12/2012 12:01:55 PM PST by joe212
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To: knews_hound

There’s like 4 pounds of silicon in those “curves”.


89 posted on 01/12/2012 12:04:51 PM PST by joe212
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To: RockinRight

You need to look at some old photos of ordinary people of average and below average income from the 1920s. The women were all sticks until middle age and the men were all sticks until retirement age. Children under 15 looked like concentration camp victims. I’ve got dozens of old family photo albums going back to the late 1800s. Up until about 1960, young girls were all so skinny, their knees were the biggest part of their leg. In the 20s, puberty appears to have STARTED around age 16(FOR GIRLS!)...the age when they typically began to marry. My great grandmother married at age 14 to a 30 year old share cropper circa 1900. This was not unusual back then. All of her children that lived were skeletons with skin and hair attached until well past age 20. My own mother was just as skinny until about age 17.


90 posted on 01/12/2012 12:08:03 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Jeff Chandler

EWWWW, she's so FAT!!!!

91 posted on 01/12/2012 12:10:59 PM PST by Lazamataz (Every single decision Obama makes is to harm America.)
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blf...there are bound to be pics...


92 posted on 01/12/2012 12:30:38 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: joe212
The reason for it is that as American women become more and more overweight, dress sizes grow with them, in order not to make them feel bad.

Thus I have to relearn how to shop for clothes in order to protect the self esteem of others.........Got it.

I've known this - but I don't have to like it.

93 posted on 01/12/2012 1:43:59 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: US Navy Vet

My 2 cents worth - most fashion designers are gay men, and they are attracted to young boys - therefore they like women who look like sticks, rather than real women with curves.


94 posted on 01/12/2012 3:47:17 PM PST by Gumdrop
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To: RockinRight

The ideal woman changed drastically with the advent of the first super model-—Twiggy. That was the Marxist/homosexual takeover—this egalitarianism-—to make women the same as men—interchangeable. Androgyny was promoted. This body type was also embodied in Audrey Hepburn and swept all model agencies. The Jane Russel/Marilyn Monroe ideal became too “fat” by the late 60’s, when sodomy rights and man-haters came out in droves.

Feminists were really women haters-—they hated God’s design of their bodies, as they were good godless Communists and wanted to destroy the Patriarchy and get women away from caring for babies, so kids would be emotionally damaged and easily controlled—like ACORN thugs.

It is why we saw the super-sized muscled He-man and emphasis on breast size. Breast enhancement became necessary and normalized. Most normal breast size became ugly and emphasis on breast augmentation make women hate natural breast shape. Women became cartoon characters—objectified—as did muscle men.

It is to destroy dignity and worth of women and men and make them focused on materialism and superficiality—to ignore the intellect so they will be stupid useful idiots.

Once androgyny is pushed-—abnormalities will emerge to establish maleness and femaleness—to differentiate between the sexes. You get the extreme exaggeration because of the Laws of Nature and the natural desires of men and women.

Marxism is all about destroying natural laws—the design of man and woman and biological attachment. It is to create hate and distrust so the state will have to take care of all the dysfunctional and dependent idiots.


95 posted on 01/12/2012 5:17:45 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law.)
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To: Kenny Bunk; US Navy Vet
They have started making these damn droopy blue jeans for men that are "Relaxed Fit" so they droop off your butt and balloon around the thighs.

I call that the "Somebody Stole Muh Clothes" look. Also known as the "I Got No Job" look.

Try riding your horse in those bloomers, they'll chafe you to death.

In our area you see lots of guys in bloomers on bicycles...I believe that's part of the "Busted for DUI" look.

In the old days, people had more class.



96 posted on 01/12/2012 5:42:33 PM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: joe212
My wife has a hell of a time finding anything in size 4 that isn't made for teenyboppers that look like whores!!!
97 posted on 01/12/2012 5:50:03 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Boardwalk
Sorry but that is inaccurate

Runway models maybe be quite thin but real women are fat as hell compared to my youth (54)

A size 4 in 1970 is an 8 at least...

Todays women...especially minority and lower income white are obese more often than not

And most women period are chubby now

These bash models threads are just a distraction.....or rationalization

98 posted on 01/12/2012 7:58:34 PM PST by wardaddy (I fear we cannot beat Roger Ailes and beltway GOP)
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To: wardaddy

I was quoting from the movie The Devil Wears Prada. Good movie.


99 posted on 01/13/2012 12:53:37 AM PST by Boardwalk
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