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Ron Paul seeking to pick off Santorum
Legal Insurrection ^ | 1/12/12 | William Jacobson

Posted on 01/12/2012 6:39:04 PM PST by Lakeshark

Richard Viguerie has an interesting observation regarding the methodology of Ron Paul’s campaign intended to leave Paul as the last not-Romney standing, Ron Paul Goes Bird Hunting:

"Experienced bird hunters and fighter pilots know you don’t aim for the leader of a flight — you start at the back of the flight and work your way forward. This is apparently what Congressman Ron Paul is doing to his opponents in the race for the Republican presidential nomination.

Rather than aim at purported frontrunner Mitt Romney (who should be the number one target of his libertarian supporters), Ron Paul has been working his way through the flock of less well-funded and less well-defined opponents, thinning the field as he goes.

After raking former Speaker Newt Gingrich with fire in Iowa, the libertarian-oriented congressman from Texas has been zeroing-in on former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum in South Carolina."

And zeroing in on Santorum he is, In South Carolina, Paul Renews Santorum Attack:

(Excerpt) Read more at legalinsurrection.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: crazy; crazyuncle; despicable; nut; ronpaul; scumbag; spotthelooney
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Ron Paul is not only a loon of the first degree, he and his diaper rash ilk are going after everyone but Romney.

Despicable.

1 posted on 01/12/2012 6:39:15 PM PST by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

Going after the arguably most conservative man in the race. Nice job Ron. /s


2 posted on 01/12/2012 6:40:32 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Lakeshark
Ron Paul's foreign policy is isolationist. I believe this is very important to him.
Ron Paul's social policy is very Liberal. I believe this is very important to him.
Ron Paul's fiscal policy is Conservative. I believe he'd sacrifice this for the other two.

I believe that Ron Paul is campaigning to get Obama re-elected.

3 posted on 01/12/2012 6:42:35 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: cripplecreek

Why not go after the conservative, Ron Paul IS NOT a conservative but freak’n loon, and he gets worse everyday.


4 posted on 01/12/2012 6:47:00 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Lakeshark
this friggin lunatic needs to get out of the race
5 posted on 01/12/2012 6:52:05 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: cripplecreek

“Going after the arguably most conservative man in the race.”

Would you say that if Santorum accepts Romney’s offer to be vice-president? That’s a real question.


6 posted on 01/12/2012 6:56:32 PM PST by ngat
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To: Lakeshark

I can’t believe people don’t rebel against these commercials...corrupt? Hypocrite? Anyway, it seems Paul thinks Gingrich is done so he is going after Santorum next. Big Mistake. He should keep his foot on Newt’s throat or he will stand back up.


7 posted on 01/12/2012 6:59:13 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: ngat
That’s a real question.

Its a real idiotic question asked by the lowest type of trash.
8 posted on 01/12/2012 7:00:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: cripplecreek

Why Santorum and not Perry or Newt? Maybe because Santorum is the most threat to really taking him out along with Perry, Newt, and Huntsman.


9 posted on 01/12/2012 7:02:19 PM PST by kaki
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To: paul51

ronpaulie will compete in all 50 states all the way through June and in all the state conventions that select the delegates. They are relentless.

the fact that they have outworked the GOP right is troubling. We need to confront this national movement.


10 posted on 01/12/2012 7:03:56 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (and I will go to southern Maine to campaign.)
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To: cripplecreek

Ha! Knew you wouldn’t answer it,’cause you know I’m right.


11 posted on 01/12/2012 7:06:24 PM PST by ngat
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To: ngat

No you are a bottom feeder unworthy of further attention. You don’t have the manhood to admit that Ron Paul has never done anything but help RINOs win, there’s virtually no chance you ever will.


12 posted on 01/12/2012 7:09:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: cripplecreek

And I also knew that you would would try accusing anyone who questions your candidate Santorum’s motives of being for Paul, but I am for Gingrich.

You are pathetic.


13 posted on 01/12/2012 7:13:23 PM PST by ngat
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To: Lakeshark

They are telling us we don’t matter, again. They keep this up and a rebellion of a third party will grow. I hope that would be a conservative party.


14 posted on 01/12/2012 7:14:58 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: Lakeshark

Ron Paul is this century’s Pat Paulsen


15 posted on 01/12/2012 7:18:19 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: kaki
Why Santorum and not Perry or Newt?

Perry doesn't have enough supporters to matter in the long run and has taken himself out of the race, and Newt has too much money backing him for the time being.

Paul maybe hoping that Newt and Romney damage each other or spend a lot of their money dragging each other down, and then he swoops in when they run a little low on cash and dumps millions into new attack ads.

Santorum on the other hand, Paul probably has more money backing him than Santorum, and Santorum was able to pick up a bunch of undecideds in Iowa, and Paul wants undecideds. They are the easiest pickings.

Of course, Paul should not be a major player at all - his backers are mostly Libertarians. South Carolina being an open primary is going to help those Libertarians cross over to the GOP primary and vote for him unfortunately. Numbskulls in South Carolina finally figured out that maybe they shouldn't have an open primary, but it's too late to do anything about it.

If Paul were a Republican, he'd be going after Romney more, but if you're Ron Paul, there is no way in hell you'll be able to get any Romney supporters over to your side. He may have decided that's a lost cause.
16 posted on 01/12/2012 7:22:33 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Lakeshark

There is definetely an alliance between the RINOs and Ron Paul. The Conservative candidates are under attack from the msm and RINOs including Ron Paul. They have been hitting Newt the hardest as I think they think he is the strongest one.


17 posted on 01/12/2012 7:22:33 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: CMailBag

You give Paul too much credit...


18 posted on 01/12/2012 7:29:15 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Lakeshark

Strategically, it makes sense to knock Santorum out of the race. Even Paul supporters know that if Mitt wraps up SC, the primaries will pretty much be over.


19 posted on 01/12/2012 7:29:28 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Ron Paul Goes Bird Hunting

Picking off Santorum as the straggler.
20 posted on 01/12/2012 7:34:03 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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How impolitic of Paul to try to pick off the Evangelical favorite son right before sonny’s big SC lovefest. A stupidity tale, so to speak.


21 posted on 01/12/2012 7:42:17 PM PST by Milhous
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To: ngat

Ron Paul won’t do squat in SC.


22 posted on 01/12/2012 7:46:46 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: Lakeshark

The Gingrich people should be thrilled Paul is attacking Santorum. If Paul betters Santorum for 3rd in SC, Santorum should drop out. The Santorum voters will mostly go to Gingrich. He may then have a chance to win Florida, which would put him right back in the race. Of course, if Santorum is in this solely to assure himself a nice spot in the Romney Administration, he’ll stick it out in Florida, no matter where he finishes in SC.


23 posted on 01/12/2012 7:49:19 PM PST by Big E
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To: Lakeshark; ex-Texan
Just what the Tehran dictatorship needs:


24 posted on 01/12/2012 8:09:13 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never 'free'.)
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To: ngat
You asked a legitimate question.

As far as a VP for Romney, I don't think he will pick anyone we are thinking of including those currently in the race.

No Haley from SC. She was a cheap buy.

We just have to stop him so he doesn't have a chance to pick one.

25 posted on 01/12/2012 8:33:41 PM PST by VicVega (GEAUX SAINTS-LSU bleaux it in the BCS Championship game.)
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To: Parley Baer; NKP_Vet
There is definetely an alliance between the RINOs and Ron Paul. The Conservative candidates are under attack from the msm and RINOs including Ron Paul. They have been hitting Newt the hardest as I think they think he is the strongest one.

Keep an eye out on South Carolina and see how that plays out and how the MSM treats it. South Carolina has an open primary. Democrats and Libertarians will crossover since there is no reason for them to vote in the Democratic primary, and since many know that Romney is unelectable to Conservatives.

Don't be surprised if Romney and RuPaul do better than the polls while everybody else hits their poll numbers or below.

Crossovers didn't matter much in the first two because both of those states were loaded with Romney RINOs, but they'll matter in SC.
26 posted on 01/12/2012 8:59:33 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Big E
Just want to be clear here. If Paul takes 7th, he will not drop out.

Correct?

Now if Gingrich, for some insane reason gets fourth and Santorum takes 2nd with Paul, Perry or Huntsman taking third, does Newt drop out?

I don't think he should nor should Rick.

As long as they have the money, let them keep swinging the bats.

Romney has to go.

27 posted on 01/12/2012 9:03:29 PM PST by VicVega (GEAUX SAINTS-LSU bleaux it in the BCS Championship game.)
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To: Lakeshark; cripplecreek; ClearCase_guy

Cheers!

28 posted on 01/12/2012 9:14:31 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Click


29 posted on 01/12/2012 9:18:41 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I believe that Ron Paul is campaigning to get Obama re-elected.

True, but only when he's not chatting with his best friend (an eight-foot tall invisible rabbit.)

.

30 posted on 01/12/2012 9:31:45 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: af_vet_rr

Agree. ....The open caucas process in IA and open primaries in NH and SC just permit the Dems to “select” the GOP frontrunner they feel they can most easily defeat. They have no problem voting for a weak GOP candidate because their Dem candidate is unopposed in their party.

What occurs is that the more qualified/Conservative candidates find it difficult to get contributions and have to drop out of the race; leaving another lame GOP candidate, like McCain was.


31 posted on 01/12/2012 11:35:09 PM PST by octex
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To: All; Lakeshark

Here’s my exposing Ron Paul on his horrendous 2nd amendment vote(s) thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2831873/posts


32 posted on 01/13/2012 1:00:30 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: CMailBag
Ron Paul is this century’s Pat Paulsen

Harold Stassen. Stassen was big stuff in the late 30's and early and middle 40's. By 1960 he was still running, and a sad quadrennial joke. Even eminent men can be bitten so badly by the bug, that they lose their perspective and drag along a gradually diminishing band of supporters into .... folly, and then madcap.

Eugene McCarthy, by the way, the man who drove out Lyndon Johnson in 1968, fell into the same habit and was still campaigning in the 80's ..... Democrat-loving MSM types seldom mentioned his name while he was making an old fool of himself, but they'd talk about Stassen endlessly, because Stassen was a Republican.

Even then, in the 70's and 80's, the mediascum were foul, forsworn hypocrites. They just had a little more class than the Ezra Kleins and Dana Milbanks. (For the information of our younger FReepers.)

33 posted on 01/13/2012 1:03:34 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: grey_whiskers
Sarah bump.

God move that woman.

34 posted on 01/13/2012 1:05:57 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Lakeshark

“Ron Paul is not only a loon of the first degree, he and his diaper rash ilk are going after everyone but Romney.”

Why would Ron Paul pick mitt romney to target first? Part of Presidential politics is the winnowing out process. The Paul camp is targeting the weaker candidate both politically and strategically. Mitt romney can wait. The way that the primaries are arranged this time around actually favor a longer term strategy. There are two, possibly three candidates who can run that marathon. Rick Santorum isn’t one of them. He doesn’t have the resources to do so.

Rick Santorum also has an unfortunate history of growing government, which is antithetical to libertarian philosophy. I really have nothing against Rick Santorum and would prefer him over say Newt Gingrich and would definitely prefer him over mitt romney. He’s a nice guy, and a good social conservative. But he’s also a poor fiscal conservative, and everyone’s 4th choice of candidate. Rick Santorum wasn’t able to keep his own Senate seat a few years back.

Other than offending Rick Santorum’s relatively small number of hardcore supporters, Ron Paul risks little by targeting him.


35 posted on 01/13/2012 3:33:12 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (The gop is as much a plantation for conservatives as the 'rat party is for blacks.)
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To: Lakeshark
Ron Paul NEVER attacks Romney or Obama. He only attacks conservatives.

He is spending millions of dollars attacking Newt and Santorum. He is sending the Occupy thugs to disrupt their events. This will help Romney get the nomination.

Ron Paul is working to help Romney get the nomination and Obama get reelected.

36 posted on 01/13/2012 4:30:27 AM PST by detective
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To: Lakeshark
If you want to know who the Obama people fear running against most, the easiest way to find out is to see who the Paul people are attacking.

First it was Newt. Now it is Santorum.

Ron Paul spends millions of dollars attacking Newt and Santorum. He never attacks Obama or Romney.

37 posted on 01/13/2012 4:35:17 AM PST by detective
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To: detective
He is sending the Occupy thugs to disrupt their events.

Of course. The Occupy thugs are Paul's base.

38 posted on 01/13/2012 4:43:56 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

The Paul movement has totally eclipsed Perrry, Gingrich, and Santorum. All three are doomed before the next vote. And with Jebbie soon to come on board, it is truly over!


39 posted on 01/13/2012 7:46:51 AM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for the Right Rick --Santorum-- if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Theodore R.; Lakeshark; cripplecreek; ClearCase_guy; svcw; paul51; kaki; CMailBag; af_vet_rr; ...

THESE ARE THE STATES in the next 2 months where ronPaul will win or be the anti-Romney candidate, finishing 2nd.

FEB 4 NEVADA CAUCUS
FEB 4 MAINE CAUCUS BEGIN
MARCH 3 WASHINGTON STATE CAUCUS
MARCY 6 IDAHO CAUCUS
MARCH 6 ALASKA CAUCUS
MARCH 6 NORTH DAKOTA CAUCUS
MARCH 6 VERMONT OPEN PRIMARY
MARCH 6 WYOMING CAUCUS BEGINS
MARCH 10 KANSAS CAUCUS BEGINS

Small turnout. For example in Maine, only 6000 people participated in ‘08. If the Freeper world wants to compete with ronPaul, these are the places to do it!


40 posted on 01/13/2012 10:35:10 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (and I will go to southern Maine to campaign.)
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To: detective

Paul only attack conservatives. Why would he attack his pals on the left.


41 posted on 01/13/2012 10:53:14 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; campaignPete R-CT; BillyBoy; Impy; Dengar01; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; ...

I think the freeper world has about thrown in the towel and conceded that ronpaul groupies are the dedicated opposition in the primary season.

See #40. We may be within weeks of disappearing. ronpaul and mitt may be combining for over 90% of the vote in many states.


42 posted on 01/13/2012 12:20:57 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (and I will go to southern Maine to campaign.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

The fat lady ain’t sung yet, but she is warming up her pipes.


43 posted on 01/13/2012 12:55:24 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: fieldmarshaldj

i hope people here will be content with Rand Paul 2016. Marco Rubio or similar could never beat the Rinos in a 3-way with Rand. And the ronPaulistas would never support Rubio.


44 posted on 01/13/2012 1:03:23 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (and I will go to southern Maine to campaign.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Rick is going to be tough to pick off now that he has traded in his sweater vest for a blazer.


45 posted on 01/13/2012 1:15:38 PM PST by VicVega (GEAUX SAINTS-LSU bleaux it in the BCS Championship game.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

You’re right.


46 posted on 01/13/2012 1:52:15 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (And who doesn't have baggage?)
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Slap those Dems!




47 posted on 01/13/2012 3:14:37 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: detective

“He never attacks Obama or Romney.”

All things in their due time. The field is still being thinned out. Then come the fireworks.


48 posted on 01/13/2012 6:00:25 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The gop is as much a plantation for conservatives as the 'rat party is for blacks.)
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To: Theodore R.

“The Paul movement has totally eclipsed Perrry, Gingrich, and Santorum.”

Pretty much. This is a marathon and Perry, Gingrich and Santorum have split the traditional conservative vote and resources three ways meaning that none can really make it to the end.

“All three are doomed before the next vote.”

I’d agree that their campaigns are pretty much toast, but their egos won’t allow them to pull out just yet. They’ll need to get pounded in SC first. I think Rick Santorum and Rick Perry are the next two voted off the island; they’ll run out of resources first. Newt will continue on for awhile longer. The reality though is that this is pretty much a two horse race.

The odd part for me is that as a supporter of the Paul faction, I’ll actually have a dog in the fight. Been a long time since that happened.


49 posted on 01/13/2012 6:07:18 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The gop is as much a plantation for conservatives as the 'rat party is for blacks.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

You need to add Virginia to the list. In case you missed the story, the Federal courts tossed Rick Perry’s lawsuit out. While I’d argue that it’s a two horse race anyway, it’s confirmed as a 2 horse race in VA.


50 posted on 01/13/2012 6:09:38 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The gop is as much a plantation for conservatives as the 'rat party is for blacks.)
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