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Marines video: What’s your reaction?
Washington Post blog ^ | 1-12-12 | Haley Crum

Posted on 01/12/2012 7:01:06 PM PST by bigbob

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To: A_perfect_lady

What exactly do you think happens in war? Are you aware of the horrors the muslim jihadists inflict on others and themselves? And a soldier treating them as the crap they are is a problem for you?

A little perspective here: An enemy of America engaged in an attempt to kill American soldiers is instead killed by them, they gives them a liquid “FU” in the heat of battle... and this is somehow a war crime?

IMO this whole ‘civilized’ warfare crap is insane.
And yes, we have to descend to their level. They do not understand anything else. Let them understand that they won’t get the PC treatment that results in American soldiers in Leavenworth every time they complain. Let them understand they are animals to be treated as such until they choose to act like a civilized human being.

At that point, we can be civilized too. When the bodies stop hanging from bridges and girls get to keep their privates intact, we’ll do lunch.


101 posted on 01/12/2012 11:06:04 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Curse you, Norm Lenhart! Im slain, crumpled in a ditch by your obvious superiority - Humblegunner)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I didn’t say it was a war crime. I said I was disappointed in them. Can you read?


102 posted on 01/12/2012 11:09:30 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Anyone opposed to Newt should remember: we're not electing a messiah, we're electing a politician.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

And as for you, “Honey,” the fact that they are Marines doesn’t excuse every single thing they do in the heat of the battle. If you did similar things, you are also guilty of acting like a 12 year old, and I am disappointed in you too. Grow up.


103 posted on 01/12/2012 11:14:23 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Anyone opposed to Newt should remember: we're not electing a messiah, we're electing a politician.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Can you miss the point? Why be disappointed? Would you be disappointed if the soldier urinated on any other garbage? Achmed the dead terrorist is a pile of garbage. Everything he represents is evil. Everything he fights, oppresses and kills for is evil. You accept evil or deny it.

If a demon from the pit of hell rose up and was urinated on by a US Marine, I would fail to see the difference. Nor would I be disappointed.


104 posted on 01/12/2012 11:15:52 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Curse you, Norm Lenhart! Im slain, crumpled in a ditch by your obvious superiority - Humblegunner)
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To: bigbob

Well, the dead Taliban guys weren’t complaining, so what’s the big deal?


105 posted on 01/12/2012 11:22:48 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Why dont you stick to the things you know something about and leave the rest to us 12 year old boys.


106 posted on 01/12/2012 11:28:51 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

the fact that they are Marines doesn’t excuse every single thing they do in the heat of the battle.
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Yes. It does.


107 posted on 01/12/2012 11:34:13 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

If we actually had 12 YO boys from the WW2 era rather than the adult liberals, we’d have finished the problem about 9 years ago.

This thread reminds me of Monty Python’s “The meaning of Life” movie where the Brits in Africa are getting slaughtered by ZULUs/bodies everywhere and the ‘civilized’ commanders/civilians are casually drinking tea and tut-tut’ing the problems. Then one wakes up missing a leg to a tiger attack and sits reading the morning paper and drinking tea rather than addressing the actual problem.


108 posted on 01/12/2012 11:38:35 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (running this war)
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To: Norm Lenhart

EDIT

“If we actually had 12 YO boys from the WW2 era CALLING THE SHOTS rather than the adult liberals, we’d have finished the problem about 9 years ago.”


109 posted on 01/12/2012 11:40:08 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (running this war)
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To: bigbob

They need to replace the urine with pigs blood, which is what Blackjack Pershing did in the Philippines to the muslim terrorists.


110 posted on 01/12/2012 11:52:56 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: A_perfect_lady
In war this always occurs, it is telling the enemy that 'we own you'.

In war, men engage in psychological warfare, they try to intimate the other side.

These same Taliban are the ones cutting off women's noses and stoning them for BEING raped.

111 posted on 01/12/2012 11:57:12 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

As an Army infantry veteran, and a Christian, I disagree. Gee, I even talked to my Force Recon Marine with 18 years in the Corps brother, and he agrees with me! I guess he is a joke too?
What is utterly pathetic is all these ananamous posters talking crap, with no regard to decency. No better than the Muslim terrorists our troops are fighting.


112 posted on 01/13/2012 3:22:15 AM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“As to the psyops aspects, we are not fighting an ‘honorable’ foe. We are fighting human garbage that deserves every humiliation that we can pile upon them.”


That was the Japanese military’s attitude toward US and British troops in WWII.


113 posted on 01/13/2012 4:31:09 AM PST by chessplayer
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“When I was in the service they always reminded us when we were on foreign soil, that we were American ambassadors. What the people see in us when they come in contact, is how they will perceive Americans for the rest of their lives.”


Exactly. And most in here are absolutely proud of the image these marines just presented to the world. All they care about is that they peed on some muslims. They couldn’t care less how much it damages the Marines image.


114 posted on 01/13/2012 4:39:52 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: A_perfect_lady
Have it your way muzz.


Wow. She believes our troops should do there best to act honorably, so that makes her a muslim? Great connecting the dots, there.


115 posted on 01/13/2012 4:55:42 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: A_perfect_lady
I didn’t say it was a war crime. I said I was disappointed in them.

I saw this "controversial" video, and it didn't really bother me. I know when you have so many soldiers together, there will be some who behave like this in war. However, you are not wrong to be disappointed. I'm at least disappointed that they had to film it and create this hoopla.
116 posted on 01/13/2012 5:16:28 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“IMO this whole ‘civilized’ warfare crap is insane.
And yes, we have to descend to their level. They do not understand anything else.”


Do you even realize what you are saying? So you would have been fine with our troops descending to the level of the Nazis and descending to the level of Japanese troops in WWII? Good grief.


117 posted on 01/13/2012 5:31:19 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: A_perfect_lady

the fact that they are Marines doesn’t excuse every single thing they do in the heat of the battle.
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Yes. It does.


So the My Lai massacre during the Vietnam War is ok with you, also? After all, you say our troops are to be excused for EVERYTHING they do. So I guess that covers slaughtering unarmed women and children, too.


118 posted on 01/13/2012 5:40:20 AM PST by chessplayer
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WaPo didn’t get the results they wanted. The page has been moved and comments are hard to make there.

What is wrong in the ME theater is that we have not come down with such force that the enemy does not quake in their boots every time they hear us coming or see us. They learn war from birth and fight their whole lives, with a Total War approach to life. We treat war as a skilled profession, learned and practiced for a while as adults.

Panetta’s smooth hands and fingers, along with almost all of the DC crowd’s and their children’s, need to go fight themselves and get back to us before they need smelling salts to overcome the vapors from what our guys do or don’t do—let alone what the enemy and their toddlers do as a matter of course.

Case in point: many in the US, its pols and newsmen do not report and do cave to muslim demands because they are afraid of what muslims will do to them personally. That is what muslims have already done to us here.


119 posted on 01/13/2012 5:42:32 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE; Norm Lenhart
The original poster of this thread asked for our opinions, and I don't see as either of you have any authority to tell me I should not have answered honestly.

I'm perfectly fine with them killing or enemies. I don't expect them to be particularly respectful about it. As many have pointed out, the Taliban is the scum of the earth.

But the measure of a person's character is how they comport themselves, and this was childish and disappointing, as is your defense of such behavior.

120 posted on 01/13/2012 5:43:16 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Anyone opposed to Newt should remember: we're not electing a messiah, we're electing a politician.)
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