Skip to comments.The man who could stop Romney
Posted on 01/13/2012 6:32:21 AM PST by RoosterRedux
There are now just two people standing between Mitt Romney and the GOP presidential nomination -- Newt Gingrich and Sheldon Adelson, the billionaire financier of Newt's super PAC.
All the other Republican candidates have faded, like Jon Huntsman, or they're about to fade, like Rick Santorum whose hot Iowa hand didn't last, and Texas Gov. Rick Perry, whose decision to stay in the race is a South Carolina dream come true for Romney, and a real setback for southern politician Gingrich.
Gingrich, despite his many faults, is the only contender with enough stature to make this an ongoing race, especially with his friend's money keeping his hopes alive.
But for Newt to have any chance of stopping Romney, two things have to happen. First, everyone else needs to drop out (with the exception of Ron Paul, whose base is so independent that his appeal to voters in the remaining primaries, many of which have limited or no participation by independents, is diminishing before our eyes.) Second, Newt has to make the tough, personal decision that he's in it for the long haul.
Romney has run a strong race, but there remain many "not-Romney" voters in the GOP whose votes have been fruitlessly split among four or five other candidates. So long as Perry, Santorum and Gingrich are in the game, the game is over and Romney wins.
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I agree. Great post. Newt has to make it clear that he’s in this through March. It makes no sense to drop out if he loses Florida.
His message is spot on. Romney is looking more and more like the phony he is, and the vast majority of us said he was.
Thank Heaven that this is happening now.
Newt has his flaws, but he is the right man at the right time. How people like Ann Coulter, George Will and the rest see differently is beyond me.
WE ALL KNOW NOW THAT ROMNEY HAS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR THE ENDORSEMENTS FROM OTHER POLITICIANS LIKE NIKKI HALEY...THIS WILL COME OUT.
Agreed. Looks like Newt is the only one that can prevent the Romnification of America.
Agreed. Looks like Newt is the only one that can prevent the Romnification of America.
Perhaps I could get back on the Gingrich wave which I haven’t caught since 1998. But I just don’t think voters are going to get behind him unless he starts belting ball after ball out of the park and in so doing creates momentum that carries to election day.
Newt is inconsistent, too much so. But when he connects, he’s powerful.
Santorum is treated like a second class citizen all through this race and it is uncalled for. Santorum practically won Iowa and beat Newt in NH. He is the one that obviously voters want over Newt. Newt will gain supporters until his next off the wall comments and another need to apologize for saying it. I am so frustrated that people are not seeing Santorum as the best of the 3. He has never had any negative issues EVER. The guy is perfect and we need someone as a contrast to Obama. Can you imagine the Obama family portrait with a Newt portrait contrast on the media? It would be a disaster and if you don’t think that conservative values are going to be used this election than you are crazy. Newt’s marriage problems will be number one on Obama’s agenda. Bank on it. Do we REALLY want to risk that? If it is Santorum, it can’t happen and the Obama’s will be left with NOTHING to complain about the Santorum with. It will be virtually IMPOSSIBLE for Obama to find anything negative on Santorum and Santorum will win with at least 40 states because of his morals. Watch and see. Hopefully people will wake up and get behind this man for President. Oh that is right, they already are....just the media and some here are blinded by that fact. Go Santorum!!!!!
Of the current goup Santorum is my favorite but if he fades in S. Carolina he needs to get out of the race and take Perry with him.
I have a dream of both of those candidates along with the Palins and Herman Cain holding a press conference to announce their unified support for one Newt Gingrich.
In that presser they should let it be known that they know that Newt is NOT a consistent, trustworthy, always-got-your -back conservative but he’s close most of the time, he is with us a lot more than Romney is and Newt can beat Obama.
Sadly, this dream will not happen, Santorum and Perry will stay in the race until at least after Florida and basically gift-wrap the nomination for that sack of fetid manure, Mitt Romney. The only endorsements forthcoming will be after the nomination is all but sewn up and this will prove (yet again) that politicians are cowards.
If Perry and Santorum, neither of whom have a chance at victory, would pull out and throw their support to Gingrich, this race would be over.
Why would the guy with the most votes drop out and support the second worst vote getter in the race. Doesn’t make sense. Oh and Santorum has more delegates than the other two combined. You are making yourself look ridiculous. Santorum beat Newt and Perry TWICE!!!!!
Lest we forget 0bama for he has the greatest chance of keeping Romney oit as the better big government liberal.
I would ONLY want to see Newt debate O.
The prospect of debating Newt has O shaking in his shoes.
Mitt cannot and I think, will not SUCCESSFULLY debate O.
For the remaining Americans who are still undecided, the debate showdown is the ONLY thing that can save/ruin the O re election chances.
In his first Presidential campaign, O enjoyed a real advantage since he was the first minority candidate for that office he got a lot of leniency from voters and debate judges.
NOT so now!! Its a golden opportunity for our candidate to take O apart, in detail!!! (McCain couldnt or wouldnt, and thats history).
We need to have our best man in the Presidential debates this time! (It aint Mitt)
Oh noes...not again?
Santorum is a great guy, but he just doesn't generate the excitement needed to win (only a dull men wear a sweater vests...think about it).
Santorum is a great guy, but he just doesn’t generate the excitement needed to win
If that is the case why is he beating Newt and Perry in Iowa and NH. I think that if we went on results instead of emotion, you would see I am right.
I share your dream but it needs to happen before SC. The conservatives and freepers who keep saying “no one’s even voted yet” or “only 2 states have voted yet” “why should anyone get out of the race” “everyone should have a chance to vote for their preferred conservative” don’t have a clue how this process works. The time to choose a conservative alternative to Romney was in November, December at the latest. The fact that there are 5 candidates besides Romney still in the race almost guarantees that Romney will win with his 30% plurality - Stupid Party earns its name again.
If Newt, who has no chance at victory, would pull out...
I share your dream but it needs to happen before SC. The conservatives and freepers who keep saying no ones even voted yet or only 2 states have voted yet why should anyone get out of the race everyone should have a chance to vote for their preferred conservative dont have a clue how this process works. The time to choose a conservative alternative to Romney was in November, December at the latest. The fact that there are 5 candidates besides Romney still in the race almost guarantees that Romney will win with his 30% plurality - Stupid Party earns its name again.
You are of course, correct. What’s even more stupid? If Romney should beat Obama....as liberal as Romney is, no primary challenger will be allowed in 2016, guaranteed.
Citing his executive experience, successful economic record, thoroughly vetted background and solidly conservative credentials, Perry is the best man for the job. That so many voters can't see this is depressing. Perry remains the most conservative candidate in the race.
Sadly, I have to face the reality that 2012 will not be Perry's year. This, to me, says a lot more about my fellow "conservative" voters than it does about Rick Perry, a good man who deserved far more than his single digit polling has awarded him. Such as this is, Ari Fleischer is correct. Perry and Santorum need to drop out now before Romney runs away with the nomination.
Well, at this point, it seems Newt, warts and all, IS the only man trying to stop Romney, other than Perry, who sadly doesn’t have a chance.
All three basically have the same platform. However, Newt has the MOST commanding experience and a stalwart ability to articulate the positions. His private life is an OLD STORY. The only ones bringing it up are the social conservatives at this point!
However controversial, I like what Newt has done. He’s started the conversation about Romney — just like Cain did with taxes. It’s LEADERSHIP — and there’s no doubt Newt can lead. Not so sure about the other two, although they’re good guys.
And throw his support to whom?
to choose between Romney and Gingrich is to choose between my least two favorites.
Santorum is the one pulling the sufficient number of votes.
Perry to this point is not.
Unless or until he does, he is not the problem. What happened when Bachmann got out? Nothing of significance, that’s what.
This is between Gingrich and Santorum for the not Romney. That might change at some point but now is now.
As long as those two are splitting a large pile of votes, and Perry is barely registering, there’s no logic in calling for Perry to drop out. If he drops out, it should be because he could no longer maintain a campaign, or personal choice, whatever.
To lump him in with Santorum is silly...at this point.
I would make the point that candidates cannot make their supporters vote for anybody. When you say...throw your support to another...you can only do that if it’s at a convention and you control delegates. To think you can force voters to do something because you dropped out and said so, is a false assumption.
People are nervous about Newt. He is volatile. That’s a fact.
I don’t support him for several reasons, but if I were to cast every principled reason aside, I would still worry that you can’t know from one second to the next what he’ll say or do. Looking at him over many years, some of this somewhat evens out. But in the heat of a campaign?
Remember McCain saying he would stop campaigning and return to Washington bc of the financial crisis? He never recovered from that. It was all down hill.
Who knows what it would be with Newt?
That said, I don’t support him for reasons of principle.
Of course, Romney is worse. That doesn’t make the situation any less murky.
Perry is a favorite one to blame for everything and to order around. I don’t appreciate it. To put it nicely.
I wasn’t impressed with Santorum till I saw one of his town meetings in NH. He’s excellent at the retail level. He’s better there than in the debates. The herd will follow whoever gets the momentum. Newt’s in a balancing act. When he attacks Romney he drives up both Romney’s and his own negatives. I suspect Romney and Gingrich will drop lower in SC. Santorum could pick up there, but he doesn’t have much time to retail, and I notice Ron Paul is targeting him now. Paul will try to keep Santorum down, because Newt isn’t the breakout threat to Romney anymore. I also think Santorum polls well among women, and that could be important.
As far as I can tell, the only person Newt can defeat is himself.
America can kick herself squarely in the a$$ after this election should Newton not win. Never before has a clearer line, distinction been drawn.
We have the Left promoting the abortion of our Constitution, the Right offering the "GOP Standard Bearer", a loon, a few wanna be's and
a rational, seasoned, combative former Speaker of the House.
Damn the choice is just mind-boggling, isn't it?
Perhaps I need to run out and buy a television so I'll "really" know what the hell is going on around my pathetic uninitiated self?!?!
Oooooh, I LOVE “sweater vest men”! ;^) GO RICK, GO!
"This whole idea of personal autonomy, well I dont think most conservatives hold that point of view. Some do. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldnt get involved in the bedroom, we shouldnt get involved in cultural issues. You know, people should do whatever they want. Well, that is not how traditional conservatives view the world and I think most conservatives understand that individuals cant go it alone." [Source]
"What was my vision? I came to the uncomfortable realization that conservatives were not only reluctant to spend government dollars on the poor, they hadnt even thought much about what might work better. I often describe my conservative colleagues during this time as simply cheap liberals. My own economically modest personal background and my faith had taught me to care for those who are less fortunate, but I too had not yet given much thought to the proper role of government in this mission." Rick Santorum, p. IX It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good (2005)
"I suspect some will dismiss my ideas as just an extended version of compassionate conservatism. Some will reject what I have said as a kind of Big Government Conservatism. Some will say that what Ive tried to argue isnt conservatism at all. But I believe what Ive been presenting is the genuine conservatism our Founders envisioned. One that fosters the opportunity for all Americans to live as we are called to live, in selfless families that contribute to the general welfare, the common good." Rick Santorum, p. 421 It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good (2005)
Santorum seems to be the only one with a shot to top Romney and then Obama. It sure is a sad bunch we were saddled with again.
Newt beat Santorum in N.H.
Friends I live almost like a monk, my retirement income doesn't go far in this Obama economy, but I figure out ways to support candidates I like and support Free Republic.
We are facing Hell on Earth if we don't change the course!
Contributions don't need to be a lot, 10 bucks multiplied by hundreds adds up fast!
Newt may not ring your chimes with everything he says but he is smart enough to know who else is listening, and it isn't only you!
ping #26 :-)
In an honest debate that would be true, but the POTUS debates will be anything but honest. It doesn't matter who our candidate is, Obumbles and his media supporters will pick every topic and make all the rules.
Question for Obumbles: Why do you care so much about hungry children, widows, the middle class, and fuzzy puppies?
Question for Newt ( Mutt, Perry, Santorum) : You have always hated the poor, middle class, seniors, and favored rich wall street thugs, Why is that?
Which is exactly why Newt will be perfect for the job of debating Obama. He’s the only one that extracts the duplicitous premise of such questions, and turns it back around on the questioner. The rest of them just obliviously wander right into such traps and go full steam ahead with their talking points.
From the start, there were something about him that just didn’t sit well with me, but wow...
May God guide our course.
You are right-it will be exactly the way you say it will.
But I am pretty confident that Newt is smart, experienced and RUTHLESS enough to navigate a debate venue like what you describe. He certainly will acquit himself WAY better than Mitt would do or is capable of doing.
It’s time for Conservatives to field a candidate with CLAWS and TEETH. That is not Mitt.
Yes its either Newt or Willard. I keep praying Newt takes SC. If so the polls in FL should swing back his way and he will defintely take GA and a bunch of super Tues. states. Newt is strong enough to take Obama down.
Newt is better at debates, but Perry wins on the issues and his record. Either of the two can beat Obumbles, the others would lose.
Newt Gingrich, forget it!!! Three reasons to turn Gingrich into burnt toast immediately:
- Love affair with Democrat Nancy Pelosi
- Love affair with ultra liberal, Dede Scozzafava, NY23
- Love affair with Democrat James Clyburn
Gingrich will sell his soul!!! I, for one, do not want a traitor like Newt Gingrich to be my POTUS!!! NY23 should have been ours. Sitting with Nancy Pelosi is treason. Hobnobbing with the likes of James Clyburn is unforgivable!!!
Oh, please. Another Washington insider thinking the best candidate in the race should drop out so HIS candidate would have a better chance.
Washington insiders both in and out of congress are afraid of Rick Perry.
They’re afraid he really means it when he says he would make government less intrusive in our lives.
And he does!
Im absolutely convinced that Newt Gingrich is the junkyard dog we need to rip Obama a new one and send him running back to his Chicago slime pit with his tail between his legs. Newt has considerable DC experience as Speaker, executive ability from his many enterprises, and a silver tongue thats razor sharp! He’s fast on his feet, delivers his messages straight up, and is often witty. His work with American Solutions was very impressive in that he was able to enunciate core principles with which the vast majority of Americans agree. He also has plenty of practical ideas for making government work better for taxpayers. Is Newt pure as the driven snow? No - none of the presidential candidates are. Whatever Newts baggage, its miniscule compared to Obamas hidden closet skeletons and unlike Obama, Newt is 100% American. Newt is like Larry the Cable Guy: send him to DC and hell Git er done for all of us. Junkyard dogs are not show dogs, but theyll save your bacon! Go git im, Newt!
People are putting way too much emphasis on upcoming debates after the GOP nomination. I predict Obama will NOT agree to many “debates,” with whomever is nominated. He has way too much baggage to have it exposed by anyone, no matter how good a debater they are.
However, I don’t think that O can sidestep at least ONE debate. And that one debate will be “O’s” ruin. I am sure of it.
O is demonstrably incompetent and has tons of baggage...as you say, but that is just the reason a debate with Newt will PUBLICLY reduce O to a puddle on the ground pretty quick!!