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“Ron Paul Is My Homeboy” (Why the Candidate Appeals to Men Under 30)
Slate ^ | Friday, Jan. 13, 2012 | Libby Copland

Posted on 01/13/2012 12:56:47 PM PST by nickcarraway

Since Ron Paul swept the youth vote in Iowa and New Hampshire, it’s become popular for press accounts to contrast the age of his supporters with the wizened appearance of the 76-year-old country doctor. The stories go like this: a “great-grandfather” with a “crotchety streak” possesses a “youthful magic” that spellbinds a “surprisingly young support base,” and not just because he wants to “legalize drugs.” Often enough, the stories take Paul at face value, concluding that college students have been pining for a presidential candidate who talks about the Constitution, ending the Fed, and Ludwig von Mises.

But this doesn’t explain the passion Paul inspires, the T-shirts declaring him “my homeboy,” the hottie calendars dedicated to him, the enthusiasm that greets news that Paul has released a new cookbook, of all things. “Ron Paul has the answer,” is the phrase his supporters tend to use when posting blogs and comments about him, with or without the enhancement of all caps.

The youth have long had a thing for the good doctor. In 2008, Paul’s volunteers in Des Moines were almost exclusively scraggly out-of-town college types who slept at a YMCA camp and were given three rules, “No drugs, no booze, and no freedom babies." In the first two contests of 2012, the 12-term Texas congressman has dominated the field among those under 30, and drew far more lopsided support from men than any of the other candidates. As one fresh-faced supporter recently told MTV News, exhorting others to vote for Paul, “You have two choices: freedom and tyranny.”

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1 posted on 01/13/2012 12:56:54 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

..they haven’t paid enough taxes yet to understand.


2 posted on 01/13/2012 12:58:38 PM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: nickcarraway
The Slate article makes the point that because Ron Paul is an unconventional politician and to young people, seems to be smarter than the other candidates with relatively simplistic answers to large political questions as well as promising to make drugs legal, they flock to him. I agree.
3 posted on 01/13/2012 1:04:50 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: nickcarraway

...he’s a racist.


4 posted on 01/13/2012 1:05:33 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: nickcarraway
They like him for his hard lined socially liberal beliefs. I was in college some years back and I know what people think. Sure there are some who like his free market types, but there are TONS of politically shallow people who call themselves “libertarians” when they are libertine socialists. They want social approval and legalization for toking up and screwing whatever they want while wanting nanny government to take care of them.
5 posted on 01/13/2012 1:07:37 PM PST by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: nerdwithagun

Isn’t he pro-life?


6 posted on 01/13/2012 1:09:38 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Drango

If he is a racist, why does everyone who has known him for decades (even his enemies) scoff at that idea?

Did you know that he has a larger percentage of the black vote than any other candidate?


7 posted on 01/13/2012 1:12:25 PM PST by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: nickcarraway

Because they are either immature, or stupid, or both?


8 posted on 01/13/2012 1:14:57 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: nickcarraway

This is why.

9 posted on 01/13/2012 1:14:57 PM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: nickcarraway

The man appeals to recreational drug users and other incomplete people IMO.


10 posted on 01/13/2012 1:17:22 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: nerdwithagun

He doesn’t have “hard line social beliefs”. He just doesn’t think the federal government should be dictating morality to its citizens. It should be quite the other way around.


11 posted on 01/13/2012 1:18:47 PM PST by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: SoConPubbie

What better way to change peoples opinion than to ridicule eh?


12 posted on 01/13/2012 1:20:43 PM PST by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: SoConPubbie
Five European Nations to Be Downgraded by S&P:

JANUARY 11 Greece so poor families are abandoning their children
JANUARY 12 - Greece's unemployment rate jumped to 18.2%

here in the USA 15.227 trillion and counting

Just a little reminder debt(spending) kills nations

13 posted on 01/13/2012 1:22:03 PM PST by jpsb
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To: FreeInWV

Exactly, as if anything this man has said in any of his political campaigns point to him instituting racial discrimination in government. If there is so much wrong with his platform why do so many resort to this baseless accusation.


14 posted on 01/13/2012 1:23:19 PM PST by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: SpringtoLiberty
What better way to change peoples opinion than to ridicule eh?

I've never seen a supporter of Ron Paul change his/her opinion. Ever.


15 posted on 01/13/2012 1:30:59 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: jpsb

I am voting for Ron paul because newt, romney, perry, santorum are a freaking joke who will not fix the problem of overspending.


16 posted on 01/13/2012 1:32:14 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote
I am voting for Ron paul because newt, romney, perry, santorum are a freaking joke who will not fix the problem of overspending.

Newt was Speaker the last time America passed a balanced budget. What has Cut and Run EVER done to reduce spending. Acquiring more earmarks than anybody else running is not fixing the problem of overspending, and acquiring earmarks and blaming America for every problem in the world is ALL the surrender monkey has ever done in the over quarter century he has been in Washington.
17 posted on 01/13/2012 1:41:32 PM PST by John D
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To: Doogle
..they haven’t paid enough taxes yet to understand.

Ron Paul is the high-tax candidate?

18 posted on 01/13/2012 1:42:27 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
I have been a conservative all my adult life. I supported Goldwater, Reagan, Palin, etc. I have argued here against legalization of drugs. But I am fed up with being lied to by the Republican establishment. I finally came to realize that American military interventionism (except against the Communist empire) had not served our own national security interests. The Pubbie Party has pandered to us for years, then betrayed us with No Child Left Behind, Rx drug entitlements, military backing of "Islamic republics," and the like.

Enough is enough. I am not listening anymore to those who claim Ron Paul is anti-Semitic or anti-American.

19 posted on 01/13/2012 1:42:43 PM PST by hellbender
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To: nickcarraway
As one fresh-faced supporter recently told MTV News, exhorting others to vote for Paul, “You have two choices: freedom and tyranny.”

You voted for tyranny last time...make up your frickin' minds.

20 posted on 01/13/2012 1:43:52 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Has Willie Nelson endorsed him yet?


21 posted on 01/13/2012 1:45:59 PM PST by rightly_dividing (ICor. 15:1-4)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

never said that, but what has he said about taxes?


22 posted on 01/13/2012 1:46:26 PM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: GlockThe Vote

I definitely agree with you about Romney and Gingrich, and can see why you doubt Perry and Santorum. But what proof is their Paul is better? If you dig down in the record, he’s more Tip O’Neill than libertarian. He might grow the nanny state more than any of them. I’d like more proof then name calling.


23 posted on 01/13/2012 1:51:17 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
This article is part of a MSM campaign to help Ron Paul.

The story is basically nonsense.

Ron Paul's base of support is small. He got 26,000 votes in Iowa and 57,000 in New Hampshire.

According to exit polling, the typical Rom Paul supporter is least likely to have a high school or college degree, not be married and be in the lowest income level. He is likely registered Democrat or independent.

The typical Ron Paul supporter is not only in the lowest income level, he is most likely to see himself falling behind financially as opposed to remaining steady or moving ahead.

The Ron Paul supporter describes himself as liberal on BOTH fiscal and social issues. He has no religion.

The Ron Paul supporters are most likely to be satisfied with Obama.

In short, Ron Paul supporters are uneducated liberals. They are not successful and they are losing ground financially. They sound a lot like the Occupy types.

They are Obama supporters and they don't have any religion. It sounds like they do a lot of drugs too because the legalize drugs position seems popular.

They don't understand the implications of Ron Paul's positions or his record. They will probably vote for Obama in the fall.

24 posted on 01/13/2012 1:51:22 PM PST by detective
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To: hellbender

You can put your fingers in your ears and pretend he’s not, but that doesn’t change the fact that he is.

He’s also a nasty, crazy old man.


25 posted on 01/13/2012 1:52:00 PM PST by beandog (Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand)
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To: Doogle; JustSayNoToNannies
On November 20, 2008 Ron Paul said in a New York Times / Freakonomics interview:
“I want to abolish the income tax, but I don’t want to replace it with anything. About 45 percent of all federal revenue comes from the personal income tax. That means that about 55 percent — over half of all revenue — comes from other sources, like excise taxes, fees, and corporate taxes.

We could eliminate the income tax, replace it with nothing, and still fund the same level of big government we had in the late 1990s. We don’t need to “replace” the income tax at all. I see a consumption tax as being a little better than the personal income tax, and I would vote for the Fair-Tax if it came up in the House of Representatives, but it is not my goal. We can do better.”

26 posted on 01/13/2012 1:53:35 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

From a purely 2A perspective...... Paul is the only one of the GOP candidates who would disband/defund the ATF.

I would have loved to have seen that question asked during a debate.

A few of his quotes:
“The ATF has a long history of abusing our Second Amendment rights, so I was glad to see Congressman Issa demanding answers on the Project “Gunwalker”

“My hope is that the recent hearing will further expose the ATF’s and Attorney General Eric Holder’s assaults on law-abiding gun owners, and more people will start questioning the need for unconstitutional agencies like the ATF that exist solely to infringe on American citizens’ God-given right to keep and bear arms.”


27 posted on 01/13/2012 2:02:37 PM PST by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: GlockThe Vote
You know, I could almost support Ron Paul. If he would just keep his mouth shut about how it is America's fault that Moslems want to blow the shite out of us.
28 posted on 01/13/2012 2:16:39 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: beandog
He’s also a nasty, crazy old man.

Oh yeah? Then who are you backing? Santorum is another Huckabee. Romney is another Dole/McCain. Gingrich is another Bush.

The anti-Paul forces have no real arguments besides insults. They rant that "Israel is our ally," although Israel is nothing but a dependent. Israelis are not fighting alongside our men anywhere, as are the Brits, Aussies, and Poles. Israel is a wonderful nation, a millenium ahead of its neighbors. But let's quit pretending. Most American Jews do not care about Israel; they care about advancing Communism. It is impossible for any intelligent person to fail to notice that many (probably most) of those bashing Ron Paul in the U.S. are Jewish. Maybe non-Jewish conservatives should think about that, and prepare a reasoned response instead of slogans.

29 posted on 01/13/2012 2:19:46 PM PST by hellbender
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To: hellbender
Between the 2 extremes of the conservative movement I want to rip my hair out and find a bluff somewhere to scream my head off. The Romneys and the Bushs’ and all the TARP supporting RINOs of the world make me sick. But so do the anarchists who seem to live in some bubble and think radical Islam just came onto the scene the day the CIA installed the Shah in Iran.

Pat Buchanan I really do think is an agings Neo-nazi who has huge sympathy for Nazi Germany. Ron Paul on the other hand I think is really trying to drive a course through a very narrow ideology that tells him that America needs to retreat behinds its borders and that all the ills that befall it MUST be a result of not doing so. But by making such a conclusion without a larger perspective on what's going on in the rest of the world just makes his positions compeletly irrational.

I certainly would not fault anyone for voting for him. I just think his foreign policy position is nuts.

30 posted on 01/13/2012 2:22:38 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: hellbender
Israelis are not fighting alongside our men anywhere, as are the Brits, Aussies, and Poles.

C'mon, sending Israeli troops into Iraq or Afghanistan or Libya or Yemen would only make things worse. They do play a role in other ways. Doing things that we can't do ourselves. Watch the news this week. I'd like to tell you more, but I'd have to kill you first.

Most American Jews do not care about Israel; they care about advancing Communism. It is impossible for any intelligent person to fail to notice that many (probably most) of those bashing Ron Paul in the U.S. are Jewish.

Ron Paul has some Jewish supporters himself, but what do you think? You tell Jews they're Communists if they don't agree with you or Communists even if they agree with Ron Paul about Israel and you think that's going to make them vote your way?

31 posted on 01/13/2012 2:28:54 PM PST by x
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To: hellbender
I have really no way of verifying of what you say is true that most detractors of Ron Paul are Jewish. To be frank I don't know any Jews personally. What you describe though is called Reform Judaism, which really is just another form of socialism as religion. Indeed, I would bet most secular Jews oppose Zionism and have a soft spot for the Palestinians. They are of an entirely different character and caliber from Israeli Jews.

Let's also be honest. If we let the IDF fight with us in Afghanistan, the Saudis would go apeshit. Every even arguable moderate Arab ally we had would go absolutely ballistic.

One more thing. We sometimes forget the big picture of the Cold War. We brokered alliances and armed Islamic armies in Afghanistan and maybe that was a mistake in the 1980s. But back then we really believed that the USSR was going to crush us. I remember those days. I remember with alarm the stats that showed the Russians had 3 times our conventional armies and about double our nuclear capacity.

32 posted on 01/13/2012 2:30:23 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: detective
The typical Ron Paul supporter is not only in the lowest income level, he is most likely to see himself falling behind financially as opposed to remaining steady or moving ahead.

The Ron Paul supporter describes himself as liberal on BOTH fiscal and social issues. He has no religion.

The Ron Paul supporters are most likely to be satisfied with Obama.

In short, Ron Paul supporters are uneducated liberals. They are not successful and they are losing ground financially. They sound a lot like the Occupy types.

They are Obama supporters and they don't have any religion.

I'm curious as to how you could possibly know that. Do you have a link to anything supporting these suppositions?
33 posted on 01/13/2012 2:42:00 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: hellbender

It’s all America’s fault. And when all else fails, blame it on the Jews!! FURP!!!


34 posted on 01/13/2012 2:42:22 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Ron Paul is the high-tax candidate?

Well, he has never done anything to lower taxes. On the other hand, he has never done anything, but blame America for every problem in the world, and acquire more earmarks than anybody running.
35 posted on 01/13/2012 2:57:34 PM PST by John D
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To: rightly_dividing
Has Willie Nelson endorsed him yet?

Probably not, while Cut and Run wants to legalize all drugs and prostitution, the surrender monkey is too, liberal for even Willie.
36 posted on 01/13/2012 3:02:02 PM PST by John D
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To: hellbender
Maybe non-Jewish conservatives should think about that, and prepare a reasoned response instead of slogans.

Is "zot" a slogan?

37 posted on 01/13/2012 3:04:32 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The Republican Party is dead. The Republic is not. At least not yet.)
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Slap those Dems!




38 posted on 01/13/2012 3:11:48 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: hellbender
The anti-Paul forces have no real arguments besides insults

I would prove you wrong, which is really a low hanging fruit kind of thing, but you're gone now.

Oh well..

Light one up, take a toke and have some nachos...

39 posted on 01/13/2012 3:20:06 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: SoConPubbie
You have to sober up to even start the process.

That pot induced haze is a challenge...

40 posted on 01/13/2012 3:22:47 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: SpringtoLiberty; FreeInWV
That explains his strong refusal to accept support from racist organizations...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/us/politics/ron-paul-disowns-extremists-views-but-doesnt-disavow-the-support.html?_r=3&pagewanted=3&hp

Oh, wait...

41 posted on 01/13/2012 3:27:55 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: SpringtoLiberty; FreeInWV
That explains his strong refusal to accept support from racist organizations...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/us/politics/ron-paul-disowns-extremists-views-but-doesnt-disavow-the-support.html?_r=3&pagewanted=3&hp

Oh, wait...

42 posted on 01/13/2012 3:28:09 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
I would prove you wrong, which is really a low hanging fruit kind of thing, but you're gone now.

Another One Bites the Dust.
43 posted on 01/13/2012 3:31:21 PM PST by John D
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To: John D
One more down too many left(ist) to go...
44 posted on 01/13/2012 3:34:22 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Jim Robinson; hellbender
It’s all America’s fault. And when all else fails, blame it on the Jews!! FURP!!!

What, No snappy reply hellbender?
45 posted on 01/13/2012 3:46:22 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
What, No snappy reply hellbender?

I think that is out of the question.
46 posted on 01/13/2012 3:54:55 PM PST by John D
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To: Jim Scott

It is first and last the drug thing. They think he’ll legalize drugs and they don’t care about Iran, Israel or America. That’s why the occupiers support him. Legalize drugs and the idiot youth of America will sell her down the river in 30 seconds.


47 posted on 01/13/2012 4:00:00 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: hellbender; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ...
Another Paulbot, hellbender, gets the ZOT.

To be added or removed from the Viking Kitty/ZOT Ping List, FReepmail Darkwing104 or 50mm.

48 posted on 01/13/2012 4:08:05 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: hellbender; 230FMJ; 50mm; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; AliVeritas; Allegra; ...
The anti-Paul forces have no real arguments besides insults.

Isolationism is not a good foreign policy and antisemitism is not a good character trait. Trolls, on the other hand, make good lighting rods...

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . . don't be shy.

49 posted on 01/13/2012 4:19:07 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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