Skip to comments.Welfare recipients outnumber taxpayers
Posted on 01/13/2012 3:33:51 PM PST by Baynative
Paul LePage, the Republican governor of Maine, mentioned an uncomfortable truth in a radio address this month: Maine has more welfare recipients than income tax payers.
Democrats challenged the accuracy of this assertion.
The Bangor Daily News fact-checked LePage and discovered that 445,074 Mainers paid state income tax, while 453,194 received some sort of state aid.
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While just about every worker has taxes withheld, many people have the entire amount refunded at tax time. With child tax credits and earned income tax credits, some people get more money from filing a return than they paid in.
Not good. Let’s not forget the “underground economy” who use cash and don’t pay taxes, but collect benefits on top of income illegally earned.
Welcome to the welfare state...
Is there any wonder why voters vote the way they do? Most get a government handout at someone else’s expense and they want more... And the minority that actually pay all the bills “aren’t doing their fair share” and are demanded to carry even more of the load...
This is how civilizations end from within.
Are you implying that there is something bad about this?
It’s not fair that rich people have the money!
All I know is I’m somewhere on the borderline. My kids are grown. No credits. I’m middle aged white. No credits. All my investments but one small, and I mean small investment, are gone.
I pay my taxes. I pay my bills. And I’m failing. I live in a trailer house. And then a coworker tells me a couple of days ago about some “friends” of his MIL. Full on illegal Mexicans. Paid off their HOUSE. Kids just got orthodontics. Get food stamps. Energy assistance. YADA YADA YADA.
He has SIX uncashed paychecks in his wallet.
My weekly only covers the bills. And we actually get to eat human type food every third day.
And they brag. And they brag.
The word, “tax credit,” is just another way to say “welfare”, “subsidy”, “assistance”, “support”, “stipend” or “aid” among many others. This applies to individuals as well as corporations making America the welfare kings and queens of the world.
Maine has hit the golden ratio. Bye-bye Mr. LePage and Maine Republicans!
Let`s see, work my fingers to the bone or stay home and get paid to do nothing ?
No brainer. Some people are just lazy and others will weigh the balance between hard work and doing with less in exchange for free money.
More welfare = super majorities for the socialist statist party aka democrat party
Finally, I see why their two RINO Senators always come down on the side of handouts and bigger government whenever it comes up.
Then add in all state workers.
I see plenty getting goodies, handouts, breaks and I am apparently a fool to keep trying to move from contract gig to contract gig.
Throw in white, male, 40ish which appears to be three automatic strikes.
The Sad Sack Nation pulling the rest of down with them.
Their is a rental house down the street with 2 or 3 families of Mexicans living in it. I saw a Health Dept. car there and was wondering if they were looking into the over crowding (living in the garage, etc.).
The next-door neighbor said “No - they just are there to see how things are going as they are on state assistance.”
I replied “Does state assistance cover the four nice SUV’s parked on the drive and lawn?” (1 is a Lexus, the other an Escalade, and the other two are newer Chevy’s I think).
Gonna be hell to pay when the checks stop coming...
I would bet this could be true in other states. This needs to go viral.
>>445,074 Mainers paid state income tax, while 453,194 received some sort of state aid.
But that is not to say that some people that pay income tax also receive some sort of subsidy - the two are not necessarily mutually-exclusive - none-the-less, it’s is a pretty scary statistic.
In SC, four nice sport-utilities might in some parts of the state. Probably a big plus in NC.
democracy is finished once people understand that they can vote themselves in more benefits....somebody said...
Socialism is a system where the lazy ultimately strangle the productive out of existence.
Thank you for the referral.
My people came here in 1729.
For all of that I was raised to what I believe to be a higher standard. And I won’t hijack this thread other than to say my heart and soul, and EVERYTHING I do is by the Grace Of God.
I’m tired of it Mamelukesabre.
I’m not meek. I’m not stupid. I’m not lazy.
I was given a full ride academic scholarship in 1979. I turned it down. I told the woman in that office that day to give it to someone who deserved to go to school but didn’t have the money. I had the money to go to school because I worked for it. I didn’t need the extra.
She got tears in hers eyes and told me no one had ever done anything like that before. She said they just take the money and run.
And I did the first 2 years of engineering skool.
I am a professional cabinetmaker.
Ya need any cabinets?
I’ll do them for free if I thought it would feed me.
The people I work for now are the same as so many people who say “it’s my money”. Vultures. And claim they are Christian.
consequently, I won't donate to the food bank anymore....probably a bunch of them live high on the hog with others peoples donations...
I'm sorry about your predicament...its true....white Americans especially those in the middle class or working class category, are getting screwed all ways...increasing taxes plus obeying all the rules like carrying car insurance and health insurance....
if you can, get a job with companies that get contract work in Alaska...one guy I know gets $79/hr for most of the day....
The entire nation is that way. If we count all the people that receive checks totalling more than they pay in taxes it is at least 51% on welfare.
Any of them computer hardware or broadcast television/video related?
Please do not feel sorry for my predicament. I made a choice. I drew a line in the sand. And I WILL stand. The government screwed me over in 1997. They had no case. What won their day was the jury who decided THAT day, a day like ALL the rest, was that their FEAR of the government was more important than anything else.
As Maine goes, so goes the Nation... down the toilet.
Le Page is awesome - he needs to throw his hat in a bigger ring.
I do not donate to food banks either, nor do I give the streetcorner bums anything. One of the ‘unintended consequences’ of socialism I guess.
I knew a guy that was employed by the city, inspecting the section 8 housing.
He said that after T-giving and other holidays, he’d find the trashcans FILLED with donated food.
“Why?” I asked.
He said because it wasn’t cooked for them.
If you really want to know how these grifters game the system...
STEAL from hard-working ppl like you n me...
go hang out at a WIC office. Count the smartphones, $neakers, Escalades, jewelry.
I’m DONE with it.
And we may also come to provide for our own defense - individuals, families, neighbors, and communities - because our elected officials no longer obey or represent us, but have chosen instead to become accessories to plunder. The only alternative is a return to constitutional representative government - which both major parties currently appear to shun.
Liberty is rare in human history because it requires both continuous effort and vigilance. Dependency is so much easier - until one runs out of providers.
It is 3 down.
I just hit 50.
“gig to gig”
Too many people in this field working out of their garages trying to do what I can do better, and this must be true, cause they are coming to the people I work for, who employ only ONE professional cabinetmaker.
My major fail is I don’t have a garage...
But I do have a friend who told me to quit acting the man (he is 82) and work out of HIS shop. He told me just to bring my tools... (Inside joke. His garage.)
Hanging out at DSS offices like I did for several months around the state swapping equipment out, there was no shortage of bling, phones, and other luxuries.
Nationally, only 53 percent of the nation lives in a household that pays federal income tax.
When nationally, only 49 percent of the nation lives in a household that pays federal income tax, then we have reached the tipping point. And my FRiends, the situation will get really ugly.
As I recall he was elected with a plurality of the vote, not a majority. It would be interesting to look at a map of where the parasite class is concentrated in Maine, if anywhere. Also, keep in mind, many of them don’t vote at all. Aroostook County is largely very poor but also votes GOP.
Cant help but wonder how many of those Samalians Maine took are paying taxes.
We are similar.
I went to college for engineering. Paid my own way. Went part time and worked part time. Sometimes I ran low on money and took a semester off school to work a full time job on top of my part time job. It took me 10 years to finish with no debt. Then went to grad school. Then got a job as an engineer and got laid off after one year of work.
I was out of work for one year and never filed for unemployment. When my savings dried up, I started using credit cards and survived by transferring credit card balances from one card to the next. I literally lived on beans, ramen noodles, and wonder bread. Eventually I gave up looking for engineer work and took up a trade. It took me over 2 years to get debt free and a comfortable savings once I started working again.
Eventually I became my own boss. And now the economy sucks, I’m going broke(fast), and the government is pulling “eminent domain” on me and is playing hardball. They are doing eminent domain via back door method...threatening to condemn the property and bulldoze it, then pay me what the land is worth.
I thank you for your honesty.
I’m fairly confident there are people on this forum who scream to the mods, scream to JimRob that I’m a pest. That I’m a troll.
And yeah, maybe I live in a world that gives entire respect for ALL that the people who gave up their love, blood, and treasure to promote a dream. And some of my posts don’t reflect the current political climate. But I make no apology. And I won’t back down.
guess we passed the tipping point a few miles ago.
Instead of going Galt, we should all go Octomom and bring the needed crash about much faster.
This must STOP!!
You have lots of idiot Somalis there sucking down tax $$$. But Maine is 95% white I would think. So this welfare and poverty is a white phenomena. Maine has always been kind of poor, especially interior Maine
yeah....go Octomom! Can a guy do that?
“Lets not forget the underground economy who use cash and dont pay taxes, but collect benefits on top of income illegally earned.”
You can do pretty well when your health insurance, food, dental, utilities, rent are all paid/supplemented by state/federal gov’t, AND if you work under-the-table for cash.
I've been behind some30ish looking able bodied EBT card user on a number of occasions, seen them buy food I can't afford, then get into some late modeled car and drive off.
I'm working 60 hour weeks with a gimpy back and driving a 15 year old car with 200,000 miles on it and still paying taxes to subsidize these freeloaders.
There were some articles ago about an area of Maine (maybe Portland) being burdened by a rapidly growing population of Muslims who were not only overloading the welfare system, but working hard at political control and Sharia. Could this be the Somali influence you refer to?
Somalis are growing and overburdening the Maine welfare system. They flocked to a city or two there. Not exerting any Sharia as far as I know................
Posted by acorcoran on November 22, 2009
Yesterday I brought to readers attention that now that the Somali population in Lewiston, ME is large and well-established, the demands for accomodation of Muslim religious practices has begun, see CAIR threatens, here. Among those who study Islamic supremacism around the world, this is known as the Stealth Jihad (see our entire category here)changing a country from within to bring about Islamic dominance.
In my post I attributed a role to Catholic Charities in bringing the first Somalis to Maine, and after a little research I found that assertion was accurate. However, the majority of the thousands of Somalis now continuing to upset Lewiston are secondary migrants resettled by Catholic Charities and other federally contracted agencies in Georgia. Here is the best summary Ive found so far about how Lewiston got to the point its at now with CAIR breathing down the necks of school adminstrators. Ive only taken a bit of this very long and thorough 2002 article, so please read the whole thing.
LEWISTON Every week, another four or five Somali families arrive in this workaday city on the Androscoggin River.
They are refugees from the clan-wracked ruins of their homeland on the Horn of Africa, from years of waiting in camps in Kenya. And they are migrants from their place of first resettlement in America, more often than not trekking 1,000 miles from the heat and multihued humanity of metropolitan Atlanta to this sparse, wintry, whitest of all states.
They are nomads, their ancient instincts honed to a 21st century edge. Pioneers in a new world, they discovered Lewiston and claimed a bit of it for themselves.
Its like finding a small island in the middle of the Pacific, says Mohammed Abdi, who last year moved here from Decatur, Ga., and was quickly hired as the liaison between the citys schools and the burgeoning Somali community. We put it on the map.
They were originally resettled with American blacks and that wasnt going so well, an issue we have discussed at RRW on previous occasions.
In their exodus, they say they are looking for peace and quiet, cheaper housing, a more benevolent welfare system, better schools and a place to raise their children families of seven or more are common with fewer perils and temptations. That they are leaving a metro area renowned as an African-American mecca to resettle in Maine, home to fewer than 7,000 blacks in 2000, is less a matter of irony than intent, given the prickly state of their relations with African-Americans and a desire to protect their children from assimilating too quickly.
Scouts sent out! But, I will bet you anything they had some hints from their friends at Catholic Charities which was already resettling Somalis in Portland, ME.
Fed up with life in Atlanta he was robbed twice Abdiaziz Ali said members of the Somali community there researched other places on the Internet, comparing crime rates, the cost of housing, test scores. Then they sent scouts to a handful of cities Kansas City, Mo., Nashville, Tenn., San Diego, Houston and El Paso in Texas, and Portland and Lewiston in Maine.
Maine was preferred, and Portland was full.
It is cold but the welfare is oh so good! Note when you read the article that some of the men stayed back in Georgia to continue to work while the wives and kids went to Maine for the welfare.
Indeed, in moving from Georgia to Maine, Somalis are trading one of the nations least generous welfare systems for one of its most generous.
Lewiston provides general assistance to anyone in need, splitting the cost with the state. Such relief was unavailable in Clarkston. In Georgia, there is a four-year time limit for receiving Temporary Assistance to Needy Families. In Maine its five, but even that can be extended. About a quarter of Lewistons Somali families receive that form of welfare, according to the state. And in Maine, a state-funded program assists single parents while they attend college.
There is a waiting list for public housing in Lewiston, but not nearly as long as back in Georgia. About a third of the more than 90 apartments at Hillview, Lewistons largest public housing project, have Somali tenants, and about 35 more Somali families have received Section 8 vouchers, which subsidize the rent on private apartments.
Fulfilling that expectation [that people work] is complicated because so many of the Somali families are single mothers and children, the fathers dead, missing, still in Africa or still in Atlanta.
The men dont like it here its too cold or too quiet or too behind, says Fatuma Hussein, whose own husband still drives a taxi in Atlanta, making frequent visits to her and their three young children.
The role of Catholic Charities
There were no Somalis in Lewiston prior to the colonization that began after 9/11. Note in the article that Somalis are quoted as saying Portland was full. That would be full of primarily Somalis and Sudanese resettled in Maine by Catholic Charities, the only refugee resettlement contractor in the state for 30 years. That makes it easy for us to check the numbers Catholic Charities brought. Not nearly the tens of thousands resettled in other states, but from 1983-2005, Catholic Charities resettled 498 Somalis and 607 Sudanese (I mention the Sudanese because we have heard lots about problems with the Sudanese community of Portland recently). You will see later that the number 498 is inaccurate because in just 3 individual years during that time period, reported in annual reports to Congress, below, the number exceeds 498.
To this day, Catholic Charities is resettling new Somalis in Maine. The stats arent out for 2009 but in 2007 the number of Somalis resettled was 118 and in 2008 it was 60 (that drop may be because of the discovery by the State Department of the fraud in the family reunification program).
I dont believe the Somali scouts found Lewiston all on their own-I think there is a really good chance that earlier resettled Maine Somalis and Catholic Charities (CC) in Atlanta tipped-off the scouts to the lucrative welfare in Lewiston. So, I checked the Office of Refugee Resettlement annual reports to Congress for the years 1997, 1998, and 1999 to see how many Somalis CC had brought to Maine in the years preceding the migration. Sure enough, in 1997, CC resettled 228 Somalis to Maine, in 1998 the number was 168 and in 1999, 277. What are the chances that a few of those Somalis were related to Atlanta Somalis and told them to come on up, the public assistance is great!
Piven must be so proud!
Note to readers in Maine: I have many more discoveries I want to share with you in another post, things that need further research, but this is getting too long!
To all readers: If you want to learn more about the Lewiston multicultural experiment, search RRW for Lewiston, we have written a lot on the topic.
For new readers:
The US State Department has admitted over 80,000 Somali refugees to the US in the last 25 years and then last year had to suspend family reunification because widespread immigration fraud was revealed through DNA testing. That specific program has not yet been reopened, but will be soon. Nevertheless, thousands of Somalis continue to be resettled as I write this.
With the damage Catholic Charities is doing with aiding these Muslims in Maine...perhaps I’m not going to feel so bad about them having their tax funding pulled regarding their adoptive services and their so called stances against gay adoptions. Its a curious double game they are playing, aiding Muslims to undermine our country while pretending to be “profamily”.