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Official: Marines in Afghanistan video identified, expected to face charges
FoxNews.com ^ | /13/12 | Fox,Justin Fishel and AP

Posted on 01/13/2012 4:11:49 PM PST by ColdOne

Meanwhile, the Marine Corps has appointed a three-star general to decide what disciplinary action to take against the four Marine snipers.

Lt. Gen. Thomas Waldhauser will name another officer to lead an internal Marine Corps investigation. That investigation will be in addition to a criminal probe already under way by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. Waldhauser, who is commander of Marine Corps Forces Central Command, will determine how to proceed once both investigations are completed.

NCIS Communications Director Maryann Cummings also said her department's probe is still "in its very early stages."

"At this point, NCIS has identified and talked to the four Marines in the video. All four are currently in the U.S.. NCIS investigators are still tracking down information on the individual(s) who created and posted the video as well as initiating computer forensic techniques on the video itself," Cummings said. "NCIS conducts a wide range of law enforcement missions for the Department of the Navy. As always, the goal is to gather every possible fact, put the facts into context, and present the results of the investigation to a convening authority to take the appropriate action. NCIS is committed to conducting a comprehensive and thorough investigation."

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and military leaders have promised an exhaustive investigation and sought to contain the damage at home and abroad.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: computerforensics; marines; marinespissed; photoshop
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1 posted on 01/13/2012 4:11:52 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

One minute those guys are trying to kill you and the next moment you’re not supposed to want to piss on them...ain’t PC great?


2 posted on 01/13/2012 4:14:56 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: ColdOne

In the meantime the traitor in chief commits treason and no one blinks an eye!


3 posted on 01/13/2012 4:15:01 PM PST by notaliberal
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To: ColdOne

If my late father had done this to some Japanese, Chinese or North Koreans, he’d probably have been promoted, or at worst, scolded.


4 posted on 01/13/2012 4:15:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: gorush

I would like to know if whatever conduct rules they broke are even applicable to nonuniformed combatants.


5 posted on 01/13/2012 4:17:43 PM PST by omega4179 (Internet ID:FU░&#BO)
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To: ColdOne

The crime is the stupidity of letting the video get out.


6 posted on 01/13/2012 4:20:02 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: ColdOne

This is disgusting. THEY mutilate, defile, burn, plunge their hands in the still warm blood of Americans, steal body parts, and they dare, THEY DARE put our Marines on trial for peeing on murderers who were just trying to KILL them??? Have we gone insane???


7 posted on 01/13/2012 4:20:31 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: ColdOne
When you break the law you break the law, now they need to stomp the piss out of the person with the camera that was ignorant enough to post such trash. The poster was, and is, an ignorant ass fool that no longer deserves to wear the uniform.
8 posted on 01/13/2012 4:20:55 PM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newt's, Perry's and Willard's positions on Amnesty.)
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To: jiggyboy

Yes, this generation is too anxious to put everything on tape.


9 posted on 01/13/2012 4:21:18 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: ColdOne

What BULLSHIT!


10 posted on 01/13/2012 4:21:33 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: MestaMachine

I think we have.


11 posted on 01/13/2012 4:22:21 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: jiggyboy

The crime of stupidity is letting the video get made.


12 posted on 01/13/2012 4:22:31 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: ColdOne

I will wait for the NCIS report.


13 posted on 01/13/2012 4:23:35 PM PST by La Enchiladita (If you believe John Edwards has a heart condition then I feel sorry for you...)
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To: ColdOne

in VN there were strings of ears, Blackhorse patches
nailed to skulls, faked executions of already dead
VC to induce live ones to talk...

peeing on the dead seems an order of magnitude less of a crime...


14 posted on 01/13/2012 4:24:07 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: ColdOne

So they can kill ‘em but they can’t pee on ‘em.

I guess this kind of silliness is part of what you have to put up with when you’re the world’s hyperpower.


15 posted on 01/13/2012 4:25:26 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: ColdOne

Oh here we go again. These poor guys are going to get the death penalty or something for a verbal reprimand type activity. Unbelievable!!!


16 posted on 01/13/2012 4:25:25 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ColdOne

All of the military should piss on ‘em. Let’s see them charge them all.


17 posted on 01/13/2012 4:25:44 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: ColdOne

I’m sorry to see these Marines get sacked for PR purposes, but they shouldn’t have done it.


18 posted on 01/13/2012 4:26:00 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: jiggyboy

Correct, should be a standing order, you get caught with a camera and/or a phone in a combat zone, you have 2 minutes to strip and hide the camera. Going to be rough sitting for a few days.


19 posted on 01/13/2012 4:26:23 PM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newt's, Perry's and Willard's positions on Amnesty.)
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To: ColdOne

Clearly small revenge is best left undocumented, and damn well left off the web!

Should have removed a few small body parts too, ears or fingers, to deny the vermin their virgins since they have to “Whole” to enter “Paradise”.

Guys I know laugh about that, the vermin blow themselves up, which should doom them to Islamic Hell according to their own book, but somehow claim an exemption for terrorism.

Next time treat them to the same insult meted out to our Marines at Tripoli , feed them to dogs!


20 posted on 01/13/2012 4:29:26 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: gorush

I think the book “Unbroken” by Laura Hillenbrand needs to be read by every high school student and government employee and then maybe we can rationally discuss this incident. Really the hysterics are over the top.


21 posted on 01/13/2012 4:30:16 PM PST by happyhomemaker (That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children)
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To: ColdOne

OH pahleeeeze. The dummies need to GET OVER IT.

I bet all the people that have suffered at the hand of the Islamofascist wish all they had to endure was some guy peeing on them.


22 posted on 01/13/2012 4:31:03 PM PST by marty60
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To: gorush
and I thought they did it with great style....No anger...business like...I'm getting old...I used to get angry!

Maybe we should go back to the old ways...Where anger was a normal emotion.....

23 posted on 01/13/2012 4:31:58 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: ColdOne

In WW2 Life Magazine ran a picture of a Japanese soldier’s head mounted on the headlight of one of our tanks. Disturbing, but consider the sneak attack on PH and the Bataan death march and perhaps understandable. War IS hell. Someone should kick the ass of the photographer.


24 posted on 01/13/2012 4:34:10 PM PST by Doug in CA
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To: jiggyboy

I have not heard where this video came from. Does anyone know?


25 posted on 01/13/2012 4:35:39 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Rights begin where power ends!)
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To: happyhomemaker

I agree, but of course, it won’t...especially not in public schools.


26 posted on 01/13/2012 4:35:43 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: ColdOne

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/americans-cheered-gen-patton-when-he-urinated-on-the-enemy/


27 posted on 01/13/2012 4:37:42 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: notaliberal
Official: Marines in Afghanistan video identified, expected to face charges

In the meantime the traitor in chief commits treason and no one blinks an eye!

They should all have worn Obama masks.
28 posted on 01/13/2012 4:38:05 PM PST by aruanan
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To: ColdOne

with what crimes can they be charged?

the Marines may be Marines but they are still kids and kids do stuff like this. Remember??


29 posted on 01/13/2012 4:43:27 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: ColdOne

Asked my dad (former major Marine Pilot) about this and as far as he knows there is nothing in the UCMJ about urinating on dead people. Now conduct unbecoming (but that applies to officers) maybe but that’s so general. Now if they were ordered not to urinate and they did, well defying orders ..... but these guys will be tried and convicted in the media and the state department. I guess it’s okay to have sex in the Oval Office by a president but G-d forbid you pee on a dead enemy combatant.


30 posted on 01/13/2012 4:44:07 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: gorush

Some people just are not aware of the old, often used phrase, especially after just getting rid of someone who only moments ago was intent on seeing that you could/would never relieve yourself again.


31 posted on 01/13/2012 4:45:08 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: jiggyboy

Exactly, a lot of stuff went on when I as in the Military, but if a camera showed up somebody got their ass kicked.


32 posted on 01/13/2012 4:45:16 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: RaceBannon

thank you for that link....


33 posted on 01/13/2012 4:46:59 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ColdOne
officially, I don't care what they did....I assume most guys in wartime with their lives on the line will do some pretty silly stuff...

lets form a new group....."MOVE ON TO FAST AND FURIOUS"....

34 posted on 01/13/2012 4:47:17 PM PST by cherry
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To: org.whodat
Prolly the camera man wasnt in on the kill...he thought it was cool.....Filming Marines relieving their grief as best they could...
Would we rather see them weeping over their ordered deeds and swear they'll never do it again?....We'll need to bring back the draft big time!!!!!!!...Everyone gets to have a “feelings check”........Grrrrrrrr
35 posted on 01/13/2012 4:47:23 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Loyal Sedition
OMG! Another Haditha massacre. Another Mai Lai massacre.

When will we ever stop these evil marines from killing innocent people.

Will anyone ever ask the marines what had they just been through or what had just happened to their brothers-in-arms? Or did we just jump to our pansy-assed conclusion that American soldiers are evil?

Grow a frickin' pair America or die a cowards' death!

Again, I apologize for my exuberance but this second guessing of our young men really pi$$es me off (my late brother was a marine - I lack perspective).

36 posted on 01/13/2012 4:51:48 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Rights begin where power ends!)
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To: M-cubed
They need to loose a pay grade for letting someone take a picture of them, the boot commander needs to loose a pay grade for failure to teach that dumb-ass with the camera a damn thing. And after they beat the hell out of him they need to kick his ass out, how in the hell can someone not know taking that picture was plumb ignorance. So you active duty men, take you friends camera and make him eat the storage chip.
37 posted on 01/13/2012 4:54:34 PM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newt's, Perry's and Willard's positions on Amnesty.)
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To: ColdOne

My question is, who released this/these photos to the press?

Imho, that is the real traitor. I can understand the behavior, not condone it, but certainly understand it given what these soldiers and their families have gone through. Would I do it even in their circumstances? I hope not, but seriously, who knows what any one of us would do if we were their age, etc., and given the overwhelming circumstances and immense pressure.


38 posted on 01/13/2012 4:54:55 PM PST by khnyny (Our government has become Hal in "2001 A Space Odyssey")
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To: ColdOne

Make them each drink three pitchers of beer, then stand at parade rest while listening to one of Obama’s long winded speeches. That’s about right.


39 posted on 01/13/2012 4:55:03 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: ColdOne
Suggested motto for our troops:


40 posted on 01/13/2012 5:00:31 PM PST by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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To: ColdOne

Okay, here is a cynical thought....Obama wants to eliminate 1/2 billion US troops...let’s paint US troops as neanderthals, murderers, scum...

Let’s use the media to leak stories to sway public opinion - “oh yes, the military is bad, let’s cut 500,000 soldiers - oh joy Obama is cutting that dreaded pissing on dead bodies military!”


41 posted on 01/13/2012 5:01:45 PM PST by khnyny (Our government has become Hal in "2001 A Space Odyssey")
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Umm, is your reply really directed at me?

If so, read my post again, more slowly.

I never stated that the Muslim terrorist were innocent.

I did suggest that small acts of vengeance not be posted to the web.

I did try to remind folk here that the Muslims have a long history of abusing OUR soldiers remains, going at least as far back as the Tripoli operations.
Those bodies remain in Tripoli to this day.
A short Google search will reveal details of what was done to OUR dead by the barbarians, including allowing them to be desecrated/consumed by dogs.

A little whizzing on some Taliban corpses is NOTHING by comparison.


42 posted on 01/13/2012 5:09:49 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: Clintonfatigued
On February 1, 1943, Life magazine published a photograph taken by Ralph Morse during the Guadalcanal campaign showing a decapitated Japanese head that US marines had propped up below the gun turret of a tank. Life received letters of protest from people "in disbelief that American soldiers were capable of such brutality toward the enemy." The editors responded that "war is unpleasant, cruel, and inhuman. And it is more dangerous to forget this than to be shocked by reminders." However, the image of the decapitated head generated less than half the amount of protest letters that an image of a mistreated cat in the very same issue received.[10]


43 posted on 01/13/2012 5:10:04 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ColdOne
they can shoot you and your friends - blow them up even - and you can shoot them - but you can't piss on them?

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44 posted on 01/13/2012 5:10:16 PM PST by Elle Bee
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To: SkyDancer; ColdOne
I predict this is what they will try to use, Article 134, the "General Article."

"Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court."

45 posted on 01/13/2012 5:11:43 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: ColdOne

I’d like to piss on the person who shot this video.


46 posted on 01/13/2012 5:13:02 PM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: ColdOne

I wish just ONE Tea Party Congressmen would complain about how this investigation of USMC urination is a waste of tax payer dollars.


47 posted on 01/13/2012 5:15:08 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: colorado tanker

What a waste of time and money. I protest. The investigation is trivial.


48 posted on 01/13/2012 5:16:45 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ColdOne

No women, no beer, far from home , might get you legs blown off any minute and some General wants to hang you for pissing on the enemy.

Thats todays military. It’s a miracle we still have men who want to join.


49 posted on 01/13/2012 5:24:52 PM PST by Venturer
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To: central_va
I couldn't agree more. They should have been given an Article 15, reprimanded and told not to do it again (at least not on camera).

But given that it's in press, and given who is in the White House and Pentagon, those guys will be dragged through the whole process.

50 posted on 01/13/2012 5:27:45 PM PST by colorado tanker
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