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Santorum: I'll Home-School In The White House
BuzzFeed ^ | January 14, 2012

Posted on 01/14/2012 8:50:33 AM PST by NYer

CHARLESTON, South Carolina -- Rick Santorum has no more loyal base than the crowd of home-schooled children and their parents who gathered here Thursday night. Not only are all of Santorum's children home-schooled by his wife Karen, but the family is committed to holistic medical treatments, health food, and Christian-inspired learning, popular causes with home-schoolers.

The topics covered at the Charleston town hall varied widely, but the conversation always returned to education. And Santorum, whose late grassroots rally in Iowa was built on the foundation of endorsements from various home school advocacy groups, was all too happy to rally the troops in the Palmetto State.

At one point, a woman came to the microphone to express her appreciation--and beg for some red meat.

"You are familiar, of course, with home schooling..." she began, before Santorum interrupted with a smile, "My wife is more familiar with home schooling."

"And we give her a shout-out for that!" the woman responded, sparking applause from the audience. Then she got to her question: "I was wondering if it's possible at all to influence at least the idea, I know the teachers' union is not crazy about it, but to try to get some home schooling... and be able to somehow work that into education without being a special interest?"

"Well obviously leading by example is a good thing," Santorum responded. "And having a homeschooling family in the White House would certainly be a shock to the establishment."

The crowd laughed, and then roared with applause. He went on to explain that parents, not any government body, should be in charge of determining what success means for their children's educational experience.

"It's going to be different for different parents," Santorum said. "And you know what? That's OK! I trust parents to instill values, and instill citizenship and all those things much more than I do the education system in America today. It's sad to say."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arth; frhf; homeschool; homeschooling; santorum
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1 posted on 01/14/2012 8:50:43 AM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Of possible interest, ping!


2 posted on 01/14/2012 8:51:32 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

He is not going make it NYER I hate to say I got give props telling Teacher union f**** themselves

Way I been reading his background he would do it he is Honey Badger of this Campaign he dont give it s***


3 posted on 01/14/2012 8:53:14 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: NYer

He is not going make it NYER I hate to say I got give props telling Teacher union f**** themselves

Way I been reading his background he would do it he is Honey Badger of this Campaign he dont give it s***


4 posted on 01/14/2012 8:53:30 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: NYer

He is not going make it NYER I hate to say I got give props telling Teacher union f**** themselves

Way I been reading his background he would do it he is Honey Badger of this Campaign he dont give it s***


5 posted on 01/14/2012 8:53:52 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: NYer

Interesting idea that could be made even better by streaming it online.


6 posted on 01/14/2012 8:55:11 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: NYer

Fix the damn schools!!


7 posted on 01/14/2012 8:58:59 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: NYer

God Bless him, I love it.


8 posted on 01/14/2012 8:59:27 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: NYer

Now there is something I can get behind 100% - too bad he won’t have the chance to eliminate the Dept. of Education - even Reagan failed miserably on that one.


9 posted on 01/14/2012 9:00:37 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sacajaweau

The last thing we want is a federal official “fixing” the schools. The only thing a president should do about the schools is shut down the Department of education and toss the responsibility back to the states.


10 posted on 01/14/2012 9:06:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: NYer

This is B.S.

Home schooling is not for everyone. It’s for an elite few, committed and fabulous though they may be.

Most people are not equipped to do it. They don’t have the money for one parent to stay at home and do it and most parents are not mentally and emotionally equipped to tackle this. I know I’m not.

A far better thing for Santorum to run on would be improving schools, defunding the NEA, stopping the unions which protect bad teachers, and, most of all, promoting school choice and vouchers.

This paints him as a sort of fringe, holier than thou guy, in my opinion.


11 posted on 01/14/2012 9:20:59 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: NYer

My sister in law home schools. Poor boys, she is so lazy, l really hope they make it out of it knowing how tio read and write.


12 posted on 01/14/2012 9:28:56 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Mitt Romney, a piss poor choice)
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13 posted on 01/14/2012 9:30:40 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: NYer

Rick is the right guy for the wrong time. We need someone that can take out two people: Romney then Obama. The stage has been set and Rick knows he is not going to be on it. Time for him to step off and let Newt do the heavy lifting.

There is only one, only one that can withstand what the Obama machine is about to unleash and that is Newt. Romney will be pissing his pants IF he would get the nomination after the attacks. Romney doesn’t have the balls nor the nature to take on the machine like Newt will.

Newt is the only one of the candidates that has the political background to campaign against these corrupt son’s of bitch’s. Newt will take it to them and make no mistake about that. Newt is the only one that can go nuclear on Obama. And that is what it is going to take.

If Rick went up against Obama it look like Mr. Rodger’s against Genghis Kahn.

GO NEWT!!!!!!!!


14 posted on 01/14/2012 9:31:36 AM PST by mmanager (Reagan Revolution + Republican Revolution = Bury Obama in 2012 - Go Newt!)
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To: altura
"This paints him as a sort of fringe, holier than thou guy,..."

And you have just painted yourself as well.

15 posted on 01/14/2012 9:31:53 AM PST by Sam's Army
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To: Sacajaweau

Or stop funding them. Publication education is a tremendous flop and a drain economically....needs to be done away with. At the very least, concerning federal involvement.


16 posted on 01/14/2012 9:35:02 AM PST by BloodAngel
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To: NYer

wasn’t Thomas Edison and Abe Lincoln home schooled?


17 posted on 01/14/2012 9:35:02 AM PST by Leep
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To: Sam's Army

I don’t think most people realize just how bad the schools are these days. The schools don’t even want kids to be able to learn on their own. That stands in the way of the ideological indoctrination required to create a society of dependent, compliant, robots.

I went to a public school myself but it was long enough ago that we still had teachers who were there because they loved teaching and seeing kids learn. These days, there isn’t a chance in hell that I would send a kid to my old school.


18 posted on 01/14/2012 9:50:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: altura
The public schools are beyond fixing. Sorry.

Kids aren't learning relevant 21st century skills like programming or rigorous science they are learning Gay History in California (soon to be the entire USA).

The NEA has so crippled US schools that they have become a joke and you can learn better online.
19 posted on 01/14/2012 10:01:53 AM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear

I remember the exact moment when my thinking went from wanting to fix the schools to realizing that it was hopeless. It was when I read the “We are one” pledge form being given to students so they could pledge to stand for collective bargaining rights, social justice, and against worker oppression.


20 posted on 01/14/2012 10:09:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: NYer

Home Schooling in the White House... that would be great. I want Rick to win. I think he would help cut the size of the government.


21 posted on 01/14/2012 10:23:13 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: Sam's Army

I am not a fringe, holier than thou person.

I am not holier than thou.

Well, maybe than thou, but not than everybody.

My point is that, while I admire people who are able and willing to home school, it is elitist in the sense that only a priveleged few can do it.

Public schools are sagging for various reasons but they are not totally useless.

All we need to do is a few sensible things and schools will be a viable option.

We need to abolish the education feds, and the unions among school teachers so that teachers can be judged on merit.

We should not burden teachers or other students with disruptive students. They should be expelled or sent to alternative facilities.

We should create options to bad public schools like vouchers to private schools. Private schools often do a better job for far less money.

Now, my parents home schooled in this sense. We went to public schools which were just fine back then. We were also raised in a home that had tons of books and took a daily newspaper and where the parents were good, loving people of high moral character who also had large vocabularies.

We learned from all that.

Is Rick Santorum planning to home school everybody at the White House or just his kids?

It’s a ridiculous ploy for the evangelical vote.


22 posted on 01/14/2012 10:24:38 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: SevenofNine

23 posted on 01/14/2012 10:31:11 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: SevenofNine

24 posted on 01/14/2012 10:31:11 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: ExCTCitizen
I think he's the only one currently in the race who will actually try to cut the size of government.

Gingrich is a master manipulator who talks a good game but if you pay any real attention you notice that he keeps all the options open. People got all excited when he said he would eliminate the EPA but they apparently missed the rest of the sentence where he said he would replace it with an "Environmental Solutions Agency". The rest of his explanations on this agency sound like the same old green energy solutions we've been suckered into paying for all along.
25 posted on 01/14/2012 10:38:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: altura
Home schooling is not for everyone. It’s for an elite few, committed and fabulous though they may be.

Gee, I didn't know I was a member of "an elite few."

I homeschooled our son from 6th through 8th grades. (After that, he enrolled in an online high school curriculum that is available from a midwestern university for far less than the cost of a private school.)

Yes, I stayed home so I could homeschool him. Husband earned the money. We live modestly.

If I had been a "working mom," i.e. working outside the home, I would've had to spend $$$ on clothing, shoes, commuting costs ... and, extra taxes on my income. How much would've been left over after that? Not enough to be worth throwing him to the wolves in the public schools.

Homeschooling is neither expensive, nor requires extraordinary skill or education.

26 posted on 01/14/2012 10:43:58 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: altura

Well said, very well said.


27 posted on 01/14/2012 10:49:14 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: altura

Your response demonstrates you know nothing about homeschooling.


28 posted on 01/14/2012 10:49:52 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: shhrubbery!

Agree. We homeschool our special needs son. I can stay home, forgo the job (where I’m throwing taxes at inefficient and corrupt governments) be available for my family ...and it’s really not too hard to teach 3rd grade math.

My son is making extremely good progress, does his math, reads and writes. At public school he was merely warehoused in “pull out” groups and/or meaningless inclusion activities.


29 posted on 01/14/2012 10:50:48 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: BloodAngel
The curriculum is a flop.

Go back to basics, stop this creative teaching cr** and do away with the competitive sports agenda.

We do appear to be evolving back to the days of Private schools and/or academies, i.e., charter schools. I do not believe home schooling is the answer.

Getting rid of the darn teachers and their unions with their ridiculous salaries and ridiculous pensions would take care of part of the problem.

30 posted on 01/14/2012 10:51:54 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: cripplecreek
I am a public school teacher. I have classrooms full of 11th and 12th graders who can't read. Nationally, public education facilities have adopted a word memorization reading program and have dropped phonics. There are even cases where schools have sent home letters instructing parents not to teach their children phonics because it doesn't work. Unfortunately that is all a lie and Big Ed knows it. It's easier to control a stupid society.
31 posted on 01/14/2012 10:54:15 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: shhrubbery!

My sister’s youngest kids go to public school but are also homeschooled. It helps that the whole extended family aids in the teaching. My interests lie in the areas of science, biology, nature, and history so I help out with that stuff a lot.


32 posted on 01/14/2012 10:56:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: goodwithagun

I think phonics is necessary to understanding. Its especially true as you advance into things that use latin root words like science and medicine.


33 posted on 01/14/2012 11:01:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: ASA Vet

And your point is? I don’t get what you’re showing us.


34 posted on 01/14/2012 11:15:28 AM PST by jackibutterfly (The American Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.)
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To: altura
Home schooling is not for everyone. It’s for an elite few, committed and fabulous though they may be.

Most people are not equipped to do it. They don’t have the money for one parent to stay at home and do it and most parents are not mentally and emotionally equipped to tackle this. I know I’m not.

From what I've seen, the typical homeschooling family has a modest income but also the ability to live cheap. (Homeschooled kids have no need to keep up with the Joneses, after all.)

Elites typically send their kids to private schools.

35 posted on 01/14/2012 11:24:25 AM PST by danielmryan
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To: altura

Half the homeschoolers I knew growing up were low income blue collar families. They made huge sacrifices to stay home. I knew single moms who homeschooled too. My own mother didn’t have a college degree.

Homeschooling Is for anyone who wants to try. There are plenty of excuses why you can’t do it. Most of them are crap.


36 posted on 01/14/2012 11:26:04 AM PST by JenB
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To: cripplecreek

I’d vote for Rick. We home-schooled for years.


37 posted on 01/14/2012 11:56:38 AM PST by FishinTX
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To: NYer

Home schooling — the first major issue I really like about Santorum. Not enough, however, to switch from Rick Perry, who I suspect has the same sentiments.


38 posted on 01/14/2012 12:10:41 PM PST by varina davis (Elect a real American patriot in 2012 -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: danielmryan

I agree with you and the other person who posted this information about homeschoolers.

From what I’ve observed they are usually religious people who care deeply about their kids and values and are willing to live a modest lifestyle to provide this for them.

I have the utmost respect for them.

Sorry, if I gave another impression.

All I’m saying is that this group is a minority in the wide, wide world of voters and Santorum shouldn’t maybe focus on them to the exclusion of other voters.


39 posted on 01/14/2012 12:53:17 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura
From what I’ve observed they are usually religious people who care deeply about their kids and values and are willing to live a modest lifestyle to provide this for them.

That's what I saw too, FRiend. I actually hesitated before posting my response, because I wasn't sure what you meant by "elite." They certainly are outliers; not so long ago, they were outcasts.

And you are right about them being a small minority. Myself, I though it would be an interesting use of the bully pulpit.

40 posted on 01/14/2012 1:29:58 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Being from SO CAL I know that for fact they doing already in certain LA Unified School district I don’t give s*** that some of history figure were Gay Bi or transgender who give s****


41 posted on 01/14/2012 3:56:36 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: altura

>>it is elitist in the sense that only a priveleged few can do it.<<

Wrong.
If my nephew and his wife, who make 35,000 a year can homeschool, anyone can give it, at least a pretty good shot.

It’s not a matter of CAN’T, it’s a matter of WON’T. I’m not better than thou nor do I think that way, but I’m tired of the “Can’t” attitude that those who have never tried display.

In our Homeschool group, there are single moms, single dads, Military Spouses who’s mates are overseas and families where both parent work. We have unschoolers, lapbook learners, virtual school students and people who send their kids to co-ops. We have all kinds.

Now, if you want to say that most people don’t want to sacrifice a second income or some parents find it adequate to send his/her child to school, I’m with you. But with as simple as it is to put together free curriculum and educate your child, there are many more ‘won’t’ people than ‘can’t’ people.

The homeschoolers aren’t the elitists. There are a million and a half of us just wanting to be left alone.


42 posted on 01/14/2012 4:39:11 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom

I used to feel that homeschooling was only for people of means like private schools but have since figured out that choice is a major part of it.

How many people put Cable TV, new cars and assorted crap before the education of their children? The mess our schools are in is only part of a much wider problem within society. There’s just no limit to what people think they should have and no line drawn between luxury and need.

As far as I’m concerned, if a parent isn’t willing to sacrifice for their child, they aren’t much of a parent.


43 posted on 01/14/2012 5:09:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: metmom; wintertime

What could be better for the homeschooling movement than a homeschooling American President?


44 posted on 01/14/2012 5:13:51 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: netmilsmom; All

I’ve got some advice for people.

Don’t say anything negative about home schooling or home schoolers. Nothing that can be perceived as negative, no matter how many nice things you say or how hard you try to make up.

Those people will hit you with everything they’ve got.

They’re tough.


45 posted on 01/14/2012 5:18:54 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: SLB

Fyi


46 posted on 01/14/2012 5:20:00 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: altura
I’ve got some advice for people.

Don’t say anything negative about home schooling or home schoolers our nation's socialist godless schools. Nothing that can be perceived as negative, no matter how many nice things you say or how hard you try to make up.

Those people godless socialist school defenders will hit you with everything they’ve got.

They’re tough.

47 posted on 01/14/2012 6:13:28 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Sacajaweau
Fix the damn schools!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It is impossible to fix godlessness and socialism.

Our government schools are utterly godless in their worldview and are the very **definition** of a socialist-entitlement program.

It must be abolished.

48 posted on 01/14/2012 6:18:01 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: altura
most parents are not mentally and emotionally equipped to tackle this. I know I’m not.
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I am sorry.

Yes, some children will need institutionalization for their schooling. Some parents are too sick, too mentally ill, too unstable, too emotionally ill-equipped, too poor, too stupid, too vain, too materialistic, too annoyed by their kids, too undisciplined, too ill-educated themselves, etc, to homeschool.

These kids need institutionalization. It's a shame. We need orphanages, too, but no one is say it is the best way to rear or educate a child.

We have old age homes for the same reasons.

49 posted on 01/14/2012 6:25:43 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: altura
A far better thing for Santorum to run on would be improving schools,
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What? Make existing state schools even more godless and more socialist?

How is it possible to reform godlessness and socialism? Our nation's schools are the very definition of a godless worldview socialist entitlement..

50 posted on 01/14/2012 6:28:22 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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