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Romney opens 21-point lead in South Carolina: Reuters/Ipsos(sample 995 SC reg. voters 398R 380D)
Reuters ^ | Saturday January 14, 2012 | Jeff Mason

Posted on 01/14/2012 3:50:40 PM PST by Bigtigermike

(Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has opened a wide lead over his rivals in the South Carolina primary election race, trouncing Newt Gingrich and gaining momentum in his march toward the party's nomination, a Reuters/Ipsos poll shows.

Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, could all but quash his rivals' presidential aspirations with a victory in South Carolina on January 21 after winning the first state-by-state nominating contests in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Voters in South Carolina - who have favored Republicans in nine of the last 10 presidential elections - appear to have shrugged off attacks on Romney by rivals who accuse him of killing jobs as a private equity executive for Bain Capital in the 1990s.

The poll showed 37 percent of South Carolina Republican voters back Romney. Congressman Ron Paul and former Senator Rick Santorum tied for second place with 16 percent support.

Gingrich, a former speaker of the House of Representatives, has fallen far back after holding a strong lead in South Carolina in December. He was in fourth place at 12 percent in the Reuters/Ipsos poll.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: gosantorum; mittromney; newt; romney; southcarolina
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To: exit82

The guy who won Iowa.

Newt hasn’t lead Mitt anywhere in over a month. Not even in the South.


51 posted on 01/14/2012 4:23:52 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: neal1960
Here in upstate South Carolina, I have found NO ONE supporting RINO ROMNEY

And Pauline Kael didn't know anyone who voted for Reagan.

If you're unhappy with Romney get the vote out for Santorum. Don't just complain about "rigged polls" that probably aren't. Do something about it.

52 posted on 01/14/2012 4:23:56 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: BenKenobi
Time to get behind Santorum.

Trouble is, Santorum doesn't have that many voters who want to get behind him.

53 posted on 01/14/2012 4:24:29 PM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: Bigtigermike

I agree. There is no way Romney leads in SC by that much.


54 posted on 01/14/2012 4:25:02 PM PST by rintense
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To: Bigtigermike
could all but quash his rivals' presidential aspirations with a victory in South Carolina on January 21

The last time I was seriously involved in a nomination battle was 1968 (I was playing for the other team then).

At that time, it was not possible to be the "winner" with 37% of the votes in a primary.

When RFK walked to his rendezvous with jihad on June 5, the matter was still very much undecided - because none of the 3 major candidates had a majority of the delegates, and THAT was because no one had consistently won >50% of the votes.

This Romney problem is a RULES problem. Romney is not "winning" ANYTHING, if by "winning" you mean getting more than half the voters.

This ridiculous situation has been created by the RNC and the State committees, and, if there is a GOP left after the consequences of a Romney nomination become clear (I think there will not be), then the rules should be changed.

55 posted on 01/14/2012 4:25:47 PM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Bigtigermike

It is an on line push poll. Anyone can vote in it on line.

Don’t trust this. If S.C. does not stop, Romney, they will be blamed for giving us Obama.


56 posted on 01/14/2012 4:26:08 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: ExtremeUnction

Then we get to have Obama re-elected President.

Pubbies ain’t gonna turn out for Mitt.


57 posted on 01/14/2012 4:26:27 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: exit82

BenKenobi is just being a delusional Sanitorium supporter, grasping at any illusory glimmers of hope they possibly can that little Ricky has a chance.

This is an online poll composed of ~40% Democrats. Do not to take it seriously.


58 posted on 01/14/2012 4:26:54 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: BenKenobi
Newt is done. Stick a fork in him. Time to get behind Santorum.

You're now so desperate, that you're putting your faith in INTERNET polls? With 40% DEMOCRAT participation? LOL

59 posted on 01/14/2012 4:28:05 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Bigtigermike; Admin Moderator

With respect for all, since this is a bogus, online poll, I suggest it be removed from “Breaking News,” thanks.


60 posted on 01/14/2012 4:28:13 PM PST by unspun (It's the Sovereignty, Stu... | We are Gulag Bound)
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To: ExtremeUnction

I said he will lose to OBama

I should vote for Romney because he is inevitable?

Why should i support Romney? I ask any Romney supporter? here

he couldn’t win a second term in MA so he didn’t run.
He lost Senate race to Ted Kennedy
He lost to McCain in 2008 Presidential Race

that’s the extent of his political record

We need somebody who can attract Hillary voters. like Rick Santorum.
not Romney

The #1 issue is Obamacare/Romneycare

At least Newt will give Obama a great debate

We need a clear contrast.

not someone who has to check with his advisor to go to the bathroom

he doesn’t know who he is


61 posted on 01/14/2012 4:28:56 PM PST by preamble
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To: Windflier

I’m putting my faith in Iowa.

How ‘bout you.


62 posted on 01/14/2012 4:29:18 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: BenKenobi
The guy who won Iowa.

Technically, Mitt won IA. So you're supporting Mitt, eh? I see how it is.
63 posted on 01/14/2012 4:29:18 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Bigtigermike

This poll - apparently - wasn’t done to report reality. It was done to create a reality. It’s purpose is to produce headlines. Headlines that drive perception/momentum for the media’s desired outcome. It will be mindlessly parroted non-stop regardless of it’s dubious validity.

Drive the herd cowboys!


64 posted on 01/14/2012 4:29:32 PM PST by TBBT
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To: gorush

I as well cannot hold my nose any longer. Sometimes not voting expressing your voice.


65 posted on 01/14/2012 4:31:10 PM PST by Dogbert41
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To: ExtremeUnction

Santorum probably won Iowa. It was played up as a huge
win for the liberal Romney. If Santorum wanted, he could contest it and he would be the winner.

The liberal Romney has been running for president in adopted homestate of NH for years and manages to get 39% of the vote.

61% of the people in one of the most liberal states in the United States can’t stand the SOB.

But all you hear on the Romney Network, AKA FauxNSNBC is how Iowa and NH were historic victories for the liberal Romney because no GOP candidate had ever won them both.

The Romney Network, AKA FauxMSNBC News, is trying like to manipulate this GOP primary. They are trying everthing in their liberal arsenal to try and convence anybody that’ll listen that the liberal Romney WILL BE THE GOP NOMINEE, so no need in even bothering to go and vote because their favorite liberal is loved by the masses and conservatives are hated.


66 posted on 01/14/2012 4:31:32 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: preamble
We need somebody who can attract Hillary voters. like Rick Santorum.

How is Santorum attracting Hillary voters?

67 posted on 01/14/2012 4:32:40 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Bigtigermike

Online poll - it won’t even be registered at the online polling conglomorates.

Even the liberals don’t take them seriously.

Hardly breaking news. LOL

(P.S. Only 40% Republicans in the SC Primary? Please. Wasn’t it over 70% the last three cycles?)


68 posted on 01/14/2012 4:33:39 PM PST by TitansAFC (Rick Santuckabee is 2012's version of Mike Huckatorum. Avoid Conservicide voting; support Newt!!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Tow pissant states and now this one with an OPEN primary and I’m supposed to even paying attention? Absurd. Why have a World Series? Super Bowl? World Cup? Just let whatever team who wins the first couple of games be crowned the best....

America can be a really stupid place sometimes...


69 posted on 01/14/2012 4:33:42 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Utmost Certainty

There’s a certified count? Cool. Where?


70 posted on 01/14/2012 4:34:02 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: BenKenobi
I think I’ll stick with the winner, TYVM.

You're as bad as the Perry die-hards. Your guy is sinking rapidly in all of the real polls, but there you stand, waving your pom-poms day and night.

Get a grip, friend. At least stop pretending that he's winning, when he clearly is not.

71 posted on 01/14/2012 4:35:02 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: thecodont

Apparently he is. Don’t question the narrative. ;)


72 posted on 01/14/2012 4:35:02 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: Windflier

My candidate won a primary.

Maybe Newt can finish third here.


73 posted on 01/14/2012 4:36:53 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: TBBT

Understand how surges work. The other polls suggest that there might be a chance of a Newt surge. The media knows that many of the great unwashed are highly influenced by polls. Got to nip any chance of a Newt surge in the bud.


74 posted on 01/14/2012 4:36:57 PM PST by TBBT
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Indeed. Those who believe in polls should realize that they are like statistics.

The most consistently accurate pollster seems to be Rasmussen, in whose latest poll:

South Carolina Primary: Romney 28%, Gingrich 21%, Santorum 16%, Paul 16%


75 posted on 01/14/2012 4:36:58 PM PST by bigbob
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To: gorush

Regardless of the outcome, you are correct we (USA) are headed for a time most of us knew would come eventuality but not necessary in our life times.
The Second Amendment was put in for just this fearful out come. (Man that does seem paranoid, not making my self as clear as I want, maybe I need more coffee another drink...who knows)
Ok, back to football, and the hubby is making me a gin/tonic....hope that helps.


76 posted on 01/14/2012 4:38:19 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: bigbob

Rasmussen is pretty standard for most of the SC polls in last few days as well. Mitt leading Newt by 2 to 7 points and Newt 5 to 8 ahead of Santorum.


77 posted on 01/14/2012 4:39:40 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: neal1960

I saw one yard sign in a grassy lot on Woodruff Road near Five Forks, but that’s the only one I’ve seen.


78 posted on 01/14/2012 4:42:13 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Now who goes to a Reuters website to vote but liberals. This online poll is pure BS. It just goes to show that the liberals are afraid of Newt the most. GO NEWT GO!


79 posted on 01/14/2012 4:42:28 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: BenKenobi

I was warning people that this was in the cards. But, nobody listened

__________________________________________________

You warned people about a loaded internet poll that had almost as many dimwits as it did pubs?

Otherwise, let he is without sin cast the first stone.


80 posted on 01/14/2012 4:45:19 PM PST by Leep
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To: BenKenobi
I was warning people that this was in the cards. But, nobody listened.

What? No one listened when you brayed all over the place about some worthless internet push poll, or your other harebrained theories? Gee, I wonder why.

All you do is run around this site cheer leading for Rick Santorum, who's been nothing but a second tier candidate without a prayer, since the beginning of the race. And now you're all over the place claiming that Santorum's "winning", when he's clearly sinking back to the bottom of the pack.

I chuckle in your general direction.

81 posted on 01/14/2012 4:45:59 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: gorush

I do worry that we won’t be able to stop Obama. If not, we’re done. All the ground troops know that but the movers and shakers are oblivious.


82 posted on 01/14/2012 4:46:57 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Windflier

Nobody listens because in their world, Newt is 20 points ahead of Mitt and the road is clear.

If only those annoying Rick fans would quit and drop out and back Newt Gingrich, if only they would come to their senses, Newt would win and we’d ride to victory.

I happen to be a voice in the wilderness arguing that there is another option. You don’t have to settle on Newt. You CAN have the conservative.

You ignore evidence you don’t like, and refuse to take in evidence that is contrary to what you believe. Which is fine. You don’t like this poll, ok. Then why is Santorum showing up 2nd?

Why is it only NEWT and nobody else that is hurt by the poll?

What’s going on here?


83 posted on 01/14/2012 4:51:12 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: Gator113

At least you’ll get 40% of what you want with Romney , instead of minus 25% from Obama .


84 posted on 01/14/2012 4:51:42 PM PST by sushiman
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To: preamble
We need somebody who can attract Hillary voters. like Rick Santorum. not Romney

Now there's some twisted logic. If all you want is someone with an R behind their name to win, you may as well vote for Romney. Sheeesh!



85 posted on 01/14/2012 4:52:08 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jim Noble

“...if there is a GOP left after the consequences of a Romney nomination become clear (I think there will not be)...”

I agree. Very few do. Nevertheless, I think this will be their bridge to far. The GOP corpse will fall on top of the brittle bones of the Whigs.


86 posted on 01/14/2012 4:52:08 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Bigtigermike

You good folks just don’t get it. Mitt Romney is not giving Newt Gingrich a beating. It is Newt Gingrich that made the bed he is now is now sleeping in. The poor fellow has some unbalance problems and does not know it!!! No person would have pulled what Gingrich has if they had a grip on reality!!! No, ladies & gentlemen, Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry are not the “Ones”!!! That so many Freepers cannot grasp this is frightening!!! Newt is no conservative, period!!! They should join Obama and Company. They fit right in with all the lefties!!!


87 posted on 01/14/2012 4:53:38 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Bigtigermike
I am hoping for a R. Santorum surge. If the poll is accurate, it is thanks to the stupid acts of Newt Gringrich and Perry.
88 posted on 01/14/2012 4:54:19 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: BenKenobi

You come across as though it seems you are only hoping that he is done.


89 posted on 01/14/2012 4:54:41 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: BenKenobi

“Pubbies ain’t gonna turn out for Mitt.”

Pubbies will. Conservatives will not. Probably not many libertarians either.


90 posted on 01/14/2012 4:54:59 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Bigtigermike

An online poll from al-Reuters, that admits a good bit of the respondents were Leftists.

And of course, they’re pimping Willard, ensuring the second crowning of the Kenyan Muslim.


91 posted on 01/14/2012 4:55:00 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: BenKenobi

“Newt is done. Stick a fork in him.

Time to get behind Santorum.”

______________________________________

Before we all get on Santorum’s band wagon, we need to know what his voting record is.

This is just some of the worst of it:

RICK SANTORUM

VOTED AGAINST INCREASING THE NUMBER OF IMMIGRATION INVESTIGATORS
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00201

VOTED TO ALLOW ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO RECEIVE THE EARNED INCOME CREDIT BEFORE BECOMING CITIZENS
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00154

VOTED TO GIVE SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=105&session=1&vote=00058

SANTORUM: TRIM SOCIAL SECURITY NOW- EVEN IF PAINFUL.http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j7O34Bpp42k-IlMMNiOLBkYF2zNw?docId=b1cff9ecefe24ca6ae1764a09761e361

VOTED TO GIVE WELFARE BENEFITS TO NATURALIZED CITIZENS without regard to to the earnings of their sponsors
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=104&session=1&vote=00427

VOTED AGAINST HIRING AN ADDITIONAL 1,000 BORDER PATROL AGENTS, paid for by reductions in state grants.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00179

VOTED AGAINST FOOD STAMP REFORM
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00353

VOTED AGAINST MEDICAID REFORM
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00352

VOTED TO INCREASE THE SOCIAL SERVICES BLOCK GRANT FROM $1 BILLION to $2 BILLION
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=1&vote=00302

VOTED TO RAID SOCIAL SECURITY instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=2&vote=00056

VOTED TO IMPOSE A UNIFORM FEDERAL MANDATE ON STATES TO FORCE THEM TO ALLOW CONVICTED RAPISTS, ARSONISTS, DRUG KINGPINS AND ALL OTHER EX-CONVICTS TO VOTE IN FEDERAL ELECTIONS.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00031

It’s going to be Romney or Newt or by a slim chance, Santorum.

VOTED AGAINST INCREASING THE NUMBER OF IMMIGRATION INVESTIGATORS?
VOTED TO GIVE WELFARE BENEFITS TO NATURALIZED CITIZENS?
VOTED AGAINST HIRING AN ADDITIONAL 1,000 BORDER PATROL AGENTS?
VOTED AGAINST FOOD STAMP REFORM?
VOTED AGAINST MEDICAID REFORM?

People NEED to know this about Santorum’s voting record.

Newt is NOT my first choice, and I can’t say I like him that much.
I just feel it will take a man of Newt’s bravery, (yes, bravery. Newt’s right. The others are too timid to debate Obama) intellect, experience and debating skills to bring the Marxist/Muslim down.
Have we all forgotten his smack-downs of his RINO opponents and the Obama butt-licking interviewers?
All agree he’s the most intelligent, experienced and the most skilled at debating- even the Obama loving Media.

Obama is going to have a billion dollars in this campaign fund, the commie MSM in his back pocket, he’ll use the same same voter fraud methods, and illegal overseas contributiions as he did in ‘08.
Do you think the rats are going to let the commie coup they they have hoped for for generations slip through their fingers??
The fight is going to be the hardest fought and the dirtiest in U.S history.
We have GOT to have a STRONG man with the experience, intellect and debating skills to go up against Obama- or America is doomed.

.


92 posted on 01/14/2012 4:58:40 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Leep

I warned that a substantial portion of Newt’s support was moderates and independents.

Of course, I also looked at the actual data in Iowa and New Hampshire before coming to that conclusion.

Santorum’s support is conservative. Almost all of it. No indies, no moderates.

By having all the solid conservatives push Santorum, we can get our support behind the conservative. Pushing Newt - doesn’t really help us, because when the Moderates break for Romney, we’re left holding the bag.

Which is what’s happened here.

I know the oversample is a problem. What is puzzling to me is that Newt is the only one hurt by the oversample. If Santorum’s getting 40 percent of those who are the conservatives, Newt gets 20 percent, Paul gets 10 and Romney gets 30, then not exactly good news for Newt is it?


93 posted on 01/14/2012 4:58:40 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: BenKenobi
I’m putting my faith in Iowa.

Good for you.

"History since 1976 has shown us that if the candidate is not the incumbent president, unless the incumbent President is serving his second term, if the said candidate wins the Iowa Caucus for his party, he USUALLY does not win his party's nomination but NEVER becomes President of the United States.

Since 1976, only two candidates who won the Iowa Caucus for their parties ever became the President of the United States. They were George W. Bush in 2000, and Barack Obama in 2008; however, had either of the incumbent presidents, Bill Clinton or President Bush, respectively, not been serving their second terms, neither Candidate Bush nor Barack Obama would have won their general elections for the President of the United States, history shows."

2012 Iowa Republican Caucus winner won't become president, history shows

94 posted on 01/14/2012 4:59:00 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: gorush

I think (since we are offering opinions here) that Romney is going to walk away with the nomination.

Then, most likely, lose the general.

Because obama is so completely loathed by a large percentage, he might run a close race.

But obama is going to eat Romney alive I fear.

The American Spectator piece on why he was a weak general candidate was pretty devastating.


95 posted on 01/14/2012 4:59:25 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Glad that this is all cleared up.
96 posted on 01/14/2012 5:00:30 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: Psalm 144

I’ll chalk it up to O for 2012 with Romney.

No point in Cons turning out.

I want to see what happened with the republicans in this poll.


97 posted on 01/14/2012 5:00:30 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: Windflier

And congressmen don’t become president.


98 posted on 01/14/2012 5:01:53 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: Bigtigermike

This is making me NOT vote this year.....


99 posted on 01/14/2012 5:02:10 PM PST by yield 2 the right ( Space blank until I come up with a nice Tagline.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

This particular poll is so invalid that it screams “fake” to anyone who even begins to look

It is simply registered voters. It is not likely voters. It is not likely republican voters

Also the sample is HALF democrats and HALF republicans in a poll for the republican primary

Finally, it is an “online” poll.

And they’re pushing this as valid?

They are on drugs.


100 posted on 01/14/2012 5:02:24 PM PST by xzins (Vulture Capitalism is Crony Capitalism on Crack)
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