Skip to comments.RON PAUL ON IRAN: ‘WE SHOULD HAVE GREAT EMPATHY FOR THEM’ (Not a Ghostwriter again)
Posted on 01/15/2012 9:07:31 AM PST by mnehring
(video at link)
"This idea that they're looking for a fight, I think that is all a concoction of the West so as to prepare the people for a war that is likely to come when we have a policy like this. I think it makes the perfect argument for my non-intervention foreign policy. We shouldn't be engaged and stirring up trouble."
I am sorry, but Ron Paul reminds me of an adolescent who makes provocative statements to get a rise out of his parents.
He’s not just a Nut....he’s a dangerous Nut.
Let’s face it. In your guts, you know he’s nuts. The man’s ideology prevents him from seeing anything contrary to his views. He’s really a Benedict Arnold because, like Arnold, his own ambition trumps his loyalty to the US. This noneffective loon with zero accomplishments in congress is further to the Left than Obama on foreign policy. He’s the champion of perverts, pot heads, anti-American popinjays.
Ron Paul. Anti-Semite. Stormfront ally. 9-11 Truther. Isolationist. Muslim apologist. Ally of George Soros.
No thank you.
Its sad that so many don’t understand the difference between libertarian and conservative....
What’s amazing is that the admirers of Ron Paul on FreeRepublic never come to defend him when his deficiencies are pointed out.
They simply ignore them, which tells you that the issues surrounding those deficiencies really aren’t that important to them, and furthermore, they really aren’t conservatives.
They won’t budge, but they expect you to budge.
I lean libertarian, let me channel Frederick Hayeck to Ron Paul: You sir, are no Austrian.
Every day Paul becomes more dangerous and more delusional than the day before.
There is respectable Libertarianism and then there is the Run Paul dumbed down type. Paul’s is the Right Wing hippy type that turned Ayn Rand off. It’s for people who care passionately about ideas but not a wit about the their consequences.
Good grief, there actually is someone claiming to be a Republican who is actually as STUPID as Obama.
May they both rest in pig s**t in a vault in Mecca someday.
The Iranians tried to revolt against the tyrants who would sacrifice their lives while hiding in a bunker. No one came to their aid... I think the everyday Iranians may not be the death to America crowd we are shown by their media.
I defy you to tell me they're not the same person.
Paul is talking about their leadership, specifically in context in this video, those who are heading the military and have nuclear ambitions. He isn’t talking about the students and people who try to uprise. In other words, he is talking about having empathy for the very people who have massacred the very people you describe.
Cute attempt at spinning though.
I don’t know ...
I’ve personally known young Iranians, who just want to be free, just like you and me. Their regime is terrible. Their young people feel powerless.
I don’t think talking about war with Iran is going to win in this presidential election in 2012. I think it’s a loser issue.
Blowing up an unarmed scientist was not something I’m particularly happy about. Flame away.
See post 15.
Students aren’t the ones ordering naval and military movements. Students aren’t the ones with ‘nuclear ambitions’
The people in Iran who does that (who Paul says we should emphasize with) are the people who massacre the people you describe when they try to rise up.
He’s not nuts. He knows exactly what he’s doing and what he’s saying. He’s been saying it all for 40 years, practicaly verbatim.
That makes him evil.
And it makes the Republican Party complicit in whatever damage he’s able to do. He should have been treated like the rat in the kitchen that he is a long, long time ago.
Same goes for his fraud son.
Who blew him up and why?
That said, I feel obliged to give the devil his due. Ron Paul isn't following blind ambition as did Benedict Arnold, nor is he a Stormfront secret operative. He has been a longtime friend of Walter Williams, whose own views are pretty close to Paul's. He has a point of view which corresponds pretty well to Thomas' Jefferson's, in regard to foreign policy: "...let our affairs be disentangled from those of all other nations..." He sees freedom to the degree that Iran should be free to make nuclear weapons, and no government should intervene because government intervention is just about always bad. Likewise, he sees personal liberty to such an extreme that he is blind to the Muslim threat.
I admire the devotion to liberty and desire to get out of this constant state of war, but his blindness to foreign threats could be devastating to this country and to the world.
Bat sh*t crazy. Anyone that supports this nut has to be a drugged out hippie.
I have a difficult time with having empathy for a cancer because the radiologist has been giving it a hard time and may have killed some benign tissue co-mingled with the cancer.
And would Paul please point out to me when Islam was NOT a cancer in it's behavior toward the body public.
Ron Paul is a stone nut. And those that support him are equally as bad.
Cute attempt at spinning though.
You are projecting sir.
Paul is talking about Iran as a whole, the Mullocracy, Ahmadinejad and the people, or are you admitting Ron Paul is a batsheist imbecile with no clue about how leadership works???
The ones with the nukes and the ambitions to USE the nukes on the Great and Little Satan IS THE LEADERSHIP.
THEY CONTROL THE COUNTRY.
THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WILL LAUNCH THE MISSILES.
THEY ARE THE ONES CALLING FOR OUR ANNIHILATION AND ISRAEL TO BE WIPED OFF THE MAP.
Paul does NOT distinguish the difference between the leadership and the Iranian people. In Paultard's mind, we need to leave Iran alone and let them do whatever.
Obama already did this and allowed the Ahmadinejad regime to CRUSH the freedom movement in Iran while at the same time Obama was aiding the Muslim Brotherhood uprising in Egypt.
Ron Paul would simply let the world go it's own way and leave anyone trying to take over the world and crush any opposition, alone to do whatever they want.
Ron Paul is more likely WORSE than Obama for the Presidency - and these idiotic statements of his just continue to prove it.
It’s time to put Granpa Ron back in his straightjacket, give him his Thorazine and put him back in the attic.
Yes. The White House is not Shady Pines.
I don’t support Paul, but I salute him as he completes his last campaign. He’s wrong on many levels, but fringers are part of a free society.
Unfortunately he has failed in one very large way. He has failed to make young people understand his fiscal responsibility message while succeeding in getting them to support his suicidal foreign policy.
That is too bad as it leaves him a total failure after all these years.
“Whats amazing is that the admirers of Ron Paul on FreeRepublic never come to defend him when his deficiencies are pointed out.”
Is is fun watching the very few that try. The majority simply avoid the facts about how loony and dangerous he is. I’ve seen others say they don’t agree with him on the long list of negatives but they don’t care because he will blah, blah, blah. Never mind that he has never gained support in Congress for anything. And a few, simply deny the long list of facts are true.
Much more dangerous is the fact that too many Americans support someone with his toxic; suicidal views.
There will always be nutcases; but when people fall in line and support a nutcase; bad things can happen.
The supporters of Paul are crazy scary as well.
It does not matter if you show them written or video of what he has said, even using several sources, is is fluffed off as “the man is afraid of him” “or “they know he can beat BHO, or “they are lying” or other such stuff.
If I hear one more time he is a constitutionalists I am going to smack someone.
If I hear one more time he is like the founders, its going to be a kick to the knee cap.
Paul is a lunatic. He is delusional and knows nothing about the founders and the constitution that is real. He is living in some alternate universe with his conclusions.
I am going to start calling him alterpaul.
I have said it before in various ways and I will say it again: Ron Paul is to the constitution as Fred Phelps is to the Bible.
Just heard this morning that Ron Paul is encouraging his son to run for president in 2016.
Rand Paul is starting to sound like his dad now, what will he sound like four years from now, or twenty.
It's the only reason Ron isn't gonna run as an independent which would destroy his son's future in the GOP.
A non-insane, non-senile, non-terrorist sympathizing version of Ron Paul would be tempting for a strong fiscal conservative such as myself. But I don't trust Ron Paul's son to be that person, after all he supports his crazy father and owes his position to him. If his name was Paul Rand he would be have crushed by Grayson in the GOP Senate primary.
The more I see and hear Rand Paul the more he sounds like his father, alterPaul.
“It’s the only reason Ron isn’t gonna run as an independent which would destroy his son’s future in the GOP.”
So you love the Iranians so much that you want a nuclear Iran, which will lead to nuclear war and millions of dead Iranians. Please tell me that you don’t love Americans, becuase we don’t want your kind of compassion.
It wasn’t spin... It is the absolute truth. Are you, on FR, suggesting people should be judged by what their leadership tells the world? Just wow .
Are you agreeing we should have empathy for the leadership that massacres her people? Just WOW!
Paul should not run for President, it seems like he should just start a religion the way he can get people to agree with the most vile crap.
like i have said elsewhere, looks like the grassroots right (religious right & Reaganites) have conceded the base to the Paul cult. So they will have to be content to back Rand Paul in ‘16 or stay out of it.
Not even Palin could crack the cult which is draining 20% of the vote away which is 40% of the conservative vote.
Maybe I was not clear.. Leadership be damned! I certainly hope the world doesn’t think our leadership speaks for me personally. I was saying... A crazy nut job in Irans leadership does not necessarily represent the majority of people in Iran. Instead their crazy dictator will put his people in terrible danger, while he hides out in a safe zone. Therefore, his willingness to sacrifice everyone but himself does not mean every Iranian is a twelver. What you called spin, sounds more reflective of the dozen Persians I have spoken to. Same in this country.. I hope it is understood by others that US leadership may want to sacrifice me economically or other ways, they clearly do not represent me.
No, I do want the sensible Iranians to live, of course. I just don't know if simply blowing scientists up is a wise policy (not that I'm certain it was a US action - I don't think it was). I would prefer a more direct approach if we must take one. Simply stirring up a hornets nest and running away seems bizarre.
I was simply trying to point out that THIS issue is a big political loser this year. I don't think Mr. Santorum is going to win on his pet issue, which is Iran, and I don't think Mr. Paul is going to be hurt a bit by talking about giving up. I think the latter person is following American trends - it's an objective observation on my part. Something like 80% of people polled were happy to be out of Iraq. People are wary of sending their young and lovely sons and daughters over there. Yes, I blame Obama and his utter lack of vision for the region. He has none.
I do think we managed to overcome Soviet communism without direct involvement in regime change. I would prefer that model, if it were possible. I despise the fact that Mr. Obama refused to stand up for the Iranians two years ago. But I'm also suspicious of these "Democracy" movements, aka "Arab Springs". Democracy always sacrifices the weaker party, and what we're seeing now is terrible persecution of Christian in Egypt, among other places.