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Hearing to begin for voter ID challenge
Wisconsin State Journal ^ | 1-15-12

Posted on 01/15/2012 6:02:18 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic

A judge is scheduled to hear arguments this week about the constitutionality of Wisconsin's new voter photo identification law.

Supporters argue the Republican-authored law will help curtail fraud. Opponents counter the law disenfranchises groups of people who likely don't have identification, such as the poor, minorities and the disabled.

The League of Women Voters filed a lawsuit in Dane County against Gov. Scott Walker and state election officials challenging the law. The group argues the state constitution bars only children, felons and the mentally incompetent from voting and the Legislature improperly prohibited a new class of people — namely, those without IDs — from voting.

The state Justice Department has filed a motion to dismiss the case.

Judge Richard Niess is set to hear arguments on Thursday.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: fraud; leagueofwomenvoters; qualifications; residency

1 posted on 01/15/2012 6:02:21 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; TaMoDee; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ..

Wisconsin League of Women Voters Lawsuit Ping (voter ID)

If you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list, just FReep Mail me and it shall be done.


2 posted on 01/15/2012 6:04:01 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

OK I support fully the need for honest eligible voters.

More importantly why aren’t the politicians of both Parties demanding voting methods that are 100% hack and corruption free and able to be audited fully by independents instead of allowing what we have, which are the corrupt networked black box machines that can count our votes at will and take our rights away?

Both Parties would prefer controlling us than working for their vote.


3 posted on 01/15/2012 6:09:49 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Why would the poor, minorities and disabled have less of a chance of having an id?

The argument has no merit.

Presumably the disabled have access to welfare programs. That requires an id.

There is no barrier to a minority having an id, none at all.

As for the poor, is it harder for them to get a driver’s license or id? There is a cost, but do they not get one anyway, for instance, if they are poor enough to get food stamps, do they not have to produce an id to receive them?


4 posted on 01/15/2012 6:09:57 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The League of Women Fraudulent Voters filed a lawsuit in Dane County
5 posted on 01/15/2012 6:10:33 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“...prohibited a new class of people — namely, those without IDs — from voting.”

This law does not prohibit anyone from voting. It requires that voters have an ID. Not quite the same as being a convicted felon. Typical leftist demagoguery.


6 posted on 01/15/2012 6:11:00 PM PST by CTyank
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Honest elections are racist.
7 posted on 01/15/2012 6:35:23 PM PST by Happy Rain ("Newt Rick or Rick cuz four more with the Twit will put America in the....")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

It took several years in court but we finally have our Michigan ID law in place and it doesn’t seem to be a problem.


8 posted on 01/15/2012 6:40:15 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I guess I’m just a little bit kooky...but why should one not have to show some sort of identification to participate in an election.

He!!..I had to show i.d. to get on a plane. Or buy a beer...well once upon a time. :)


9 posted on 01/15/2012 6:55:30 PM PST by berdie
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To: afraidfortherepublic; All
The League of Women Voters filed a lawsuit in Dane County against Gov. Scott Walker and state election officials challenging the law.

NOW will Republicans FINALLY stop participating in any way in debates or other activities sponsored by the LWV? Wasn't the LWV bitch who tried to stop the pledge of allegiance in 2010 enough to convince them?

10 posted on 01/15/2012 6:56:23 PM PST by montag813
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To: afraidfortherepublic

All of these suits are filed in Dane County ... is it a simpering bed of liberal scum?


11 posted on 01/15/2012 7:04:14 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: berdie

Opponents counter the law disenfranchises groups of people who likely don’t have identification, such as the poor, minorities and the disabled.

So exactly how do the above people conduct financial business. Everything I do financially, requires that I show I.D. This is nothing but more RAT BS.


12 posted on 01/15/2012 7:08:04 PM PST by Mr. Wright (N\)
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To: Persevero

Why would the poor, minorities and disabled have less of a chance of having an id?

It is in the Voter ID law that anyone who comes in to the DMV and says they can’t afford an ID, it will be provided to them paid by the “state” i.e. taxpayers of the state.

So, lack of money or disenfranchment is a moot point. The dems are just afraid they won’t be able to cheat their way through the elections.

Unfortunately, the WI Voter ID law will not be in effect yet for the Governor and senator recalls coming up soon.


13 posted on 01/15/2012 7:09:12 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (KEEP YOUR LEGISLATORS ON SPEED DIAL AND TELL THEM TO GROW SOME)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Dane County-especially Madison-Is Berkeley II.


14 posted on 01/15/2012 7:11:05 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (KEEP YOUR LEGISLATORS ON SPEED DIAL AND TELL THEM TO GROW SOME)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
All of these suits are filed in Dane County ... is it a simpering bed of liberal scum?

Due to the Univ. Wisc., which is the real reason for the lawsuit. Requiring ID with address prevents students from voting multiple times (once on campus, again where they live off-campus, and then again, absentee, from their home location).

15 posted on 01/15/2012 7:17:49 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Opponents counter the law disenfranchises groups of people who likely don't have identification, such as the poor, minorities and the disabled.

So, how do they get their welfare and disability checks? they have no verifiable identity? What a fraud. The state should ask the judge to order the local police to bring in ten random minorities and disabled citizens. then they should be asked to show their Id's. Even illegals have them.

16 posted on 01/15/2012 7:27:34 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

“... is it a simpering bed of liberal scum?”

That’s pretty much a Cityof Madison/Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison campus phenom. Dane is a large county, with a great many sensible conservatives. The city, too, cannot fairly be tagged a left wing cesspool, on the whole. But its liberal kookism is very active; not without cause is Madison dubbed Berkely of the Midwest.
I (a Univ. of Wis alum) have lived in and near Madison for some years, off and on, with an absence of a score of years between, and have many friends and acquaintances there.


17 posted on 01/15/2012 7:43:59 PM PST by Elsiejay (in)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Prokopton; PapaBear3625

In my state we call em “The League of Women Vultures”. A friend of mine (an arch-Conservative) joined just to harrass them, and enjoys just being a monkey-wrench in the group.


18 posted on 01/15/2012 7:56:36 PM PST by holyscroller ( Without God, America is one nation under)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
the state constitution bars only children, felons and the mentally incompetent from voting and the Legislature improperly prohibited a new class of people — namely, those without IDs non-residents, illegal aliens, and dead people.

(Fixed.) Darn law disenfranchises half the Democratic base.

19 posted on 01/15/2012 7:57:20 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: afraidfortherepublic

......................The group argues the state constitution bars only children, felons and the mentally incompetent from voting .........................

Questions:

1. Without ID how do you determine the age of “children??”

2. Without ID how do you determine who is a “felon”??

3. Without ID how do you determine who is “mentally
incompetent” to vote??

In short, If someone shows up at a polling place, who determines if that person is allowed to vote???


20 posted on 01/15/2012 8:12:47 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

At least the law has been changed, so many suits can be filed in the county of origin. It forced the Government Accountability Board to make some effort to ensure the recall signatures were legit once a suit was filed in Waukesha county.


21 posted on 01/15/2012 8:17:59 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Prokopton

The “League” has always been a pinko left-wing group—the name is just a front to make the uninformed drones think they are a civic-minded bunch.


22 posted on 01/15/2012 8:55:36 PM PST by pankot
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Opponents counter the law disenfranchises groups of people who likely don't have identification, such as the poor, minorities and the disabled illegal aliens, crooks, and dead people.

There, fixed it.

23 posted on 01/15/2012 9:00:43 PM PST by Huntress ("Politicians exploit economic illiteracy." --Walter Williams)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
All of these suits are filed in Dane County ... is it a simpering bed of liberal scum?

In a word, yes.

24 posted on 01/15/2012 10:13:16 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Christians, time to pray and fast that Wisconsin does the right thing as it is likely to have far reaching effects.

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

25 posted on 01/15/2012 10:27:13 PM PST by Bellflower
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Ok Let me get this straight, you need a valid I.D. to Buy:

1. Cigarettes
2. Liquor
3. Cold medicine containing Pseudoephindrine
4. Spray Paint
5. Model Glue

But not to vote for someone who’s will be voting and representing you in matters of:

1. Taxation
2. Regulation
3. Judgeships
4. Heads of extremely important Government agencies.
5. etc.

Correct? So what’s the more important thing to need a valid I.D. for?


26 posted on 01/16/2012 3:32:23 AM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Identification is required to ascertain whether the potential voter is a minor, a felon or an incompetent.


27 posted on 01/16/2012 3:47:41 AM PST by monocle
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Identification is required to ascertain whether the potential voter is a minor, a felon or an incompetent.


28 posted on 01/16/2012 3:49:57 AM PST by monocle
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To: monocle
Still, Indiana already won the case several years back at the US Supreme Court.

Demanding presentatin of a photo ID is not unconstitutional.

What this LWV cr*p is called is "political street theatre". It hasno purpose beyond making noise that rivets your attention and brings the black robed Fascist princes back into the picture.

The LWV should pay for all the costs for both sides and for the taxpayers.

29 posted on 01/17/2012 7:50:31 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: afraidfortherepublic

you can not file bankruptcy unless you have a government issued photo ID.

no id no discharge of debt, no case. the end.


30 posted on 01/17/2012 8:05:12 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: The Working Man

the FEDERAL bankruptcy court REQUIRES petitioners appear at the first meeting of creditors with a GOVERNMENT ISSUED PHOTO ID in order to prove identity.

This is to prevent bankruptcy fraud via identity.

This is government action, court rules.


31 posted on 01/17/2012 8:32:57 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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