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Ruling on ethnic students program splits Arizona community
Fox News ^ | 1/14/2012

Posted on 01/15/2012 6:17:17 PM PST by Altura Ct.

Years ago, many urban school districts around the country created ethnic studies programs in an effort to help minority students succeed in the classroom and learn about their heritage.

The Tucson Unified School District in Arizona was no exception, considering about 61 percent of the student population there is Hispanic.

The courses first started being offered a little more than ten years ago but top education officials in the state say the program has spiraled out of control in recent years because of failed oversight.

Now the issue has a community divided.

John Huppenthal, Arizona’s Superintendent of Public Instruction, says somehow the district's "Mexican-American Studies Program" went rogue because the curriculum, lesson plans and textbooks stopped being approved by the school board at some point.

The state's top school chief says that makes it in violation of state law because all materials being taught in Arizona classrooms must get the local board's seal of approval. In fact, his office launched an investigation that found that erroneous facts were being taught to the students and the classes promoted "racial resentment."

"We have no problem with a history class talking about historical injustices. It becomes problematic though when you take every historic event and you interpret it in racial terms, in a radical context and you use that to inflame a low income Hispanic minority against a white Caucasian majority. Then you're not talking about injustice. You're not talking about how each of us has individual rights and responsibilities for a better future. Now you're talking about getting even," Huppenthol told Fox News.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aclu; laraza

1 posted on 01/15/2012 6:17:20 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.
Years ago, many urban school districts around the country created ethnic studies programs in an effort to help minority students succeed in the classroom

translation... EASY A!!! and $10 bucks says many of them got an F anyway

2 posted on 01/15/2012 6:36:28 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Altura Ct.
"Now you're talking about getting even"

And worse than that, it's ultimately self-defeating. In the attempt to "get even with Whitey", the left's pet cause of racial disharmony ends up setting back the cause of the groups they proclaim to help. Hispanics ought to take a gander at what the left did to the Black community. Is that the course they want to follow ?

3 posted on 01/15/2012 6:43:54 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: Chode

and if they booted out all the Illegals in the class, there would probably only be one or two kids left to indoctrinate.


4 posted on 01/15/2012 7:39:52 PM PST by holyscroller ( Without God, America is one nation under)
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To: Altura Ct.
"It becomes problematic though when you take every historic event and you interpret it in racial terms, in a radical context and you use that to inflame a low income Hispanic minority against a white Caucasian majority."

Just figured that out now?


5 posted on 01/15/2012 7:43:56 PM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: holyscroller
pretty much...
6 posted on 01/15/2012 7:44:26 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You could measure hispanic on white violent crime at the age where students were introduced to the tan with the Klan club and get an idea of how much blood these freaks have spilt. I bet it’s a lot.


7 posted on 01/15/2012 7:47:55 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Altura Ct.

It is cultural Marxism. Always was—to destroy all unity and the melting pot...it was designed to destroy America from within. Truth is not taught—only Marxist lies. PC is cultural marxism-—multiculturalism teaches lies-—that all cultures are equal....

No, some are a LOT better. AND those reasons that some are better -—HAVE to be taught. We take the good from each culture-—but not the evil, dysfunction things, which drove the people to our shores. If other governments weren’t so pathetic and corrupt and evil, there wouldn’t be so many migrants over here.

Dewey was a socialist and destroyed the Truth-—and put in moral relativism—where all cultures are the same....etc....no right and wrong. No excellence.
Destroy agency in all people....so that the state can take over all aspects of life.


8 posted on 01/15/2012 8:07:19 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Turning a hispanic minority against a caucasian majority? Yet the school district is 61% hispanic? Seems to me some people need to go back to math class themselves. And I think they might just outnumber us on a whole not just in one school district.

AND why oh why are people in this country trying to turn these Mexicans against us? Do they have self-hatred? Or are they all hispanic too???


9 posted on 01/15/2012 10:12:02 PM PST by kelly4c
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To: kelly4c

The majority of it is stupidity and a belief that someone will come along and save them from themselves and enable them to end up continuing this. No matter how bad things get, there is this belief that someone will come along, make all the hard decisions, and then end up enabling them to avoid the unpleasant. This is why I sometimes think that it’s best that the US crash, so that way these types finally grow up and stop forcing us to live in their dream world.


10 posted on 01/15/2012 10:16:36 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The Democratic party has always been about slavery, whether it be subjugation to them as private parties or public parties.

They did not put the black community on the doll and start teaching their kids entitlement rather then hard work and earning your place in the world to help them. They did this to create a depended class.

A class of men who would be incline to vote for money taken from “the minority” almost regardless of whatever else they did. Something I call a vote slave, A slave because their vote is not really an expression of their true thoughts & believes but rather their addiction, and hate.

The democrats have put great effort into doing the exact same thing to Hispanics.


11 posted on 01/16/2012 12:27:51 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: Niuhuru

I kind of agree with you, we the host are forced to toly as slaves to their Goverment. This is why there was a requirement that governments have the consent of the Governed.

A requirement completely abolished by Abraham Lincoln in his war of conquest, leaving is where we are today under the yoke of a “unconditional union” with parasitic & oppressive thieves.

Compete collapse does seem preferable to continued bondage at times. At least then maybe our children will have a chance at real freedom & self-determination as our forefathers had.


12 posted on 01/16/2012 12:33:43 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

“A requirement completely abolished by Abraham Lincoln in his war of conquest, leaving is where we are today under the yoke of a “unconditional union” with parasitic & oppressive thieves.”

Lincoln was a fool to end up pulling what he did on the South. All the South wanted was to run thier own affairs without being pestered by so many people who just wanted to walk in and tell the South how to run their own lives and states and instead of trying to coax the South back through conciliation and such, he ended up almost determined to pick a fight against the South. I might get flamed for this, but if those idiots had let hte South end slavery on their own terms, then I am sure that we wouldn’t have the mess we do now. It’s not like the system wasn’t changing, with slaves permitted to learn new skills and many were buying their freedom and the ones that weren’t were usually not the most trustworthy of ones.

There was never any easing into freedom and now look at our lives. I hope Lincoln is happy wiht this turn of events and while he kept the union together, he went about it the wrong way.


13 posted on 01/17/2012 7:09:52 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

Someone from the “virtuous” North will surely flame you, so get out your fire extinguisher.

Thing is, you have a point. Lincoln became a virtual tyrant in his pursuit of “preserving the Union”.

What we have now (the Mess) is a result of good intentions (where have I heard that term before?) . . .

Hussein Obama, the current President, most surely has “good intentions”, but only for “his people”. Like Lincoln, he has become a tyrant in that pursuit.


14 posted on 01/17/2012 7:33:41 PM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Twinkie

Lincoln could have preserved the union and making it a point to visit the South, see the good and the bad, and see how things were being run for himself. I am beginning to wonder if in fact he was the first president to never set foot outside the capital for the entire duration of his presidency. If he was so in fact determined, he should have been out there making it a point to visit the South, see all the issues and view first hand not just slavery or the issue of State’s rights, but to ensure that the Southerners and the South saw him not as some acid leader or tyrant, but as a man who was trying his best to preserve the unity of this nation.

A large part of the seccession issue is surely that the Southland felt the North wasn’t even trying to see the good as well as the bad about the South and it was possibly the first time that the different mentalities of the country became so polarized through ignorance of the realities of the lifestyle and situation in the South.


15 posted on 01/17/2012 7:45:54 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

Not to defend Lincoln but he did step out of Washington quite a few times during his presidency. One famous example was to make the Gettysburg address.

As for the north in General their problem starts with the blind passion of the abolitionist moral crusade against slavery.

the 15th president all but pointed this out in his last year in office. The northern crusaders would not leave the south well enough alone. They saw slavery as an unmitigated evil that had to be ended in every state now.

Every-state because they felt theses united States were one big homogenous country in which if anyone did anything wrong they were somehow liable. But perhaps mostly because of a clause in the original constitution which obligated them to return escaped slaves and the repressive, unconstitutional, & intrusive federal laws & acts to enforce that clause.

The irony in the latter is had they simply let the south exercise their natural right to leave they would have been freed from that obligation entirely. But the former notion combined with blind “nationalism” and the idea peddled by Lincoln that the union could not exist unless it was by the sword.(An idea he used to justify his numerous power grabs) conspired to drive the north to go to war not only upon the south but intrinsically the very idea at the foundation of any free republic, of consent of the Goverment.

Once again in their mind the short term ends justified the means. As such the federation of theses united States was transformed by Lincoln into the empire entitled “the United State”.

This is where democracy has always failed. It was where Our founders crafted a republic to help protect us from that failing. but the ideas of the time rendered that republic mute “By necessity” as Lincoln put it to preserve/create the empire Lincoln defined as the republic.

With no force nether political nor military both clear headed & strong enough to stop him he won and our republic fell into his empire.


16 posted on 01/18/2012 7:52:08 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

“As for the north in General their problem starts with the blind passion of the abolitionist moral crusade against slavery.

the 15th president all but pointed this out in his last year in office. The northern crusaders would not leave the south well enough alone. They saw slavery as an unmitigated evil that had to be ended in every state now.”

A fine example of a bunch of people with too much time on their hands to sit around and make trouble. They accepted “Uncle Tom’s Cabin” as gospel when in fact it was a gross exaggeration. Hundreds of thousands dead because a bunch of idle housewives got it into their heads to push a war being started. It was these selfsame housewife types that decided on the bright idea of Prohibition and then ended up creating and empowering the Mafia. I honestly think these bored modern housewives are the ones who started the Ritalin culture.


17 posted on 01/18/2012 9:45:17 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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