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Forget women and children first. Burly crew men led the race for the lifeboats (Wages of Feminism)
UK Daily Mail ^ | January 16, 2012 | Nick Fagge, Emily Andrews, John Stevens

Posted on 01/16/2012 9:06:35 AM PST by C19fan

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To: buwaya
"...most couldn’t swim the 200-odd yards of COLD water."

Point taken, but HOW cold is it? I realize it's winter, but it's the Mediterranean, not the North Atlantic. I wonder how much difference there is?

41 posted on 01/16/2012 9:53:19 AM PST by Mich Patriot (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. Ronald Reagan)
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To: rbg81

The Captain and Mate have been arrested and, I believe, charge with manslaughter. Both abandoned ship leaving passengers and crew behind. This is all over the sailing and maritime boards.


42 posted on 01/16/2012 9:56:04 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

On the Central America (see Ship of Gold) the male passengers wouldn’t even let the women bail at first.


43 posted on 01/16/2012 9:56:32 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: C19fan

Lawyers are going to make a ton of money on this disaster.

Costa will be out of business shortly.


44 posted on 01/16/2012 9:57:57 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: thackney
Capt[a]in left the ship early in the evacuation...


45 posted on 01/16/2012 9:57:58 AM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
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To: All

The ship had multiple waterproof compartments breached. Possibly/probably more than would allow it to continue afloat. The captain (probably crew) would have one choice, ground the ship to prevent sinking.

the ship was grounded, with people on board having no idea where they were or close to shore or what was going on. All the while the ship was tilting.

Also remember lifeboats are also those inflating types. Those barrels on the side launch out and inflate into boats.

once the ship “grounded” those that realized the ship was not moving any more could sit and wait. IF you could figure this out.

In the meantime the crew, probably has a few unreported dead, and passengers are limited in their recourses. There is a ONE YEAR statute of limitations, no right to jury trial b/c of the ticket waiver, probably a binding arbitration clause, AND the crew has to have their case in their home treaty nations.

Costa cruise line is always suspect even if it is a subdivision of carnival.


46 posted on 01/16/2012 9:59:12 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
then again the titanic had that rule and as a result people died with empty lifeboats floating in the ocean.

The reason lifeboats left empty was because the ship sank so slowly and in such gentle seas that passengers were extremely reluctant to leave the apparently safe ship for the tiny life boat. The ship had been billed as unsinkable and she almost was. If five water tight compartments had been breached she would have made New York, or at least Halifax. In the event, the iceberg breached six.

47 posted on 01/16/2012 10:00:43 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Mich Patriot

Some passengers braved the water, with a temperature of about 57 degrees, and swam to safety. Others had no choice, as they fell into the chilly water. Nighttime temperatures on Giglio have recently dipped below freezing.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/16/world/europe/italy-ship-scene/?hpt=wo_c1


48 posted on 01/16/2012 10:01:39 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

If they had hit the iceberg head on, the ship would have stayed afloat.


49 posted on 01/16/2012 10:02:22 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Tax-chick
... but having done so, couldn’t people swim?

Many probably could swim -- given the right conditions, attire, and preparedness. Bobbing in the water, at night while dressed for dinner, I'm not sure.

I did the full clothing swim test at USAFA years ago. I would not want to try it now.

50 posted on 01/16/2012 10:02:55 AM PST by ken in texas
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To: C19fan

Modern feminism dictates that women should be treated like men when it is convenient for them to be treated like men but treated like women when it is convenient for them to be treated like women.

Frankly, I had more respect for the original feminists who only wanted to be treated like men.


51 posted on 01/16/2012 10:03:39 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Pessimist

Think of being in bed at night and your bedroom gets turned on its side. You now have to climb up a 16’ wall to get to the door to the hallway.

Now imagine if you are 75 years old and trying to do it.

Imagine you also have received injuries during the collision.

Also, the lights may be out.

Get the picture.


52 posted on 01/16/2012 10:04:23 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: C19fan

This has NOTHING to do with gender. It’s about caring for your fellow human beings. Common decency.

But hey, we live in a every person for themselves society.

Another Italian ship had the same crew problem years ago. Maybe it’s ITALY?


53 posted on 01/16/2012 10:08:14 AM PST by marty60
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To: C19fan; a fool in paradise

Evidently, the captain previously accepted a substantial payment from a Hollywood studio eager to capitalize on a disaster (any disaster) with an entertainment product to rival the success of the smash hit of the entertainment product TITANIC. The production of the entertainment product is ready to go into production any day, reports Variety, with the title song already written, recorded and titled “My Heart Will Continue”.


54 posted on 01/16/2012 10:09:52 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: woodbutcher1963

The lights went out first. It was the first sign most passengers had of anything being wrong.

First the passengers were told it was an electrical problem. While a true statement, it is like telling someone they lost their shoe after their leg was ripped off.


55 posted on 01/16/2012 10:10:27 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Fiji Hill

I think the editor at the Daily Mail might be a sexist chauvinist pig. I mean, how many pictures of dancer Rose Metcalf do they need?


56 posted on 01/16/2012 10:10:49 AM PST by Krankor (Her voice was soft and cool. Her eyes were clear and bright. But she's not there.)
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To: C19fan

what’s the problem? isn’t this what the left has been pushing for? women treated the same as men?

people need to live with the ‘change’ for them to truly understand the problems with it

which is why we’ll have another round of 0bama (or hillary if 0bama doesn’t make the ticket)


57 posted on 01/16/2012 10:11:04 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: JoeDetweiler
Here is a better one. Link to Kipling's reference
58 posted on 01/16/2012 10:11:04 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: fatnotlazy

nope, limitation of liability to the value of the ship.

treaties limiting crew damages.

ticket contracts which limit forum selection and binding arbitration.

all which have been litigated, all which have been upheld.


59 posted on 01/16/2012 10:11:43 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: thackney
First the passengers were told it was an electrical problem.

"Are you telling us everything?"

"No, we're also out of coffee."

60 posted on 01/16/2012 10:11:48 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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