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Newt grabs himself a South Carolina lifeline. Gingrich wins debate as Mitt Romney stumbles
Mail Online ^ | 17 Jan 12 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 01/17/2012 6:37:23 AM PST by xzins

Newt Gingrich's fluent, policy-rich performances in the early debates, laced with derision for the media's attempts to question the Republican candidates, propelled him to the front of the GOP pack in early December.

His command of the stage here in Myrtle Beach for the 16th (yep, there have been that many, and the next is in Charleston on Thursday) could just be the lifeline he needs to achieve the task he has set himself - overcoming Mitt Romney's clear lead in the South Carolina polls to win the state on Saturday.

Romney was under pressure over releasing his tax returns (he eventually said that he would "probably" do so in April), on why he had not objected as Massachusetts governor to felons on parole having the right to vote and he gave an awkward, fumbling response to a softball about whether he had been hunting since 2007, even mixing up moose and elk.

Gingrich, however, ... scored quite a few points against Romney and the former Speaker's fluency with policy and ability to dissect questions and make a big-picture conservative case against Obama made him the night's big winner.

There were two standing ovations for Gingrich in the hall, where 3,000 Republicans roared, cheered ...

Gingrich said that in the debate room "there was a strong sense that somebody finally just had the courage to tell the truth about how we've got to go about helping people".

"...it's clear if you look at the polls the only conservative who can beat Romney in South Carolina is Newt Gingrich... we have five days to win South Carolina. I think we will win South Cariolina."

A lot of conservatives are queasy about Romney and unconvinced that he could beat the President in November.

(Excerpt) Read more at harndenblog.dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; election; gingrich; newt; newt2012; primary; romneytruthfile; sc2012; standingo
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1 posted on 01/17/2012 6:37:28 AM PST by xzins
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To: Jim Robinson; TitansAFC; onyx; Cincinatus' Wife; P-Marlowe; wmfights; betty boop

Ping to article about Newt’s huge victory last night in debate

Consensus everywhere is huge Gingrich victory. Newt cleaned up.


2 posted on 01/17/2012 6:39:43 AM PST by xzins (Newt Gingrich Cleaned Up In Last Night's Debate! Awesome Performance!)
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To: xzins

Newt handed Juan Williams his a$$, then, proceeded to also hand him his b*lls on that one question.

I think Juan went through the whole deck of race cards last night.


3 posted on 01/17/2012 6:41:29 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: RockinRight

Newt won. I wished I liked him.


4 posted on 01/17/2012 6:43:29 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: xzins
Romney still has time to go goose hunting with the expert, John Kerry.

Romney is another dumb urb who believes shooters and hunters are all stupid hicks.

5 posted on 01/17/2012 6:44:53 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: RockinRight

And he did it without sounding mean or abrasive.....Reaganesque.


6 posted on 01/17/2012 6:45:18 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: ExtremeUnction

You don’t have to like him to vote for him. ;)


7 posted on 01/17/2012 6:46:20 AM PST by NoPrisoners ("When in the course of human events...")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Romney, knowledgeable hunter that he is, would go hunting Bullwinkle the Elk in Montana.

Rocky the Flying Squirrel would take exception.


8 posted on 01/17/2012 6:47:54 AM PST by xzins (Newt Gingrich Cleaned Up In Last Night's Debate! Awesome Performance!)
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To: xzins

I think SC goes..

Newt 29%
Willard 28%
Santorum 18%
Paul 13%
Perry 3-4%


9 posted on 01/17/2012 6:48:04 AM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: RockinRight
Newt handed Juan Williams his a$$, then, proceeded to also hand him his b*lls on that one question. I think Juan went through the whole deck of race cards last night.

Details, please!

10 posted on 01/17/2012 6:49:17 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: xzins

Newt Gingrich (as someone said in the comments section) is ‘America’s Churchill.’


11 posted on 01/17/2012 6:49:27 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: xzins

I thought it would be another snoozer. Instead, I was clapping and cheering with the audience.

Both Romney and Paul were booed last night. Mitt had the crowd at the beginning of the debate, but Newt had them in the palm of his hand from the Juan exchange forward. Mitt was left sputtering the rest of the debate. I think he was exposed for the fraud he is. He also was taken aback when the audience booed him. Heh.

It really was something to see. Even Romney-lover Dick Morris said he thinks Gingrich may win SC because of this debate performance—even over objections by Sean Hannity, who looked a little rattled that Romney did so poorly.

I guess we will soon see.


12 posted on 01/17/2012 6:50:16 AM PST by Shelayne
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To: CainConservative; P-Marlowe; onyx

The insider advantage poll was so skewed that it was almost breathless. They refused to weight by political party (although they did so for the 2008 dem party primary), so they ended up with a poll that had 10% less republicans, 10% more independents, and no justification as to why those numbers should be used.

If they did have the scientific data to justify that breakdown, then they should have stood by it and weighted the poll that way.

Amazing.

It is now impossible to tell what’s actually going on in S Carolina.

NO pollster is weighting for party. The reuters poll even had a 50/50 split between dems and reps in the republican primary.

Unconscionable, misleading, and MANIPULATED!


13 posted on 01/17/2012 6:52:47 AM PST by xzins (Newt Gingrich Cleaned Up In Last Night's Debate! Awesome Performance!)
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To: ExtremeUnction
Newt won. I wished I liked him.

We're not voting for Miss Congeniality.

14 posted on 01/17/2012 6:53:04 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: xzins

Sounded to me like Romney had a RINO stuck in his throat....


15 posted on 01/17/2012 6:54:19 AM PST by cincinnati65 (We've been taken for a ride - by Wall Street and Washington DC - Welcome to Amerika!)
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To: ExtremeUnction; xzins
Newt won. I wished I liked him.

I'm not looking for a Friend. I'm looking for a leader, someone our enemies will fear. Newt is the guy we need now. He may be a jerk, but he's our jerk.

16 posted on 01/17/2012 6:54:20 AM PST by P-Marlowe (NEWT!!! Because everyone else is just average.)
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To: xzins

I think the rowdy audience and intensity tripped up Romney. He seems to stumble outside controlled environments.


17 posted on 01/17/2012 6:54:39 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: xzins

Romney was particularly bad regarding the tax return issue.

He made himself look bad with the hum hoing around.

He can’t hide the fact he is rich, that isn’t a disqualifier.

Maybe he is embarrassed to show how very little tax he paid.

He is leaving that assumption up to us because he hasn’t shown his taxes.


18 posted on 01/17/2012 6:55:11 AM PST by dforest
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To: RockinRight
I'm coming around on the fact that Newt may be our best chance for November. He's got the fire in the belly that the other candidates (aside from maybe Ron Paul) seem to be lacking.

If you look at the recent presidential campaigns, the GOP nominees we've put up since Reagan have lacked the intensity necessary to get their voter base fired up. The Bushes, Dole and McCain - none of them ever took on the establishment in the aggressive manner that Newt is doing. All of them were "nice guys" that believed in bipartisanship and "crossing the aisle" to find common ground with the Democrats.

Ronald Reagan was the last presidential nominee we had that was not afraid to take on the liberals and the establishment media and the result was two massive landslides.

Mitt Romney will just be another milquetoast candidate that will either lose to Obama or squeak out a narrow margin of victory with no mandate. So nothing will change. Either way, the conservative cause does not get advanced.

If Newt can steamroller Mitt this Saturday night and move on to grab the nomination - and then maintain this kind of intensity and aggressiveness for the general campaign, we could be looking at the best year for Republicans since 1984 - or 1994, when Newt Gingrich himself engineered a GOP takeover of Congress.

19 posted on 01/17/2012 6:55:37 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 23 days away from outliving Marty Feldman)
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To: xzins
It's on to Florida. Newt won, but I prefer Santorum. I watched Santorum’s town hall yesterday on CPSAN. In the question period a woman stood and said she was selling her house, but the market is in the tank, so she asked what he would do to fix the market. Santorum said he could nothing. That's why I prefer Santorum. He tells people what they need to hear and not what they want to hear. Just like Newt's idea about privatizing social security. Newt's great with coming up with gadget ideas, but they always sound too much like the free lunch. I think it will come down to Romney and Newt, and either one will lose in the general. Newt is too “red meat”, and Romney will fall because he is the stereotypical wall street Republican and plays into the Obama game plan.
20 posted on 01/17/2012 6:55:42 AM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: xzins; Future Useless Eater
Poor headline. Lifeline? Hardly. Newt was rising before the debate and right on Romney's heels. The debate will put him over the top.

The ONLY way to NOT give your delegates to ROMNEY is to consolidate all conservative votes behind the LEADING NON-ROMNEY

21 posted on 01/17/2012 6:56:52 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: P-Marlowe

Newt is no jerk. He’s the real deal. He’s head and shoulders ahead of Romney, the famous flip-flopper. I don’t know what Romney will do as President. He has changed his position so much he’s scary. So he governed as a liberal in Massachusetts just because it was politically expedient. So, that tells me he has no convictions and just goes along with the majority to secure power. That’s NOT a leader; that’s a typical politician!


22 posted on 01/17/2012 6:57:08 AM PST by sgfan1212
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To: NoPrisoners

“You don’t have to like him to vote for him. ;)”

That is what I would do. LOL


23 posted on 01/17/2012 6:57:39 AM PST by dforest
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To: xzins

Newt is The Master of jawjitsu!


24 posted on 01/17/2012 7:00:16 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: xzins

Ping


25 posted on 01/17/2012 7:00:57 AM PST by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: HIDEK6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka0LMt5ciRc

I just watched it again and found myself clapping.

I feel like a dork. ;^)


26 posted on 01/17/2012 7:01:03 AM PST by Shelayne
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To: cincinnati65

LOL!

Or a moose—or was that an elk? Hahahahahaha!


27 posted on 01/17/2012 7:02:33 AM PST by Shelayne
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To: xzins

At lelast one media outlet got it right.


28 posted on 01/17/2012 7:02:56 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ExtremeUnction

There are times in a nations’ history when it finds itself in such dire straights that only a true bastard can pul it’s fat from the fire. See “Winston Churchill.”

I submit to you that Newt Gingrich is such a bastard.


29 posted on 01/17/2012 7:04:43 AM PST by Grunthor (I am a conservative, neither half of the one party represents my views.)
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To: 11th Commandment
the rowdy audience and intensity tripped up Romney. He seems to stumble outside controlled environments.

Yes, it's hard for him to perform in front of conservative Republicans

30 posted on 01/17/2012 7:05:13 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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31 posted on 01/17/2012 7:06:39 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: RockinRight
Have you read Juan's book? It sets up (as he did) many of the ideas Newt expounded on last night. Don’t think for a minute that Juan was a bit upset about it.
32 posted on 01/17/2012 7:07:28 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Shelayne

Thank you.

Love it.


33 posted on 01/17/2012 7:10:06 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: Shelayne

That was a Romney flip flop. When a hunter does not know what hes hunting he dangerous.

What am I suppose to shoot??? Yeah hes Presidential material .


34 posted on 01/17/2012 7:11:06 AM PST by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Yes, it’s hard for him to perform in front of conservative Republicans

You’ve hit the nail on the head! That’s exactly his problem. Conservatism makes him uncomfortable, he begins to stutter and tries to drive all around the question to eat up time and get back to his memorized conservative talking points.


35 posted on 01/17/2012 7:15:19 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Baseballguy

Uhh.....

That was a cow Mitt.


36 posted on 01/17/2012 7:16:02 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Servant of the Cross; P-Marlowe

I had no choice with the headline due to Free Republic policy about posting original headlines.

This is the headline used at the Mail Online.

I agree with you, though. I didn’t like the first part, but I loved the second part and lots of the write-up.

Newt so clearly won last night. Mitt so clearly lost.

And Ron Paul.....there’s something erratic about his voice and face as he talks. Pinched up, weak, whining, begging, hesitant...I can see it, but I can’t find the word to describe it.


37 posted on 01/17/2012 7:17:29 AM PST by xzins (Newt Gingrich Cleaned Up In Last Night's Debate! Awesome Performance!)
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To: xzins; All

I think it’s pretty obvious that Newt is the guy conservatives need to rally around to beat Romney.

I know he’s not as pure as a lot of people would like - he’s not as pure as *I* would like - but then again, YOUR preferred candidates aren’t as pure as I would like either, folks.

All the same, he’s the only candidate competent, aggressive, and knowledgable enough to both take the fight to Obama AND make a case for conservative policies.

Neither Perry nor Santorum have the competence to get the job done.


38 posted on 01/17/2012 7:18:01 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: hoosiermama

You mean Juan supporting Newt’s ideas? Or Juan supporting the race card crap he threw at Newt?


39 posted on 01/17/2012 7:18:53 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: NoPrisoners
Which of the following to leaders in history would you vote for?

Leader one was a vegetarian, decorated war hero, drinks only an occasional beer, does not smoke and has never had an extra martial affair and is physically fit.

Leader two has been voted out of office twice, sleeps until noon, a notorious womanizer as a young man,a mediocre student, alcoholic and obese.

Answer: I would suggest you vote for Leader two. He is Winston Churchill. Leader one is Adolf Hitler.

The point is Newts past transgressions in his personal life are of little importance. I can vote for Newt without any qualms.

40 posted on 01/17/2012 7:19:53 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: ExtremeUnction
Newt won. I wished I liked him.

Well, maybe it's time to start learning to?

42 posted on 01/17/2012 7:20:42 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I wish one of them would talk about 2nd amendment rights other than hunting. That’s their big ploy now, guns are only for hunters.

Notice they didn’t go to Perry on the gun issue.


43 posted on 01/17/2012 7:21:49 AM PST by Kenny
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To: HIDEK6

“Details, please”

...go to 9:45 http://www.youtube.com/user/GOPDebates?feature=watch#p/a/u/2/xfleONM29vE


44 posted on 01/17/2012 7:22:46 AM PST by albie
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To: cpdiii
The point is Newts past transgressions in his personal life are of little importance. I can vote for Newt without any qualms.

Well, they are important - I wouldn't vote for Newt to become the new pastor of my church.

But for the Presidency, well, I think the expectation that anyone in politics long enough to have a credible shot at the Presidency is going to have a pearly white past is asking a bit too much.

45 posted on 01/17/2012 7:23:21 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: xzins

If Newt was reliably like this every day he would be the man.

Trouble is, he slips off the track and wanders off to the left at distressingly frequent intervals.


46 posted on 01/17/2012 7:24:01 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: xzins; All
Another GREAT read about Newt's BIG WIN.

Lots of good excerpts to use to tweet & post article everywhere.

~~”A Mitt debate performance like last night with Obama, gives Obama another 4”. Mitt showed what a weak candidate he is.

http://worldviewtonight.wordpress.com/2012/01/17/the-fox-news-gop-south-carolina-post-debate-review/

#withNewt

47 posted on 01/17/2012 7:25:50 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: NoPrisoners
Which of the following to leaders in history would you vote for?

Leader one was a vegetarian, decorated war hero, drinks only an occasional beer, does not smoke and has never had an extra martial affair and is physically fit.

Leader two has been voted out of office twice, sleeps until noon, a notorious womanizer as a young man,a mediocre student, alcoholic and obese.

Answer: I would suggest you vote for Leader two. He is Winston Churchill. Leader one is Adolf Hitler.

The point is Newts past transgressions in his personal life are of little importance. I can vote for Newt without any qualms.

48 posted on 01/17/2012 7:27:30 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: xzins
Yes. Apologies if my headline comment appeared directed at you.

I completely agree with your comments regarding LRon. I am biased, since I think he's a loon anyway, but last night he was especially creepy (looks, laughs (hehehe), facial expressions, etc.), as you described. How on earth he gets double digits in South Carolina (?!) I will never know.

49 posted on 01/17/2012 7:28:42 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: xzins
"somebody finally just had the courage to tell the truth about how we've got to go about helping people"

THAT is what the Tea Party is all about.......now, stick with this theme and win the Nomination so we have the FACTS on the table.

50 posted on 01/17/2012 7:29:01 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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