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Take it from Allen West on Marine urination flap: ‘War is hell’
BIZPACReview.com ^ | 1/17/2012 | Alan Bergstein

Posted on 01/17/2012 9:37:41 AM PST by SmileRight

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When will this administration stop apologizing for this country?
1 posted on 01/17/2012 9:37:50 AM PST by SmileRight
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To: SmileRight
Q: Ann, (Barnhardt) What do you think of the Marines who peed on the dead Taliban?

A: I have little sympathy for men who live their lives wiping their anuses with their bare hands after bowel movements, and who view as the pinnacle of human pleasure inserting their genitals and depositing their semen into the feces-laden rectums of boys and other men, who suddenly get squeamish about dead bodies being sprinkled with a bit of urine - which is sterile by the way. Those dead Taliban were probably the cleanest they had ever been in their adult lives after being showered with the righteous tinkles of those Marines. Ooh-rah. That is all. Carry on.

2 posted on 01/17/2012 9:40:21 AM PST by notaliberal
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To: SmileRight
War is hell, yes. But Marines are Marines.

Marine Corps Character

Marines recruit America's best: young men and women who have strong values, the determination to rise to any challenge, and a sense of service. Then we build on that foundation to create Marine character that serves our nation, and your son or daughter, for life.

You will be able to see Marine character in your son or daughter immediately after Recruit Training or Officer Candidates School. He or she will have learned teamwork, responsibility, determination and discipline. They will be poised, respectful and proud of their accomplishments.

After your Marine's first billet or deployment, you will see his maturity, perspective and leadership continue to develop. Your Marine will know what it means to pledge himself to a greater purpose.

These qualities will not only bring pride to your family now, but will enable your Marine to better lead his or her own family, community and work colleagues in the future. For the rest of your Marine's life, he or she will be the man or woman you raised them to be: a self-sufficient, capable, determined American.

Who the hell recruited and trained these "Marines," I wonder?

3 posted on 01/17/2012 9:47:40 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: SmileRight

Not only IS war hell, it SHOULD BE hell!
The fatuous notion that war can be fought with “sugical precision” and limited collateral damage only increases the liklihood that war will be waged. Would the Taliban et.al. be so eager to take on American troops if they knew the cost would be considerably more than wet unifoms?


4 posted on 01/17/2012 9:53:09 AM PST by PA BOOKENDS
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To: SmileRight

Call me warped and morally bankrupt but isn’t there Article 15 non judicial proceedings in the military for invasion of privacy for videoing personnel relieving themselves?


5 posted on 01/17/2012 9:55:03 AM PST by chuckee
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To: SmileRight

But a friggin’ MUZZIE soldier shoots up Ft. Hood and our muzzie president tells us not to come to any conclusions.


6 posted on 01/17/2012 9:57:30 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Call me warped and morally bankrupt but isn’t there Article 15 non judicial proceedings in the military for invasion of privacy for videoing personnel relieving themselves?

There is also the slightly more significant matter of the First Geneva Convention, which requires enemy dead be "honourably interred" according to the rites of their religion (Article 17), as well as post-engagement search for enemy dead to prevent their despoilment (Article 15).

7 posted on 01/17/2012 10:06:06 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: SmileRight

In San Francisco, they pay people to do this. The Marines did it without charge. They should be receiving the humanitarian medal.


8 posted on 01/17/2012 10:06:48 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SmileRight

President Obama’s Secretary of State Hillary Clinton cheered and laughed when a POW named Gaddaffi was murdered after capture and his corpse was defiled by militant Islamists.

This administration is not about prosecuting war crimes or respecting the dignity of all people, even our enemy. They are about trashing this nation and supporting Islamists.


9 posted on 01/17/2012 10:07:15 AM PST by a fool in paradise (SecofState Clinton applauded when a POW named Gaddaffi was murdered in captivity & his body defiled.)
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To: SmileRight

My husband asked one of our employees (National Guard) who just returned from 3 deployments to Iraq & Afghanistan about this incident. John just said something to the effect that, “You won’t believe what the Marines are asked to do day after day in the field. They are under incredible pressure constantly. Don’t judge.”

Our guy is Army, so for him to be so respectful of the Marines says something to me.


10 posted on 01/17/2012 10:11:43 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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Several things to consider as people gear up outrage.

The press (Daily Mirror I think) ran staged photos of a British soldier urinating on a supposed Iraqi POW. The whole thing was a staged hoax by a traitor using equipment that was not even deployed.

Additionally, in the Abu Ghraib photo case, at least one of the participants was a homosexual (a lesbian who posed for photos with a dead body giving a thumbs up sign and a shiny smile). Recall another homosexual who sabotaged the US military’s efforts by stealing tens of thousands of documents with the stated reason that he disliked the military’s stance on homosexuality.

Some ask “who would throw away a career this way”? Ask Sgt. Akbar who threw a grenade into an officer's tent in Iraq. Ask the guy who shot up the military base in America.

Bad people do bad things disguised as the good guys.

And my tagline points out the administration's hypocrisy

11 posted on 01/17/2012 10:12:27 AM PST by a fool in paradise (SecofState Clinton applauded when a POW named Gaddaffi was murdered in captivity & his body defiled.)
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To: mvpel

The taliban are not combatants under the Geneva Accords nor do they recognize them, unless it benefits their propaganda cause. Article 17 does not apply to them so piss on them, both figuratively and literally.


12 posted on 01/17/2012 10:14:38 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SmileRight
"Which is more inhumane, killing someone or urinating on him?"

To me, that's kind of like asking which is more justifiable, killing an armed robber in the commission of a crime, or dropping your pants and taking a dump on his grave the following week? That said, I'd care more if these combatants were part of a proper enemy army who were just doing their duty to their country, rather than the filthy band of criminals, fanatics and bandits that the Taliban are....

13 posted on 01/17/2012 10:25:17 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: SmileRight

I know what those Marines were thinking, as I once was one. That video was intended for the Taliban to see, and those Marines’ intention was to deeply offend their enemy and dare them to do anything about it. In other words, to piss their enemy off and make them do something stupid.

But, these Marines failed to recognize who their enemy really is, and they’re about to find out. By the time the politically correct folks now running this country get through punishing them, they’ll wish they had joined hands with the Taliban and sang “Kum-Ba-Ya” with them instead of killing them...and pissing on them.

Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrat Party has sided with the enemy.


14 posted on 01/17/2012 10:31:09 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: RJS1950
Why not piss on 237 years worth of Marine Corps traditions and values too, while they're pissing all over the Geneva Conventions with which every US soldier and sailor is ordered to comply?

Honor guides Marines to exemplify the ultimate in ethical and moral behavior; to never lie cheat or steal; to abide by an uncompromising code of integrity; respect human dignity; and respect others. The quality of maturity, dedication, trust and dependability commit Marines to act responsibly; to be accountable for their actions; to fulfill their obligations; and to hold others accountable for their actions.

Does the fact that the Taliban are not lawful combatants under Geneva mean that wounded Taliban can have their fingernails pulled out by US Marines, or female enemy combatants can be gang-raped by US Marines, since you're suggesting that Article 12 doesn't apply to them?

I'm not concerned with the damp dead Taliban here, I'm concerned with the discredit and dishonor that these men have brought upon the Brotherhood of Marines and the generations upon generations of Marines who preceded them.

They need to stand in front of R. Lee Ermey and answer the question, "WHERE IS YOUR HONOR, MAGGOTS???"

15 posted on 01/17/2012 10:38:54 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: DJ Taylor

If you were once a Marine, then you know that it’s possible to kill, crush, and destroy your enemy while still retaining your own HONOR, right?


16 posted on 01/17/2012 10:42:16 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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I will NOT jump on the artificial bandwagon of condemnation of these Marines. After 11 years of military engagement in Afghanistan, and almost 9 years in Iraq, where our men and women of the U.S. Armed Forces have been asked to endure things most Americans only can vaguely imagine, I will not join in on the media feeding frenzy. When our media mildly yawned at the beheading of Nick Berg and others (truly, they had their heads hacked off with a less than sharp blade), as well as ho-humed the torure, burning, and displaying of the burnt bodies of those contractors, while feigning indignation and outrage from Abu Graib, and now this? No thanks. At worse these Marines should only receive article 15’s.


17 posted on 01/17/2012 10:47:26 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently on his way home from Afghanistan!)
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To: mvpel
I'm concerned with the discredit and dishonor that these men have brought upon the Brotherhood of Marines and the generations upon generations of Marines who preceded them.
Those Marines did nothing that their predecessors haven't done before them - and a lot worse.
Believe me I know first hand ... I'm the son of a WWII Marine and a former Marine myself who fought in VN.
Pull up your skirt and take your ranting-raving and phoney "concern" over to DU.
18 posted on 01/17/2012 10:50:19 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SoldierDad
What do the actions of a bunch of third-world Islamist savages or the maggots in the mass media have to do with 237 years of US Marine Corps tradition, values, and honor?

Marine Corps Values

The three Corps Values: honor, courage, commitment. They make up the bedrock of the character of each individual Marine. They are the foundation of his Corps. These three values, handed down from generation to generation, have made U.S. Marines the Warrior Elite. The U.S. Marine Corps: the most respected and revered fighting force on earth.

19 posted on 01/17/2012 10:51:49 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: oh8eleven
Those Marines did nothing that their predecessors haven't done before them - and a lot worse.

So you're basically telling me that this "honor" and "character" and "warrior elite" business is just a bunch of bullsh!t that they feed us civilians in order to lure us into the recruiting offices?

Thanks for the clarification.

20 posted on 01/17/2012 10:56:37 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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