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Dobson decried Callista Gingrich as 'eight-year mistress' at conservative confab
Politico ^ | 1-17-12 | Haberson

Posted on 01/17/2012 2:50:57 PM PST by VinL

At the now-controversial meeting of evangelicals at a Texas ranch, influential evangelical leader James Dobson made a strong pitch for Rick Santorum's wife — and noted that Callista Gingrich was her husband's "mistress for eight years," questioning whether that's what people want in a first lady, three sources told POLITICO.

The moment left several attendees at the confab at the Pressler ranch stunned, according to the sources.

It came on Saturday, before the group of about 150 conservatives voted on a candidate they wanted to back. On the third round of balloting, the vote went to Santorum, but Gingrich backers and other attendees have argued that the voting was done unfairly, and in a way that seemed to benefit the former Pennsylvania senator.

The meeting was initially described as an event to try to unite behind a single candidate to thwart Mitt Romney, but his representatives also ended up speaking there, and despite the third round of balloting — which took place after some Gingrich backers left, thinking the meeting had ended — broad consensus was never reached, according to multiple attendees.

"Dobson first talked about how great Santorum is," recalled one source, who had first-hand knowledge of Dobson's comment. "[He said,] 'I want to tell you that I've gotten to know Karen [Santorum] and she is just lovely. She set aside two professional careers to raise these seven children. She would make a fabulous first lady role model. And Newt Gingrich's wife, she was a mistress for eight years."

Another source confirmed the account, and said Dobson concluded the sentiment about Callista Gingrich with, "Who do you want as your first lady?"

"It was like a chill [set into] the room," said one source. Several people were offended by the comment, said another source, adding that it was noted among some participants that Callista Gingrich had only been married once.


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To: Siena Dreaming

You show no evidence for Gingrich having sex with Calista while married, yet you ignore a report of the Karen Santorum having an affair with a married abortion doctory.

Hypocrisy


201 posted on 01/17/2012 5:41:25 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Siena Dreaming
Never said he was a pastor. But he is a christian leader, having worked in christian ministry and followed by millions of church-going christians. Suprised you didn't know that.

I know that.

I lived in Colorado for over forty years.

Dobson moved his corporation from
California to Colorado Springs.

If a politician did not kiss his ring,
Dobson would savage him.

Members of FoF would surreptitiously
write poison pen letters to local
newspapers savaging the politician.

Only Republicans were savaged.

The net result was that Dobson FoF
was working to elect Demonsrats.

Draw your own conclusions as to whom
Dobson is working.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
202 posted on 01/17/2012 5:45:26 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: rbmillerjr
Gingrich himself has repented of his behavior with Callista. His words:

""There were times when I was praying and when I felt I was doing things that were wrong. But I was still doing them," Gingrich said during the interview. "I look back on those as periods of weakness and periods that I'm not only not proud of, but I would deeply urge my children and grandchildren not to follow in my footsteps."

The affair has been written about many, many times and neither one has denied it. There's no reason to think their affair did not happen.

Meanwhile there is one story about Karen Santorum in the Daily Mail and we're supposed to immediately believe it hook, line and sinker?

203 posted on 01/17/2012 5:47:03 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Sparky21555

PFLR


204 posted on 01/17/2012 5:47:28 PM PST by Sparky21555
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To: donna
If you people have no standards of behavior then what good are you and what good can you ever do in this world?

"You people?" What the heck does that mean? "No standards of behavior?" Again, what does that mean? "Infidelity supporters and porn lovers"? You got all that from my comment on the very sanctimonious Dobson who gets upset at the sight of some cartoon characters?

I don't need some tool like Dobson to lead me anywhere or to teach me anything. Especially someone like Dobson who lives the good life while taking advantage of the messed up nonprofit corporation laws in the US. But if you have some use for him or the Joel Osteen types more power to you.

I'm not looking for a priest or preacher as president. I'm looking for someone that follows the US Constitution. Someone that will stop this monster of a mess this country is in. I want Obama's bell unrung. I'd be fine with any of the candidates except for Mittens handling that for me.

FR is not Disney World. This is not a site for kiddies. As far as "what good can you ever do in this world" you don't have a clue who you are talking to. I will tell you this. I have not been feminized and never will be. I'm apparently too rough around the edges for your taste. Too bad. I'd suggest that you likely do not know what real evil is. What real devoids are and what they can do. I've seen the horrors of man and I can recognize a horrible man. I don't see that in any of the candidates today. I've also seen women that have more than a bit of monster in them. I can't say that Newt has not run across these types too. I don't know him or his ex types and neither do you. Nor does Dobson but he spouts about good and evil as if he was there. You seem to be cut from the same clothe. Lots of luck with that.....

205 posted on 01/17/2012 5:48:46 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: VinL

A sin is a sin...which sin is considered the worst? I don’t go through ONE day without sinning (usually a few swear words to myself)
According to the scriptures if a man just LOOKS at a woman with lust in his heart..it is a sin.


206 posted on 01/17/2012 5:49:39 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: maine-iac7
Fine - You beleive you have the right to judge others past mistakes? now let’s hear your sanctimonious take on THIS woman?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087812/Rick-Santorums-wife-Karen-love-affair-abortion-doctor.html#ixzz1jji9aZ2t
_______________________________________

LOL, MAINE-LAC 7, you beat me to it.
You and I think alike.

Let ‘em read up on Mrs. Santorum.
Bunch of hypocrites.

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207 posted on 01/17/2012 5:50:29 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Siena Dreaming

“”There were times when I was praying and when I felt I was doing things that were wrong. But I was still doing them,” Gingrich said during the interview. “I look back on those as periods of weakness and periods that I’m not only not proud of, but I would deeply urge my children and grandchildren not to follow in my footsteps.”

Nowhere is there any admission of an affair.


208 posted on 01/17/2012 5:51:01 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Siena Dreaming

“”There were times when I was praying and when I felt I was doing things that were wrong. But I was still doing them,” Gingrich said during the interview. “I look back on those as periods of weakness and periods that I’m not only not proud of, but I would deeply urge my children and grandchildren not to follow in my footsteps.”

Nowhere is there any admission of an affair.


209 posted on 01/17/2012 5:51:20 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: rbmillerjr
So what is it Gingrich was doing wrong?

These responses were in direct responses to questions about an affair.

Divorce followed each time. What else would you call it? Get real.

210 posted on 01/17/2012 5:53:46 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: rbmillerjr

Yes he did admit it, and ironically, he admitted it to Dobson on FOX back in 2007.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258001,00.html


211 posted on 01/17/2012 5:56:18 PM PST by Allon (Since 1980, no Republican has won his party's nomination without winning in South Carolina.)
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To: Allon

You have an active imagination hypocrite.

Gingrich admitted an affair with an intern, not Calista.

But that is not the point.

You hypocrites are ignoring the story on Santorum’s wife, not to mention Dobson’s son having affairs and being divorced twice. Dobson tried to force his son as his heir at Focus...

What a hypocrite.


212 posted on 01/17/2012 5:58:54 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Allon
Next they'll be telling us JFK didn't do it because there was no camera that caught him in the act.

Sheesh.

213 posted on 01/17/2012 6:00:12 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: rzman21

Who are you to judge Dobson? He is right. What Callista did was disgraceful, particularly as a presumed “Catholic.” Newt’s marital history makes him a disastrous presidential candidate. She was complicit in his sin.


214 posted on 01/17/2012 6:00:50 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: Allon

Santorum’s wife is all over the net:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-&p=rick%20santorum%27s%20wife%20abortion%20dr&type=


215 posted on 01/17/2012 6:00:50 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: SENTINEL

We all sin.
I’ll take an imperfect Christian over an intentional CULT LEADER anyday.


Apparently, Christ felt the same way. Splinter in your own eye and all......


216 posted on 01/17/2012 6:01:08 PM PST by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

I’ve seen only one small story on it so have no idea if it’s true or not.

_______________

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-&p=rick%20santorum%27s%20wife%20abortion%20dr&type=


217 posted on 01/17/2012 6:04:14 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: isthisnickcool

You’ve just written several paragraphs of anti-Christian gibberish. Dr. Dobson is a great man. He has done a world of good for his country, as a preacher, as a psychologist teaching godly values, and fighting for the pro-life cause.


218 posted on 01/17/2012 6:05:33 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: rbmillerjr
You hypocrites are ignoring the story on Santorum’s wife

I don't think anyone's ignoring it.

We are just not as eager as you to believe the word of one abortion doctor.

Go ahead and believe it if you really want to but at this point there doesn't seem to be any other "credible" source.

219 posted on 01/17/2012 6:05:36 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: heye2monn; All

You know what I find disgraceful? All you good Christians gossiping. I wonder how God feels about that.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.


220 posted on 01/17/2012 6:06:42 PM PST by beandog (Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand)
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To: All

Dobson....Forgive 30 time rapist and murder Ted Bundy.

Yet point to Callista Gingrich.

...and ignore Karen Santorum’s adultery.

“Dobson interviewed serial killer Ted Bundy on camera the day before he was executed, in January 1989. The interview was controversial as Bundy was given an opportunity to attempt to explain his actions (the rape and murder of 30 young women). Bundy seemed to blame pornography, something he had never mentioned in hundreds of hours of police and psychological interviews. Dobson is adamantly against pornography. There is also controversy over how much input the relatives of the murder victims had as regards the interview and whether they agreed that it should happen or not. In May 1989, during an interview with John Tanner, a Republican Florida prosecutor, Dobson called for Bundy to be forgiven. The Bundy tapes gave Focus on the Family earnings of over $1 million ...Wiki


221 posted on 01/17/2012 6:06:55 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: VinL

I want proof Dobson said this.
Three unnamed witnesses?
How convenient.

Here is the NPR article.
Not a word about Dobson’s comment.
http://m.wfiu.npr.org/news/front/145247491?page=0

The Big Daddy Weaver.
Not a word about Dobson’s comment.
http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/


222 posted on 01/17/2012 6:08:00 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: patriot08
The only main source I can see is the abortion doctor and his wife.

Yet some people want to lap up the story.

I think I'll wait for a better source myself.

223 posted on 01/17/2012 6:08:51 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: rbmillerjr

Hypocrite? Oh please, Calista Gingritch is Newt’s American version of Camille Parker-Bowles.


224 posted on 01/17/2012 6:09:16 PM PST by Allon (Since 1980, no Republican has won his party's nomination without winning in South Carolina.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

post 217 ...let’s here the Karen Santorum adultery indignation...

ye...........


225 posted on 01/17/2012 6:11:37 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Siena Dreaming

In reply to my post, you then indicate:

That you have no specific definition of immorality- but whatever that definition may be- its “substandard”— Well, that illuminating. Thanks

You then indicate that you accede to your “Christian leaders” assessment of morality— well, fine– I don’t. I derive my morality from my personal relationship with God- absent intermediaries.

Then, incredibly, you argue that God’s command to refrain from judgment is superceded by an obligation to personally enforce the tenets of the Lord- e.g negative behavior. If that is your conclusion, that is your misapprehension. God tells us what we shouldn’t do, but allows that when we transgress, we have the right to redemption. Calista and Newt were in love, and it might have well been an illicit affair- but at end point, Calista and Newt married and sought redemption and forgiveness from the Lord for their past indiscretion. God forgave them– but, you and Mr Dobsom appear to wish to take on God’s role here on earth and judge all of us.

There is absolutely nothing in the public record thatI know of, that would preclude Calista from being a First Lady- the judgments by you and Dobson notwithstanding.


226 posted on 01/17/2012 6:15:09 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Ironic that Newt mentioned Andrew Jackson last night, and, like Jackson he must endure slanderous comments on his wife. Apparently Newt did so well he must be punished.

Shame on all the hypocrites. Let he without sin cast the first stone....


227 posted on 01/17/2012 6:15:39 PM PST by alamogal
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To: rbmillerjr
let’s here the Karen Santorum adultery indignation...

Got any other source besides the word of an abortion doc?

You may enjoy slander but you have zero credibility until you come up with a real story.

228 posted on 01/17/2012 6:16:59 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: katiedidit1

According to the scriptures if a man just LOOKS at a woman with lust in his heart..it is a sin.
*****************

Thit! I’m going directly to hell, not passing Go, not collecting $200.


229 posted on 01/17/2012 6:17:59 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: alamogal
Let he without sin cast the first stone....

We've already been through this one.

Why are you judging the so-called hypocrites. Are you without sin that you can be casting stones?

230 posted on 01/17/2012 6:19:11 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: rzman21

...ur preaching to the choir bro.....I don’t like these “so called preachers” that think they are holier than thou....

Sounds to me as if this Dobson has little or NO KNOWLEDGE of God’s word...if he does, he has sure perverted and twisted it into his own brand of a warped religion.


231 posted on 01/17/2012 6:19:34 PM PST by swampfox101
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To: Siena Dreaming

Let he without sin cast the first stone....
We’ve already been through this one.

Why are you judging the so-called hypocrites. Are you without sin that you can be casting stones?

**************
Whoooooopppps!


232 posted on 01/17/2012 6:22:27 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

“Calista and Newt were in love, and it might have well been an illicit affair- but at end point, Calista and Newt married and sought redemption and forgiveness from the Lord for their past indiscretion. God forgave them– but, you and Mr Dobsom appear to wish to take on God’s role here on earth and judge all of us.”

“There is absolutely nothing in the public record thatI know of, that would preclude Calista from being a First Lady- the judgments by you and Dobson notwithstanding.”

H Y P O C R I T S THEY ARE.


233 posted on 01/17/2012 6:24:59 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: All

Some are refusing to believe the stories about Mrs. Santorum, just like they refused to believe them about Cain.
It won’t matter. When the Libs get through with this, he’s done.


234 posted on 01/17/2012 6:28:38 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: VinL
Then, incredibly, you argue that God’s command to refrain from judgment is superceded by an obligation to personally enforce the tenets of the Lord- e.g negative behavior

Who's enforcing?

The whole discussion is about whether one is allowed to ever speak negatively about behavior. You claim never, yet you are judging me. What a laugh.

A christian leader who doesn't like sexual immorality. Horrors! Who has heard of such a thing?

Amazing how so many Freepers who claim to be christian are up in arms over a christian leader in the family arena who desires sexual purity in a Presidential candidate. Really quite amazing.

235 posted on 01/17/2012 6:29:39 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: VinL
Whoooooopppps!

Why whoops?

No mistake. I'm pointing out pure hypocrisy.

236 posted on 01/17/2012 6:31:30 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: swampfox101

I’m just sick of external Christianity. I don’t know Dr. Dobson, but I have increasingly come to see the brand of religion he stands for as empty and superficial.

Perhaps people like him are why Evangelical youth are fleeing in droves for liberal postmodern strands of Evangelicalism or are rejecting faith altogether.

I used to respect Dr. Dobson and defend him, and he was friends with people I have known.

There is too much emphasis on condemnation and not enough on repentance and forgiveness. I take Newt at his word barring that he is secretly skirt-chasing behind his current wife’s back.


237 posted on 01/17/2012 6:33:22 PM PST by rzman21
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To: Siena Dreaming

The whole discussion is about whether one is allowed to ever speak negatively about behavior. You claim never, yet you are judging me. What a laugh.

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No!!! Yu’re not off the hook for your un-Christian position. The discussion is NOT about speaking to negative behavior, it’s about Dobson and you saying that Calista can not be a First Lady because she is “immoral”!

That’s the discussion. That’s why you’re losing the debate! Because your position is un-Christian and indefensible.

You and Dobson prefer a different candidate- fine!!!! To caste Calista as a prostitute unfitting of being First Lady in order to support your nominee, is a black mark to one’s soul.

Contrary to your dismissive- “that’s a laugh”— it is not! Thankfully, there is a forgivng God.


238 posted on 01/17/2012 6:44:27 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

239 posted on 01/17/2012 6:46:34 PM PST by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Why whoops?

No mistake. I’m pointing out pure hypocrisy.

**********
Right! So was I. I’m just ticked that some people, who have ulterior motives, wasted my time in doing so.


240 posted on 01/17/2012 6:47:44 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL
The discussion is NOT about speaking to negative behavior

Unfortunately, part of the discussion IS about that because you introduced the idea. Dobson DOES have the right to speak out contrary to your quoting a scripture intending to negate his right to do so.

You and Dobson prefer a different candidate- fine!!!!

Wrong yet again. I do NOT prefer a different candidate. I will vote for whoever takes the nomination against Obama. However, I am not avidly in favor of any of them.

To caste Calista as a prostitute

No, no one claimed this. You are again misrepresenting what was said.

241 posted on 01/17/2012 6:53:18 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Afronaut

Afro-

LOL! You know, on this thread, they are making the argument she can’t be First Lady because of her morals. That I adamantly contest.

Now, if they have argued,— would I’d like to see her every day on tv-—wellllll


242 posted on 01/17/2012 6:57:22 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL
Right! So was I.

Actually, you were engaging in hypocrisy, claiming that someone had no right to judge unless they were sinless while you yourself were busy judging another.

243 posted on 01/17/2012 7:00:14 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

Respectfully, I’ve made my point to my satisfaction- and will not discuss it further.

Whatever you believe, you believe.

Perhaps, we’ll be on better terms on the different thread. God Bless.

Vin


244 posted on 01/17/2012 7:03:50 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

So Dobson wants Romney nominating Souters and O’Conner’s?

Santorum is obviously a nice guy and he would make a terrific Senator.

Maybe he should run against Casey again in PA?


245 posted on 01/17/2012 7:13:53 PM PST by proudpapa
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To: VinL

So Dobson wants Romney nominating Souters and O’Conner’s?

Santorum is obviously a nice guy and he would make a terrific Senator.

Maybe he should run against Casey again in PA?


246 posted on 01/17/2012 7:14:07 PM PST by proudpapa
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To: VinL
Whatever you believe, you believe.

I absolutely believe that a christian leader who has devoted his life to the sanctity of marriage has a right and perhaps a responsibility to speak out against infidelity.

I am amazed that Dobson is attacked so vociferously by christians for doing so, and even Scripture is wrongly interpreted and used against that activity.

247 posted on 01/17/2012 7:18:44 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Mariner

Well that’s fair.

We’ve about had it with you “forgive me or else” hypocrites.

How does it feel to be on the same side as the guy who killed John the Baptist?


248 posted on 01/17/2012 7:34:03 PM PST by papertyger
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To: trisham

I don’t believe either Clinton or Gingrich has “truly repented.” Both will say whatever advances their personal ambitions.


249 posted on 01/17/2012 7:41:45 PM PST by kabar
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To: papertyger
"How does it feel to be on the same side as the guy who killed John the Baptist?"

You say that as if it's important to you.

Good for you.

Now go out and get 51% of the electorate to either agree with your worldview, or find a large enough group of folks that will coalesce with you to form 51% and win the election.

250 posted on 01/17/2012 7:49:35 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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