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Va. Appeals Court Rules Against Perry and Gingrich’s Attempt to Get on Ballot
ABC News ^ | Jan 17, 2012 5:16pm | Ariane de Vogue

Posted on 01/17/2012 3:31:51 PM PST by Quicksilver

A federal appeals court in Virginia today denied an emergency request by Republican presidential hopefuls Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich to be placed on the ballot for the Virginia primary.

After failing to get the required 10,000 signatures necessary to be placed on the ballot, the two candidates argued that Virginia’s strict ballot law was unconstitutional.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit agreed with a lower court and ruled today that the candidates had waited too long to file their suit.

The court ruled unanimously that Perry and the other candidates “had every opportunity to challenge the various Virginia ballot requirements at a time when the challenge would not have created the disruption that this last-minute lawsuit has.”

The court said that if it had ruled in favor of Perry, then it would encourage other candidates for president “who knew the requirements and failed to satisfy them to seek at a tardy and belated hour to change the rules of the game.”

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; lawsuit; newtgingrich; perry2012; rickperry; ricksantorum; ruling; va2012; vagop; vaprimary; virginia
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To: muawiyah

I’m sorry, what am I missing? The court followed the law—for a change. What is fascist about that?

The candidates who did get on the VA ballot followed the law. I find that refreshing. You should too.

Too bad your guy did not follow the law. He had the same opportunity the balloted candidates did.

You know what? You sound like the Marxist demrats. Candidate not doint well? Let’s just replace him/her two weeks before election day.

And another thing, if a presidential candidate screws up getting his/her name on a state ballot I find that pathetic. Why would I vote for this person to be my president?


21 posted on 01/17/2012 4:56:18 PM PST by dools0007world
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To: Quicksilver

The plaintiffs failed to make the important point:

The discrimination did not occur UNTIL Romney and Paul
were allowed to pass without a count.


22 posted on 01/17/2012 5:11:59 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: dools0007world

Cut off the nonsense. You know there was corruption in the process. Your boy cheated. That’s how he does business.


23 posted on 01/17/2012 5:18:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: sam_paine

I’d be happy if you burned Axelrod at the stake frankly.


24 posted on 01/17/2012 5:19:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: fatnotlazy

ROMNEY CAN STILL BE DE-RAILED. Don’t give up!


25 posted on 01/17/2012 5:19:55 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (The top leading CONSERVATIVE as of today in terms of 2012 GOP convention delegates, is RICK SANTORUM)
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To: blueyon

Maybe because that was ONE judge. This story is about a THREE judge panel, same result.


26 posted on 01/17/2012 5:24:45 PM PST by newzjunkey (Imbecilic early voters doom us all.)
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To: Quicksilver

The opinion
http://pacer.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinion.pdf/121067R1.U.pdf


27 posted on 01/17/2012 5:25:23 PM PST by mrsmith (What Tea Party nominee have you found for your House seat?)
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To: blueyon
I wonder why ABC covered this today when the judge ruled on this last week....................I find that very odd, very odd indeed

The district court ruled last week. This is the ruling from the appeals court.

28 posted on 01/17/2012 5:25:48 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: dools0007world

Too often people decide their opinion on a case by first making an evaluation on each litigant or involved person instead of looking at the law and the conservative principle of States’ Rights.

In this case, Virginia and the Virginia GOP should be able to set their own standards without having Activist Federal Judges dictate how they run a primary election.


29 posted on 01/17/2012 5:26:13 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

This might be Virginia’s right but perception is everything.

The perception that will arise from Virginia only having Romney and Ron Paul on the ballot will cause the entire country to cast a jaundiced eye on this silly scene.

The GOP Blue Blood Elite want their Romney man and so it shall be.


30 posted on 01/17/2012 5:28:51 PM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: muawiyah

“Cut off the nonsense. You know there was corruption in the process. Your boy cheated. That’s how he does business.”

What corruption?

The VA GOP designed the standards to get on the Primary ballot and those standards were approved by the legislature.


31 posted on 01/17/2012 5:30:19 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
In your brilliance you fail to grasp the state changed the application of its rules this year compared to previous years.

With just Romney, Obama and Ron Paul to pick from, the losers here are the voters in Virginia.

Both Newt and Perry made a good faith effort to comply with the rules, there just happened to be suspiciously high error rate in their gathered signatures. I'm sure there's never an attempt to disrupt signature gathering for ballot access. /s

32 posted on 01/17/2012 5:30:54 PM PST by newzjunkey (Imbecilic early voters doom us all.)
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To: trumandogz
Don't be evasive. You know very well that the "standards" at issue are those regarding how many signatures you needed to AVOID validation.

Evasiveness like that will get you tossed in the clink on what started out as a suspected DUI.

33 posted on 01/17/2012 5:37:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Fishtalk

The whole country will look at this and say “Romney is too slick ~ he cheats”.


34 posted on 01/17/2012 5:39:04 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; trumandogz

Please explain to me where fraud occurred. Explain to me where cheating occurred. How was it facilitated?

Romney observed the requirements to certify, and the other players didn’t. How is that evidence of cheating, fraud, or anything else?

If you can explain how you think Virginia and Romney conspired to deny other people a spot on the ballot clearly enough, I would agree with you.

Absent that, I think Trumandogz has it right here.

How would you like it if your candidate played by the rules, he was the only one to get on the ballot, and then the federal government stepped in and said the others didn’t have to comply with the rules as your candidate did?

Isn’t that what is taking place here, only in reverse?


35 posted on 01/17/2012 5:39:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (This administration is Barawkward... yes lets try everything that failed in the 20th Century. NOT!)
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To: fatnotlazy

One way or another, we need to push on PACs of DeMint or someone wlse, because hopefully we can get a Congress in place to oppose whomever is in the oval office.

We could oppose Romney to some extent in office, and the GOP congressional members wouldn’t like him all too much. We could also support Santorum or Demint, or possibly even Bobby Jindal to ultimately start kicking Romney’s rear. As for Obama, the man has already descended into a state of being nigh impossible to reason with, even with bipartisan opposition to some of his bills, he can’t get a clue as to what he is doing. Extra time in office would only make him devolve further.


36 posted on 01/17/2012 5:40:44 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Fishtalk

I am not claiming that the Virgina GOP did not establish a stupid rule and the legislature did not approve a stupid law. Nor I am I claiming that better candidates than Romney are being hurt by the Va GOP rule.

However, you look like a damn fool when you write about the importance of the 10th Amendment and States’s Rights and then run to a Federal Court begging for them to overturn a state election law..


37 posted on 01/17/2012 5:43:16 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: Quicksilver

Gingrich and Perry not ending up on the ballot is the fault of nobody else but themselves. If they actually had a plan, or a brain, they would have been demanding signatures in advance. However, because they didn’t think about Virginia, they torpedoed their own chance of being a possible win in those primaries. As much as I dislike Romney, it’s sad when he actually has enough of a brain to call up potential voters in Virginia while Newt and Perry don’t. If Newt had any brain in his skull, he should have actually bothered throwing support behind Santorum with an endorsement earlier on.

The part that reeks the most is the fact that Gingrich and Perry almost practically set up Romney to win with their own failure to plan, or planning to fail, depending on how it’s said.


38 posted on 01/17/2012 5:46:34 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: newzjunkey; trumandogz
I seriously doubt trumandogz has the brilliance to understand this process.

The only choice for Romney is to have his petitions validated, or to simply drop out of the Virginia primary.

39 posted on 01/17/2012 5:48:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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