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Garfield Heights,OH Shortens School Day, Parents Blame Voters
Fox 8 News ^ | 1/17/12 | Emily Valdez

Posted on 01/17/2012 6:51:34 PM PST by EBH

As of Tuesday, programs like elementary music, art and physical education are gone and libraries are closed.

School days are shortened to just 5 1/2 hours -- leaving kids less time for instruction, and working parents scrambling.

"What are kids gonna do with that big window of time when their parents are still working and all that idle time that they still have, to do God knows what?" parent Jeff Bodziony said.

Hot school lunches are also thing of the past.

In fact, lunch is a thing of the past.

Students used to have lunch in the noon hour.

Instead they are now sent home at 1:15 p.m.

Kids who qualify for free lunches were sent home Tuesday with a bologna sandwich, an apple and a pickle.

(Excerpt) Read more at fox8.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: arth; educationfunding; levy; nomoney; schools; taxes
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Hmmmm...maybe they won't have the time to work on those indoctrination classes after all.

Worried about the big block of time? Are they saying the school really was just a tax payer day care?

1 posted on 01/17/2012 6:51:38 PM PST by EBH
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To: EBH

Garfield Heights Parents Demand Answers from School Board Over Cuts
http://www.fox8.com/news/wjw-garfield-heights-parents-question-school-board-txt,0,1684869.story

“The first lady is always talking about get moving, and physical education is so important to our kids. We have so many obese kids and now that’s one of the things you are looking at cutting!” said Katrina Hairston-Taylor, a concerned parent.

Due to the shortened day, students who qualify for free lunches will get those lunches at the end of the day in a brown bagged lunch to go.

“It’s getting to the point where we might just have to take our kids academic future in our own hands. There are other choices. But we believe the Garfield Heights School system and we love this community,” said Mike Sajovie, a parent.

School officials hope residents take that belief to the polls in March, for another levy.


2 posted on 01/17/2012 6:54:13 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

I thought this was an interesting turn of events.


3 posted on 01/17/2012 6:56:12 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: metmom; wintertime

Some school employees are so arrogant. Metmom, you know what to do.


4 posted on 01/17/2012 6:56:12 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: EBH

I’m sure all this action was taken after the teachers union scaled back wages 30%, started paying 50% of their health care costs, and upped their retirement contributions by 50% .... you know for the chillin’s sake!


5 posted on 01/17/2012 6:56:45 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: EBH

An entire “news story” with no information, just complaints.


6 posted on 01/17/2012 6:56:45 PM PST by jocon307
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To: EBH

>>”What are kids gonna do with that big window of time when their parents are still working and all that idle time that they still have, to do God knows what?” parent Jeff Bodziony said. <<

Oooops Jeff, guess you’ll have to pay for latch key or do what the Homeschooling parents do, split your shifts so one of you is home with the kids.

It all comes down to, now you’ll have to parent. OMG!!!


7 posted on 01/17/2012 6:57:42 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: EBH

Want some easy levy cash? Let’s see your books.


8 posted on 01/17/2012 6:59:07 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: RetiredTexasVet

You have the Post of the Day!


9 posted on 01/17/2012 6:59:32 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: EBH
"programs like elementary music, art and physical education are gone and libraries are closed."

Programs like bloated administrative staffs; fat pensions; high wages; tenure; paid sick days; etc. are still intact.

10 posted on 01/17/2012 6:59:32 PM PST by hometoroost (Frodo lives!)
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To: EBH

What about a MUCH lower Administrative overhead/headcount? Larger class size? Lower teacher salaries and fringes?


11 posted on 01/17/2012 6:59:37 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: EBH
"School officials hope residents take that belief to the polls in March, for another levy."

Why vote to give them more money? None of it ever trickles down to the classroom. It will be sucked off by the Teacher's union thugs and the bloated administration bureaucracy. Education vouchers are the answer. Give the parents CHOICE!

12 posted on 01/17/2012 7:00:00 PM PST by holyscroller ( Without God, America is one nation under)
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To: EBH

Give them vouchers. The public school can not manage it’s money.


13 posted on 01/17/2012 7:00:20 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: netmilsmom

I liked the comment in the second article about taking their children’s education into their own hands...

That is where it should have been all this time.


14 posted on 01/17/2012 7:00:20 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: EBH

Us west-siders used to call it “Garbage Heights”. :-)

Seriously, the shortened day is simply taxpayer blackmail. They could cut out 2 or 3 levels of administratium instead of shortening the school day, but their goal is to get more tax money from the citizens, not to educate the kids.


15 posted on 01/17/2012 7:02:53 PM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: holyscroller

They have not passed a levy since 1992.


16 posted on 01/17/2012 7:02:56 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: EBH

Get rid of Teacher’s Unions and the associated dues.
Cut “administrators” numbers by 60%.
Cut the number of useless elective classes by half.
Now, get back to work and teach our kids the skills necessary to be productive citizens.


17 posted on 01/17/2012 7:03:28 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: EBH
From the article: Obviously the voters decided the school district didn't need the money. If this is a typical district, they are way heavy in administrators. Maybe a 30% cut there would help?

I suspect these "hardships" are the district's way of fighting back against the stingy taxpayers.

18 posted on 01/17/2012 7:03:34 PM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: netmilsmom

Just imagine the day when they announce all foodstamps, section 8 housing and medicaid have ceased. They don’t realize that the minority taxpayers can’t carry this burden FOREVER!!!


19 posted on 01/17/2012 7:03:55 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: netmilsmom

Just imagine the day when they announce all foodstamps, section 8 housing and medicaid have ceased. They don’t realize that the minority taxpayers can’t carry this burden FOREVER!!!


20 posted on 01/17/2012 7:04:10 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: EBH
Garfield Heights is one of those declining transitional almost-inner ring suburbs with a huge overhang of pensions and medical insurance for teachers who have been there forever.

It is a poster child for why Kasich sought relief through what became known as Issue 2. The unions have caused this strangulation of the educational process, but the peeps over there in GH are too stupid to recognize the connection between their votes (against issue 2 and against local levies) and the school's actions.

21 posted on 01/17/2012 7:04:30 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: upchuck

See post 12...


22 posted on 01/17/2012 7:05:45 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: EBH

>>That is where it should have been all this time.<<

Exactly.

In fact, I could see parents getting together and doing a co-op deal while using Ohio Virtual Academy. K12 is a wonderful education.


23 posted on 01/17/2012 7:06:15 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: EBH
What an odd collection of reactions...

You'd think the parents and the voters were two totally different groups of people -- one somehow acting against the others' interest.

And you'd think the parents themselves would accept some responsibility for their childrens' obesity...and their education.

But, nooooooooooo, it's the voters' fault. And the school is sole responsible for raising and educating the kid.

24 posted on 01/17/2012 7:07:26 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: EBH

Since when do you get an Apple AND a Pickle?


25 posted on 01/17/2012 7:08:37 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: netmilsmom

I agree with you on that. There are other options if the parents are serious about educating their children.


26 posted on 01/17/2012 7:08:46 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: EBH

“In fact, lunch is a thing of the past.”

We never had lunches in my school. Bring your own or starve. Now how hard is to grasp that concept?


27 posted on 01/17/2012 7:09:13 PM PST by max americana (Obama is a POS)
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To: meyer

>>Us west-siders used to call it “Garbage Heights”. :-)<<

It’s just Brook Park of the east side. (I’m from Brook Park)
Lower middle class, blue collar.

I knew a lot of lovely people that lived there.


28 posted on 01/17/2012 7:10:21 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom

Speaking of latchkey kids. I was the only mom in the neighborhood home when we lived in Maryland and the mothers found out about me. I worked out of my house and had a helper for the children.

I was asked by mothers to keep house keys for when the children lost their keys and help if they had an emergency. It was a zoo. The emergencies turned out to be hunger, lonliness or math homework... I could not work from three to six pm and had to work after the kids went to bed to make up for it. What a zoo!


29 posted on 01/17/2012 7:10:54 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Donnafrflorida

>>Just imagine the day when they announce all foodstamps, section 8 housing and medicaid have ceased<<

Don’t hold your breath.
The entitlement people vote for more all the time.


30 posted on 01/17/2012 7:12:04 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Donnafrflorida

I sort of think this is the tip of iceberg showing. Wondering where the first truly visible collapse would start showing? Banks, jobs, food?

No, the schools. The forclosures and drop in property values here in Ohio are finally starting to really show in the place most people were not looking...the schools.


31 posted on 01/17/2012 7:13:11 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Donnafrflorida

I sort of think this is the tip of iceberg showing. Wondering where the first truly visible collapse would start showing? Banks, jobs, food?

No, the schools. The foreclosures and drop in property values here in Ohio are finally starting to really show in the place most people were not looking...the schools.


32 posted on 01/17/2012 7:13:23 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: EBH

I feel so sorry for the parents.

Not!


33 posted on 01/17/2012 7:14:22 PM PST by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: EBH

No, no; the indoctrination classes take up the first 4 hours of the day as always. It’s all that unnecessary learning stuff that’s been phased out.


34 posted on 01/17/2012 7:14:25 PM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: EBH
As of Tuesday, programs like elementary music, art and physical education are gone

I would have done the opposite. I would send the kids home to learn math, science, language, etc, via computer based training, but the schools would be open for art, music, sports, and other activities where there is social learning involved.

Oh, and I would have cut the administrative overhead first.

35 posted on 01/17/2012 7:15:56 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: EBH

>>I agree with you on that. There are other options if the parents are serious about educating their children.<<

Cash could be made by a smart mom with an internet connection at high speed.

If I’m not mistaken, OVA is giving laptops for schoolwork. All a child needs is that wireless internet connection and their own phone (OVA wants a phone number per family). A mom could school her own kids and a few others out of her home. Win-win for everyone.


36 posted on 01/17/2012 7:16:41 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: SaraJohnson

You needed to charge for “emergencies”.


37 posted on 01/17/2012 7:18:48 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom

Mathematics don’t lie. They WILL RUN OUT OF MONEY EVENTUALLY. Then what? We will look like n Korea or Cuba. Rationed food. All jobs are government.


38 posted on 01/17/2012 7:19:49 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: netmilsmom

Mathematics don’t lie. They WILL RUN OUT OF MONEY EVENTUALLY. Then what? We will look like n Korea or Cuba. Rationed food. All jobs are government.


39 posted on 01/17/2012 7:19:58 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: EBH
The Garfield Heights City Schools paid 515 employees in 2011, one of whom, Linda Reid, was paid $182,802. A quick perusal of the salary data shows many, many staff members making in excess of $76,000 per year for 185 days of paid work, or the equivalent of $102,000 per year in the private sector. In addition, most of those employees are eligible for a lifetime pension upon retirement of the better part of $1,000,000, assuming average life expectancy. The majority of those employees also receive a generous package of benefits, all courtesy of the taxpayers.

The average salary for jobs in Garfield Heights, Ohio is approximately $31,000.

Read it for yourself, if you can stomach it, at the Buckeye Institute's website.

40 posted on 01/17/2012 7:25:24 PM PST by TonyInOhio ( Capabilities, not Intentions)
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To: jocon307

This was a stupid “sound bite” story. I’m ashamed that Fox ran with it as is.

Question: What are all the teachers going to do with all that free time? Find another parttime job? In Ohio?

Kids belong in school. Govt employees should pay more into their pension and health insurance plans, otherwise, nobody is going to get anything in the long run. The money AIN’T there after decades of Democrats corruption, exorbitant spending, and fiscal mismanagement.

Bologna sandwich, pickle and an apple. That’s what I used to east in elementary and junior high school (minus the pickle). Today I had a turkey sandwich for lunch (no breakfast). I want my apple!


41 posted on 01/17/2012 7:28:44 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: EBH
Of course the corollary is that school districts, generally, were some of the biggest beneficiaries of the housing price bubble.

Higher property assessments, more money for teacher/admin salaries, more union dues, more Dem campaign contributions...

42 posted on 01/17/2012 7:42:10 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: TonyInOhio

Holy crap!! I’d say I’m in the wrong business but I couldn’t put with kids for even 185 days a year:-)


43 posted on 01/17/2012 7:50:50 PM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: EBH

Considering Cleveland has some 10,000 empty homes from what I remember reading. Euclid isn’t doing well at all, and I can imagine its not to good for a lot of the other suburbs right on Cleveland’s boarder. I guess things will start spreading further out from the center at this point and this story sure is giving rise to that belief. Have family in the area, and trying to sell a house is almost impossible. It is going to get whole lot worse.


44 posted on 01/17/2012 7:51:49 PM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: max americana

Whether it was a total fiction story I do not know, but I remember reading of little schoolhouses where each student would bring something like a potato or carrot or hunk of salt beef and the teacher would cook up a stew in a large caldron for the students to eat later in the day.


45 posted on 01/17/2012 8:04:02 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: TonyInOhio

What IS that person? Superintendent of the county schools?


46 posted on 01/17/2012 8:05:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: EBH
How about we cut teachers, eliminate the Teachers' Union, and have them contribute to their retirement and healthcare costs?

Same problem in EVERY state that has Union extortion going on.

47 posted on 01/17/2012 8:08:29 PM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: TonyInOhio

Hot school lunches are also thing of the past.

In fact, lunch is a thing of the past.

But

Linda Reid, was paid $182,802

You Garfield Heights parents are being played the fool.


48 posted on 01/17/2012 8:19:58 PM PST by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

FYI


49 posted on 01/17/2012 8:31:10 PM PST by Whenifhow
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To: EBH; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

I didn't spend 5 1/2 hours a day homeschooling my three kids all put together.

And the parents are blaming the *voters*?!?!

Does that mean that the parents AREN'T the voters????

Then whose fault is that?

Idiots. If they don't like the way the education in their district is going, it's up to THEM to do something about it.

50 posted on 01/17/2012 8:49:35 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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