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First Thoughts: Newt-mentum returns?
msnbc.msn.com ^ | 1/18/2012 | Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Brooke Brower

Posted on 01/18/2012 7:07:39 AM PST by TBBT

Is Newt-mentum returning?... Even if so, Gingrich faces two challenges: time and math… Romney’s wealth and Bain Capital have been THE story in the GOP race for the past 10 days (and counting)… Are the first Obama TV ads going up? If so, they will come earlier than the first Clinton and Bush ads did in their re-election years… And Dem convention goes from four days to three days, creating a potential speaking-scheduling problem.

*** Newt-mentum returns? There are some increasing signs -- though all of it anecdotal for now -- that Newt Gingrich is gaining some momentum three days before the South Carolina primary. First was his strong debate performance on Monday, from which his campaign cut a new TV ad. Second, the Romney campaign today is holding a conference call (featuring former Sen. Jim Talent and former Rep. Susan Molinari) with the sole purpose of hitting Gingrich, and we haven’t seen one of those from the Romney camp since Iowa. And third, Sarah Palin sort of endorsed Gingrich last night, saying per NBC’s Alex Moe: “If I had to vote in South Carolina, in order to keep this thing going, I’d vote for Newt and I would want this to continue.” Gingrich’s top spokesman responded to the Palin news this way: “We think it’s a pretty darn clear call to arms.” Is Newt-mentum for real? We’ll find out tomorrow morning from our brand-new NBC-Marist poll of South Carolina.

(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: newt
Seen a few headlines like this in last 24 hours. Headlines like this often seem to proceed actual surges. Could the media types be hearing things behind the scenes?

On the other hand... This is just as likely to be MSNBC just pimping their poll.

1 posted on 01/18/2012 7:07:44 AM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

Romney has always known that his only real threat has been Gingrich, which was why he launched that vicious ad campaign in Iowa. Expect things to get really ugly now.


2 posted on 01/18/2012 7:14:48 AM PST by livius
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To: TBBT
Where are the NEW POLLS after the Great Debate Win by Newt?

Up until then it was 24/7 poll numbers, now crickets. Newt must have really surged, more than we know.

3 posted on 01/18/2012 7:15:16 AM PST by annieokie
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To: TBBT
At this point Santorum is only in the race so that he can get several cable news 'contributor' gigs on cable tv

Much the same way Herman Cain had from the beginning

We've just cast our early ballots for Newt here in Florida

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4 posted on 01/18/2012 7:18:42 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: TBBT

The more people see Newt, the more they lean in his direction.

All he needs is more exposure, the MSM knows this and will seek to limit his exposure as much as possible.

When a fat little white haired man causes this reaction in people it is rare indeed!

Churchill had the same effect, and was also flawed and far from pretty.


5 posted on 01/18/2012 7:20:29 AM PST by Bobalu (Newt is just the a-hole we need at a time like this)
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To: annieokie
now crickets.

The needle on the Newtometer got pegged at the far right and is now stuck. They are working on getting it loose, for an accurate poll, you see.

6 posted on 01/18/2012 7:23:05 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot

Yep, I see. lol, I think your right about that, BUT I WANT TO SEE IT ANYWAY, dmit.


7 posted on 01/18/2012 7:28:09 AM PST by annieokie
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To: TBBT

Internals are the best polls money can buy, and politicians spend real money for internal polls. Reporters around the campaigns can pick up the vibe from those who have access to the internals and it starts to bleed out.

What does this tell me? Romney’s camp is remaining calm, and Gingrich’s people are getting fired up. That means there is a surge in the internals for Gingrich... and Romney has a lot of professionals on staff.

If Gingrich doesn’t win South Carolina outright, he will likely be very close to Romney, and it will be a two man fight from here on out. Unfortunately, you cannot lose your way into the nomination, so if he doesn’t win South Carolina, it’s a matter of trying to prevent Romney from securing 1144 and making the Convention decide.


8 posted on 01/18/2012 7:32:07 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: TBBT
Gingrich faces two challenges: time and math

And a few other challenges like Neut is a completely unprinicipled scoundrel who will say anything to get elected, but then will go hard left liberal once he has the chance. This is the true Neut


9 posted on 01/18/2012 7:36:54 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: TBBT

Foxnews just showed a Poll with Romney a measly 3% ahead of Newt! GO NEWT GO!


10 posted on 01/18/2012 7:53:18 AM PST by JSDude1 (https://www.newt.org/donate)
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To: TBBT

Newt could be in the position Romney is now if he had stayed on the course he started on when he shot from singles digits to the top. Keep his broadside fire on Obama, talk about his accomplishments while Speaker of the House, and give those magnificent orations that inspire standing ovations like he did at the last debate. Instead he followed the lead of the other candidates and turned his broadsides on Mitt. You want to know what broke Mitt out of the 24% cap? - being attacked relentlessly. Coming from his own party or not, GOP’ers chose to rally around the only candidate that was not sounding petty and desperate, when they were looking for someone in control and in charge.
Is it to late for Newt? We forget that this is a race to get delegates not who can win the first three or four states. Romney won 17 delegates to date, and he is very likely to win SC and FL, but Newt can stay on his heels and overcome him if he gives us the Newt we saw last debate.


11 posted on 01/18/2012 8:06:58 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

On what planet?

Newt tanked AFTER Romney’s broadsides, BEFORE the counter attack.

True, the Bain attacks were counter produtrive, but the real damage was already done.


12 posted on 01/18/2012 8:13:20 AM PST by moonhawk (Romney tucks his tail and licks the hand that beats him. Newt rips it off at the shoulder.)
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To: TBBT

Remember that SC is a open primary. The Democrats and Independents will vote enmasse for Paul, giving him the appearance of more support than he has. That will encourage him, and he doesn’t need much, to run as a third party Independent and syphon some votes from the Republicans.


13 posted on 01/18/2012 8:23:33 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Democrats are voting for Romney not Paul. Every democrat I know thinks Paul is nuts. He cuts into thier entitlements and is anti-union. They don’t mind Romney, even if he wins the general election they would be happy since he pretty much R’obama’ny.


14 posted on 01/18/2012 8:26:43 AM PST by CJ Wolf (OMG - Obama Must Go!)
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To: from occupied ga

So you are pulling for Romney? Seriously. Nobody is saying Newt is perfect, and he has already addressed that. To ONCE AGAIN bring that up means one thing ... that you would prefer Romney over Newt. If you dont prefer Romney ... then drop it.


15 posted on 01/18/2012 8:46:31 AM PST by RainMan (As I have been saying for months Newt/Sarah)
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To: RainMan

If somebody prefers Romney over Newt, then they prefer Obama to Newt, because if Romney is the nominee, that is what they are going to get.


16 posted on 01/18/2012 8:50:38 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: RainMan
then drop it.

What is it about you newters that makes you want to supress the truth? Never mind I can't stand either Neut or Mittens and I sure as hell don't care what your opinion is.


17 posted on 01/18/2012 8:54:19 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: NavyCanDo

That’s ridiculous. The only one running a positive campaign was Gingrich, and he was running well. But after Romney launched the vicious personal attack videos on him in Iowa, he sank to the point where the non-descript, nebbishy Santorum even got ahead (truly showing you how little people like or want Romney). I think it actually took Gingrich by surprise, since he had been stressing attacking Obama and not the other candidates.

Gingrich came back with a hit vid of his own, and actually, I think it did rattle Romney and at least made people start looking at Romney’s actual record and not what he said it was. Romney had never gotten any scrutiny before that, and I think he’s not doing very well with it now.

And now Gingrich can abandon that approach and go back to what he did Monday night, positive campaigning. But I think he’s watching his back now and wouldn’t trust Romney as far as he could throw him.


18 posted on 01/18/2012 9:05:15 AM PST by livius
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To: moonhawk

Amazing what several mil in BS ads can do.


19 posted on 01/18/2012 9:09:10 AM PST by moehoward
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To: from occupied ga

WOW. What a damning image!!!! HOLY CRAP!!
Where has it been hiding for all these years!
Why oh why haven’t you released it before................../s


20 posted on 01/18/2012 9:13:11 AM PST by moehoward
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To: moehoward

Zzzzzzzz


21 posted on 01/18/2012 9:16:09 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

Exactly!


22 posted on 01/18/2012 9:20:52 AM PST by moehoward
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To: moehoward

Your boy Neut is no different than Mittens - both liberal country club republicans, One’s a tree hugger (Neut) and the other thinks 0bama care is a good idea.


23 posted on 01/18/2012 9:25:25 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

I guess you’ll be pulling the lever for the other side.

........my boy Neut...........yawn.


24 posted on 01/18/2012 9:50:54 AM PST by moehoward
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To: moehoward
I guess you’ll be pulling the lever for the other side.

Another thing I've noticed aobut newters is that they're incapable of discussing issues. They always have to attack the messenger. Obviously because their boy is a liberal like McCain or Mittens or Bush. There aren't any candidates left in the race who have a conservative bone in their bodies except Ron Paul, and he's got real problems in the foreign police dept.

25 posted on 01/18/2012 10:34:50 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: livius

“But I think he’s watching his back now and wouldn’t trust Romney as far as he could throw him.”

Sarah Palin had the exact same experience with “former” Romney, now McCain campaign workers in 2008.....

No pol worth his salt will let Romney, or his people, anywhere his back.... Did I just call Romney a backstabber? You betcha, I did. Pure used car salesman sleaze comes to mind also.......


26 posted on 01/18/2012 10:56:35 AM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: from occupied ga
You must be MUCH younger than I am. I remember a Newt who had the balls to shut down the government. I'd love that to happen today.

I remember a Newt who worked with Reagan.

The picture you post is accurate, but it is NOT the only picture of Newt.

27 posted on 01/18/2012 11:05:28 AM PST by Chgogal (WSJ, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: from occupied ga
If you are so cool then have the balls to post a picture of Newt on the Capital stairs introducing The Contract with America in 1994?
28 posted on 01/18/2012 11:07:41 AM PST by Chgogal (WSJ, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: from occupied ga
"I've noticed aobut newters is that they're incapable of discussing issues."

There is only one "issue". And that is putting the most Conservative candidate in the White House.

The only perfect person died on the cross a while back. Of those currently available, who are actually running to beat hussein in the general, IMHO, Newt is the best bet. He does common sense better than any of them, and that will work wonders in the general.

You want to discuss past mistakes/failures, fine. Go right ahead. He's admitted it was a mistake to go along with that SF hag. Obviously you can't let it go.

29 posted on 01/18/2012 11:34:21 AM PST by moehoward
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To: from occupied ga

I will answer your question with a question back. What is it about you Newt haters that think you are doing ANYTHING except handing the nomination to Romney. And, in your original comments, Newt does NOT run to the left in office. If anything, he runs to the left when out of office (hence your picture), but runs to the right while in office.


30 posted on 01/18/2012 2:46:35 PM PST by RainMan (As I have been saying for months Newt/Sarah)
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To: Forty-Niner

Well, I was just reading that Romney appears to have dredged up Gingrich’s second wife (now an ex) to re-run her 1996 complaints against him, so I guess calling Romney a used car salesman might be a compliment.

Actually, Romney’s not only sleazy but stupid. Who the heck cares what somebody’s ex says about anything? Especially nearly 20 years later.


31 posted on 01/18/2012 6:23:49 PM PST by livius
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To: Chgogal
If you are so cool then have the balls to post a picture of Newt on the Capital stairs introducing The Contract with America in 1994?

Contract 1994, Neut the globull warming champion 2008. But what you on't know is that neut was a tree hugger from the getgo. Back in his West Ga College days he was very anti-business until he got bought off by Roy Richards. But unlike honest politicians, Neut didn't stay bought

32 posted on 01/18/2012 7:11:27 PM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
I did not know that.

I am looking it up.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_n43_v11/ai_17626420/

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/12/us/the-local-forces-that-helped-shape-gingrich-as-a-foe-of-regulation.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Just something to think about. My niece is studying Chinese and was in Beijing this summer. It's so polluted you can't see the sun. To date it seems we exported all our manufacturing that causes pollution to the “emerging markets”. It will bite us in the butt in the end, but until then we enjoy cheaper products, less pollution and low inflation.

33 posted on 01/18/2012 8:39:03 PM PST by Chgogal (WSJ, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: livius

“Who the heck cares what somebody’s ex says about anything? Especially nearly 20 years later.”

Exactly. The only ones it will effect are those that wouldn’t have voted for him anyway. The story is an old one having first erupted in 1995. It could be an Obama campaign attack, more in ;ine with his and Axelrod’s style. Calm and measured Newt can overcome this bucket of mud.

2012 is proving to be as dirty of a campaign as I predicted last year. There’s a lot more come....it’s gonna be a wild and bumpy ride.


34 posted on 01/18/2012 11:25:36 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Chgogal

The way I see it is that Mittens is about as far left as you can get without switching to the Democratic party. Neut is about Bush level moderate with occasional flashes of extreme leftism, but has not committed to a hard left agenda, so there might be some hope. Santorum About as bad. Perry a lot further to the right if you ignore his Hispandering, and Ron Paul OK on domestic issues, but totally unrealistic on foreign stuff, although I’d like to see us pull out our support for a lot of the countries that just use us to line their politicians’ pockets.


35 posted on 01/19/2012 11:52:10 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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