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Romney Was Board Member Of Company Fined Over $100 Million For Medicare Fraud -- Criminal Fine
Daily Caller ^ | PDF Pg 140 | McCain Campaign

Posted on 01/18/2012 8:28:27 AM PST by xzins

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You do your intellect a disservice by not taking my comment in context. My comment was only an endorsement when compared with the real life alternative: another four years of utter hatred for America occupying the Oval Office.

I am not here to be a Romney apologist—but the comparison between him and Hussein, on the whole, is to compare apples and oranges.

Hussein hates America, and Romney doesn’t...I’d rather pray for a flawed man for the next four years than endure the storm of fascism from a regime that hates Christianity, the Constitution, and capitalism.

81 posted on 01/18/2012 2:13:41 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe
Thanks, Scoutmaster. Excellent info. Are you a lawyer?Yes (we all make mistake in our youth). Healthcare attorney. Regulatory. Primarily fraud and abuse. I knew Damon, but knew it as a Corning deal (Corning owned it when the settlement was paid). Didn't know Romney was a director when Damon was billing the government for unordered tests. This was the most base and clearest form of fraud. You ALWAYS order three extra tests?

Four executives at Damon were indicted for conspiracy: Joseph Isola, Beno Kon, William Thurston and Gerald Kullen.

It was more complicated than I wrote.

For example, Damon took an End-Stage Renal Disease panel and would 'unbundle' it into two different tests and submit them on different days.

And this is another part of it (there were a lot of tentacles). From U.S. v. Thurston (do you want the full cite?):

The essence of the scheme charged was that Damon, through Thurston and others, bundled the ferritin blood test-previously ordered by doctors less than two percent of the time-into a panel of blood tests known as the LabScan, which was ordered thirty to forty percent of the time.   When doctors or patients (instead of insurers) paid for the bundled LabScan, Damon provided the ferritin test for free, leading doctors to believe there was no extra charge for this test.   Doctors were not told that, when Medicare paid for the bundled LabScan, Medicare was charged extra for the ferritin test.   Indeed, both a letter and marketing materials indicated the added ferritin test was “free”;  that is, that there was no charge beyond the standard LabScan charge.  

Those unnecessary ferritin tests were not free to Medicare.  

Damon charged Medicare roughly $21 per ferritin test on top of the approximately $24 charged for the LabScan.   Nor were doctors told that the ferritin test could be ordered separately;  the test requisition form did not offer that option.   The physicians, then, were induced to order and to certify as medically necessary a large number of ferritin tests that were not medically necessary.

There were LDS overtones. In U.S. v. Thurston (a different case), No. 05-2271 (5th Cir., July 26, 2006), the Court noted that:

"Isola accepted the government's offer, but Thurston and another codefendant declined Thurston rejected the offer because a guilty plea "would cause him to be shunned in the Mormon church."

Thurston was found guilty and for sentencing purposes was found to be "an organizer or leader of extensive criminal activiity" (a level-four enhancement). So he would be the organizer or leader of a fraud that the government said "involved literally millions of fraudulent claims" over a period of years - but wouldn't plead guilty as another defendant did because he would be shunned.

82 posted on 01/18/2012 2:29:17 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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place marker

83 posted on 01/18/2012 2:40:05 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Scoutmaster
Trickle, trickle...trickle trickle...trickle...You can bet the Obama campaign has this info too.

Good job, Scout!

84 posted on 01/18/2012 2:46:22 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (When GOP wants to guarantee a loss, they pick from MA: Dukakis, Kerry and now Romney.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Good job, Scout!


I knew about these people because this is what I do; I just had no idea Romney was a director of Damon when it was engaged in the blatant fraud.

Romney was a board member; those who were indicted were executives.

However, I'd like to know if the company had a Compliance Plan and a Compliance Officer. And I'd like to know what kind of blip in the financials all of this fraudulent billing created.

85 posted on 01/18/2012 2:59:09 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

Ping to #71

86 posted on 01/18/2012 3:00:19 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (When GOP wants to guarantee a loss, they pick from MA: Dukakis, Kerry and now Romney.)
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To: Prolixus

The truth about Romney is that he is a liar. A big government, statist/abortionist liar!! The man has no core principles and will say or do whatever he thinks he must say or do to get elected.

If you wish to promote Romney, please do it elsewhere. FR is and will remain a pro-life, pro-family, limited government grassroots conservative site!!

Romney and his abortionist RomneyCare is none of the above.

Continue pushing Romney on FR and we will part company.

87 posted on 01/18/2012 3:04:33 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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Romney is not electable.

You can bet "money" Barry will expose and drive Romney to the mat on this has been said...."Poster Boy Romney" for the great gap between the haves and have nots.

88 posted on 01/18/2012 3:32:21 PM PST by caww
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To: Earthdweller
Romney does not act anything like the Mormons I know.

Most aren't going to tell you one way or another how things are behind closed doors. Mormonism is a hierarchy...Romney's one of the top ones....the people at the bottom haven't a clue about it's leaderships dark's kept from them...they need the membership at the bottom to fiance operations and lifestyles for those at the top..... But Romney knows fully well...He's one of the many leaders who uses it's membership to acquire and maintain the wealth and holdings the leaders officiate over.....they are "required" to tithe a portion of their income and if they get behind there are consequences for not paying up.

89 posted on 01/18/2012 3:41:03 PM PST by caww
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I respect that you are not a Romney supporter.
Beyond that we will have to disagree.

Is Zero an abomination? Absolutely. Has he accelerated the destruction of America? Absolutely.
Now, let’s turn to Romney.

Will he turn this country back from the brink? Nothing in his history of actual governing would
indicate he has done anything except support gay marriage, abortion, further government taxation,
and increasing governmental power. Now he wants to become president, based on that behavior.

My vote is not available to people who pretend to be conservative, while in action are liberal,
no matter who they are running against.

What is needed now is not more liberalism. Not bigger, more powerful governments. What is needed
is someone with BALLS who will take a stand and turn the ship hard. If that does not happen now,
the iceberg we hit will render any differences between Zero and Zero II insignificant in history.

For this reason, while I agree tentatively with your assessment, in practical terms, any differences
between the two are meaningless and really just a matter of how fast our ship is traveling when
it hits the iceberg.

You seem to be willing to accept a slower rate of speed when we plow into the iceberg. I am not.
We each get one vote.

90 posted on 01/18/2012 4:01:50 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Proud RINOmney Denialist since 2007!)
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To: Prolixus
Romney's not going to offer anything better than what is happening currently and it's very clear why...

For one thing....Obama's administration used Romney's healthcare model and even recruited Romney's healthcare advisors to help put together Obamacare...Cozy team-work there wouldn't you say?.... So there will be a national healthcare program under Romney...though he'll simple tweak Obamacare enough to say he "changed it" for the American people and did as promised.

Furthermore Romney 'pretends' not to be a socialist whereas at least Obama is clearly seen as such....when you look at their positions there is very little difference between the two...they both say the "right things" for the moment to get their way even though neither believe what their own lips are saying. Remarkably... you need to hear Romney's wife...

Quote....."He can argue any side of a question..and sometimes you even think he's really believing his arguement...but he's not"....

Now that speaks volumes!

And of course Romney hiring 'more' liberal democrats as judicial apppointments then Republicans...well the proofs in the pudding.

And finally though certainly not all... Romney has raised more money from lobbyists than all of the other Republican candidates combined. .....So who do you think he is going to listen to?.... the American people or the lobbyists? Four more years of Barry would be a complete and total nightmare.....But so would four years of Mitt Romney....they are two peas in a pod.

I'd rather deal with a "known" enemy then someone pretending to be something they aren't.

91 posted on 01/18/2012 4:45:16 PM PST by caww
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92 posted on 01/18/2012 7:22:15 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: xzins
I think Romney is pro-Romney, an entitled narcissist.

Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.

Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:

* Believing that you’re better than others
* Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
* Exaggerating your achievements or talents
* Expecting constant praise and admiration
* Believing that you’re special and acting accordingly
* Failing to recognize other people’s emotions and feelings
* Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
* Taking advantage of others
* Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
* Being jealous of others
* Believing that others are jealous of you
* Trouble keeping healthy relationships
* Setting unrealistic goals
* Being easily hurt and rejected
* Having a fragile self-esteem
* Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional

Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence or strong self-esteem, it’s not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence and self-esteem into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal. In contrast, people who have healthy confidence and self-esteem don’t value themselves more than they value others.

When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may have a sense of entitlement. And when you don’t receive the special treatment to which you feel entitled, you may become very impatient or angry. You may insist on having “the best” of everything — the best car, athletic club, medical care or social circles, for instance.

93 posted on 01/18/2012 8:24:04 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: xzins

Romney Was Board Member of Marriott Hotels which sell in-room hard core porn..

so much for “family values”

94 posted on 01/20/2012 2:54:01 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: xzins

Why would he even run with all these things against him?

95 posted on 01/20/2012 3:09:17 PM PST by ncpatriot
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