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Battle for control of Asia's seas goes underwater
Associated Press ^ | 01/19/2012 | ERIC TALMADGE

Posted on 01/19/2012 3:09:49 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Battle for control of Asia's seas goes underwater

YOKOSUKA, Japan (AP) — It's getting a bit more crowded under the sea in Asia, where Andrew Peterson commands one of the world's mightiest weapons: a $2 billion nuclear submarine with unrivaled stealth and missiles that can devastate targets hundreds of miles (kilometers) away.

Super high-tech submarines like Cmdr. Peterson's USS Oklahoma City have long been the envy of navies all over the globe — and a key component of U.S. military strategy.

"We really have no peer," Peterson told The Associated Press during a recent port call in Japan.

But America's submarine dominance in the Pacific is facing its biggest challenge since the Cold War. Nearly every Asian country with a coastline is fortifying its submarine fleet amid territorial disputes stirred up by an increasingly assertive China and the promise of bountiful natural resources.

Submarines are difficult to find and hard to destroy. Even fairly crude submarine forces can attack surface ships or other targets with a great deal of stealth, making them perfect for countries with limited resources. The threat of such an attack is a powerful deterrent in Asia, where coastal defenses are vital.

"This is shaping up as an intense arms race," said Lyle Goldstein, an associate professor at the China Maritime Studies Institute of the U.S. Naval War College. "This arms race is not simply China versus the rest — though that explains much of it — because there are other rivalries here as well."

China is pouring money into enlarging and modernizing its fleet, and India is planning to get a nuclear-powered attack submarine — the INS Chakra — on a 10-year lease from Russia as early as this month.

Australia is debating

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: asia; australia; china; india; japan; southkorea; submarine; usn

FILE - In this April 23, 2009 file photo, a Chinese Navy nuclear-powered submarine sails during an international fleet review in the waters off Qingdao, China, to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the founding of People's Liberation Army Navy. Nearly every Asian country with a coastline is fortifying its submarine fleet amid territorial disputes stirred up by an increasingly assertive China and the promise of bountiful natural resources in the Pacific. (AP Photo/Guang Niu, Pool, File)

1 posted on 01/19/2012 3:09:55 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That sub is just another old Russian POS that ours ran rings around for the last 50 years.


2 posted on 01/19/2012 3:41:59 AM PST by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I believe this is a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear powered submarine. It seems all Chinese submarines have those cute little windows, with the white trim?


3 posted on 01/19/2012 3:44:43 AM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Are those windows in that submarine, near the top front of the tower?


4 posted on 01/19/2012 4:31:41 AM PST by PastorBooks
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To: nuke rocketeer
Looking at that boxy shape, all those vents and other discontinuities... Two words spring to mind: flow noise. This thing has got to be about as hard to track as my kid's stereo.

We should always take a threat, any threat, seriously. But if this thing is moving, it's toast.

5 posted on 01/19/2012 4:48:33 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: PastorBooks

Looks like Anderson windows. Really good! I wonder if it has a screen door, too.

Do they waterproof that thing with the same material I mop on my carport every couple of years?


6 posted on 01/19/2012 4:53:00 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I’m glad to see countries like Japan and Australia taking a more central role in their own defense by building up their navies. Both countries should have strong navies that we can work with.

This is part of the strategy I believe we should be taking all along. We should be pulling resources out of western Europe and adding them to the Middle East and Asia. I believe sometime in the 90’s we closed the airbase on Midway. I think we should re-open that. It’s of strategic importance IMO. Building up our bases on Guam is a good idea also. I like the idea of moving some of our troops from Okinawa and sending them to Guam.


7 posted on 01/19/2012 4:56:13 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: John Leland 1789

It doesn’t even look sea-worthy. You’d think they would try to at least make the skin surface smooth.

Made in China!


8 posted on 01/19/2012 9:56:49 AM PST by PastorBooks
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Midway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midway_Atoll

You’re right. We need to be thinking long-term strategy.


9 posted on 01/19/2012 10:06:08 AM PST by PastorBooks
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