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How Will The Shocking Decline Of Christianity In America Affect The Future Of This Nation?
The American Dreamw ^ | 1-19-2012

Posted on 01/19/2012 7:18:48 AM PST by blam

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To: asinclair
"As for the Bible, I've been spending so much of my life with a technical translator that I recognize that the original Word of God has been corrupted by mistakes, if not by outright manipulation, to compound the misunderstanding caused by the drift and evolution of the meaning of words."

This is just not true. How did you come to this conclusion? Due to the incredible number of manuscripts extant we can be confident that modern Bibles are over 95% accurate and true to the original writings. Futher, the Bible commands us to have fellowship with our Christian brother and sisters, a function which is fullfilled by attending Church. One should not look to what a Church can do for them but what they can do for the Church. We are called to be the salt and light and that can't be accomplished in front of the bathroom mirror.

21 posted on 01/19/2012 8:45:02 AM PST by circlecity
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To: blam; metmom; wideawake; x
Without a doubt, America is becoming a less "Christian" nation. This has staggering implications for the future of this country. The United States was founded primarily by Christians that were seeking to escape religious persecution. For those early settlers, the Christian faith was the very center of their lives, and it deeply affected the laws that they made and the governmental structures that they established. So what is the future of America going to look like if we totally reject the principles that this nation was founded on?

I once again point out this utterly utilitarian justification of religious belief.

The religious beliefs of the settlers and founders of the United States is an interesting historical fact (just as is the religious beliefs of the founders of all other countries), but it has nothing to do with what is the One True Religion.

Every single human being has the obligation to seek out, acknowledge, and obey the One True G-d. One does not do this by merely adhering to the religion of the founders of one's country (else there would be a different "one true religion" for every nation on earth!).

George Washington was a great man, but he did not create the universe. Seek out the True G-d, and you can't do that by merely seeking to share George Washington's religious beliefs.

22 posted on 01/19/2012 8:48:09 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: asinclair

Blam,

those doing the wrong things you witnessed will have to answer for their actions. You can’t control those, you have to answer for yours though and the Word clearly tells Christians to gather and attend church. The hypocrites will indeed answer for their actions but don’t let them drag you down as well.

You see the wrongs, fight the good fight to expose and right the wrongs. You dropping out speaks to the great falling away.

We are witnessing the great falling away and even more so the persecution of Christians that Christ spoke off. It will get worse as evil continues to infest our society. Eventually society will break down and the law of the jungle will apply.


23 posted on 01/19/2012 8:53:50 AM PST by sarge83
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To: blam

As more churches water down Theology and its application to daily life, more people conclude there is no point in going to church, just to be told “you can make it up as you go along”.

The liberal “Catholic” church, 1 mile from me, is medium size and never more than half full.

The Traditional Catholic church, 5 miles from me, is very large and always full to overflowing!
People are thirsty for the Truth!


24 posted on 01/19/2012 8:58:19 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: blam; wagglebee; little jeremiah; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; Gordon Greene; ...

ping


25 posted on 01/19/2012 9:02:34 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: circlecity

“we can be confident that modern Bibles are over 95% accurate and true to the original writings.”

Nah...Protestant Bibles contain more than 5% error, compared to the Catholic Bible they watered down.
When you add to that, the notion that the Holy Spirit reveals different interpretations, to each of us individually, the compounded error rate is astounding.


26 posted on 01/19/2012 9:04:44 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: blam; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ...

Excellent article and I agree with the removing children from public schools.

Those who advocate that Christians should stay in them and try to fix them have been proved wrong. It’s been decades that the public education system has been broken and all the efforts to fix it has failed.

That’s why people have turned to homeschooling. It’s the only way to protect your children from what this article is addressing since the public schools have become the indoctrination arm of the secular state.


27 posted on 01/19/2012 9:09:44 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: G Larry
"Nah...Protestant Bibles contain more than 5% error, compared to the Catholic Bible they watered down."

No they don't. Please give an example of the error you cite. I would also note Protestant translations are based on ancient Greek texts (over 6,000) and not a 5th Century Latin tranaslation.

28 posted on 01/19/2012 9:11:46 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Let's also acknowledge that the United States was absolutely not "founded primarily by Christians that were seeking to escape religious persecution."

Of the thirteen original colonies, only two - Massachusetts and Rhode Island - had any religious component to their founding.

The other eleven were founded for commercial and political reasons.

Of the two with a religious component one - Rhode Island - was founded by settlers fleeing from the religious persecution visited upon them by the settlers of the Massachusetts colonies.

And the persecutors who ran the Massachusetts colonies were actually a minority of the colonists - they had the land patents, but most of the settlers were recruited from a variety of Englishmen seeking their fortunes, not people motivated by a particular sect.

99% of the first generation of permanent American colonists were there for commerce, not theology.

29 posted on 01/19/2012 9:12:18 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Steamburg

Ironic too, isn’t it? that churches turned to Worship Teams, bands, and Praise songs while abandoning convictive preaching. The result was to drive away elderly people to cater to the young. It sounds as though that didn’t work.


30 posted on 01/19/2012 9:12:18 AM PST by suzyjaruki (God is already in my tomorrow, waiting for me.)
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To: metmom

Thanks for the ping!


31 posted on 01/19/2012 9:12:18 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Steamburg

Ironic too, isn’t it? that churches turned to Worship Teams, bands, and Praise songs while abandoning convictive preaching. The result was to drive away elderly people to cater to the young. It sounds as though that didn’t work.


32 posted on 01/19/2012 9:12:26 AM PST by suzyjaruki (God is already in my tomorrow, waiting for me.)
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To: brownsfan

bttt


33 posted on 01/19/2012 9:14:16 AM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: blam; Zionist Conspirator

As we abandon Christianity, we are looking at the atheistic regimes of the 20th century as our future.

Those who think that we can establish a non-Christian culture that will remain free and just are fooling themselves. Our being mostly secular and still reasonably successful is not proof that secular or atheistic works.

The only reason that this country is still in decent shape is that we’re still riding on the coat tails of the Judeo-Christian heritage it was built on.

Once that erodes, we’re screwed.


34 posted on 01/19/2012 9:15:17 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: blam
How Will The Shocking Decline Of Christianity In America
Affect The Future Of This Nation?

After years of pagan idolatry, YHvH allowed the hedge
of protection to be lowered and the nation of Israel
was attacked by the Assyrians.

On September 11, 2001, YHvH allowed a breach in our hedge of protection.
The following day, Democrat Tom Daschle called down a curse on America.
On September 11, 2004, Democrat John Edwards repeated the curse on America.
On February 24, 2009 Democrat Barack Hussein Obama repeated the curse for the third time.
(Matthew 18:16; 2 Cr 13:1; Deu 19:15 & Amos 3:12)

The stock market fell 7% on Sept 17, 2001
( 29 day of the month of Elul)

Seven years later on the 29th of Elul,
it fell again 7 %
At the end of each Sabbatical year,
all debts are made worthless.

Seven years after the attack on September 11, 2001,
We elected a man to lead this country whose
whole persona is built on lies.

In 721 BCE, the walls of Israel were breached.
The nation's leaders with pride and in arrogance
of heart cursed YHvH.
See Isaiah 9:10.

Isaiah 9:9 .....Asserting in pride and in arrogance of heart:

Isaiah 9:10 "The bricks have fallen down,
But we will rebuild with smooth stones;

The sycamores have been cut down,
But we will replace them with cedars."

This nation was dedicated in St Paul's chapel
located at the corner of Ground Zero.
The Sycamore tree at St Paul's chapel
was destroyed by a steel beam from
the World Trade Center.

The New York Stock Exchange was
chartered under a Sycamore tree.

Ten years later the nation of Israel was attacked
and overrun by the Assyrians.
Half the nation was captured
and taken off to imprisonment.

I love metaphors;
they teach those who have ears to hear.
For more information buy the book Harbinger
by Jonathan Cahn

if my people,
who are called by my name,
shall humble themselves,
and pray, and seek my face,
and turn from their wicked ways;
then will I hear from heaven,
and will forgive their sin,
and will heal their land.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
35 posted on 01/19/2012 9:17:18 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; metmom
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36 posted on 01/19/2012 9:20:13 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: brownsfan
And the whole clergy pedophilia and cover up did very serious damage to all of Christianity.

Not to mention the "holy wars" of the late 80's. That was a shot heard around the world if there ever was one.

37 posted on 01/19/2012 9:21:06 AM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: asinclair

I am convinced that *churchianity* is the biggest detriment to Christianity that this world has seen.

The strongest and most mature Christians I know are those for whom church is optional.

I am also convinced that the church in the book of Acts would not even recognize what is called church today.

I too, am disgusted by much of what I see going on in churches today and can understand where you’re coming from.


38 posted on 01/19/2012 9:24:28 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

People who worship the dollar when they could home school their children will pay an enormous price.


39 posted on 01/19/2012 9:25:56 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: metmom
the public schools have become the indoctrination arm of the secular state.

Additionally every low-life that can squeeze their agenda into the equation to further damage the minds of our children. It isn't about the children at all..it's about changing this society to something which is an outright offense to all that's good. There is no discerning good and evil now....it's reversed and successfully so.

40 posted on 01/19/2012 9:25:56 AM PST by caww
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