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Obama argues against appearing at eligibility hearing (says GA has NO role in eligibility)
World Net Daily ^ | January 18, 2012 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/19/2012 7:23:55 AM PST by Seizethecarp

Barack Obama has outlined a defense strategy for a multitude of state-level challenges to his candidacy on the 2012 presidential ballot in a Georgia case that is scheduled to come before a judge later this month – simply explain that states have nothing to do with the eligibility of presidential candidates.

“Presidential electors and Congress, not the state of Georgia, hold the constitutional responsibility for determining the qualifications of presidential candidates,” Obama’s lawyer argues in a motion to quash a subpoena for him to appear at the hearings Jan. 26.

“The election of President Obama by the presidential electors, confirmed by Congress, makes the documents and testimony sought by plaintiff irrelevant,” the lawyer said.

Hearing have been scheduled for that date for three separate issues to be handled. They all are raised by Georgia residents who are challenging Obama’s name on the 2012 ballot for various reasons, which they are allowed to do under state law.

It is states, usually through the office of secretary of state, that run elections, not the federal government. The national election is simply a compilation of the results of the individual elections within states.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ballot; certifigate; ga; naturalborncitizen; obama; orlytaitz; usurper
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Obama tries to kick the states to the curb again. Claims that he was already determined to be eligible by the electors and Congress in the last election. Stay tuned!
1 posted on 01/19/2012 7:24:04 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: LucyT

ping...

Obama says states can pound sand on eligibility...again.


2 posted on 01/19/2012 7:25:31 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Kind of like voting, “present”?


3 posted on 01/19/2012 7:25:51 AM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Seizethecarp

The individual electors have the responsibility? So someone tagged to be in the Electoral College can say no, not this guy, he’s not eligible?

What an interesting can of worms that opens!


4 posted on 01/19/2012 7:28:02 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Admin Moderator

Please change title to say “GA has NO role in eligibility”

thanks...


5 posted on 01/19/2012 7:29:21 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: DBrow
Of course the democrat Electors chosen are the most trustworthy apparatchiks.
6 posted on 01/19/2012 7:30:56 AM PST by AU72
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To: DBrow

This has been the shell game all along,
anyone that has brought the topic up has been kicked out of court for “lack of standing”.

The electors definitely should have “standing” to demand proof of eligibility.


7 posted on 01/19/2012 7:31:11 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Seizethecarp
"The election of President Obama by the presidential electors"

I'm not an ambulance-chaser, but it seems to me that "The Electors" are CHOSEN by the States, and their "choice" is a voting issue at the State Level. If a State MUST CERTIFY the Election Results, then they, in effect, can determine a Legally Cast Vote, for an ELIGIBLE Candidate. That "Eligibility" is NOT the responsibility of any Party, but rather, rests with the USSC and Case Law regarding "Natural Born Citizens", which has held that born of a U.S. Citizen mother and U.S. Citizen father are REQUIRED to be "Natural Born".

In the end, it may come down to him having to admit that SOMEONE OTHER THAN Barack Hussein Obama Sr., and could be Frank Marshall Davis, or some other black "partner" to the white woman.

8 posted on 01/19/2012 7:31:26 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: Seizethecarp

Geez... you would think it would be easier to just show his birth certificate...


9 posted on 01/19/2012 7:32:21 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Seizethecarp

Fraud and a coward. And screw the Constitution, and the rule of law, as always.


10 posted on 01/19/2012 7:32:21 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Seizethecarp
Yeah, but states get to make the rules on who gets on their ballot.

In fact, they could choose their electors by lottery if they want.

Another non sequitor from the Obama admin.

11 posted on 01/19/2012 7:32:32 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: DBrow

This is what his lawyers have been arguing in the courts all along. And the federal courts have bought into it. Its a flaw in the Constitution that he’s taken advantage of.

An electoral college is never going to disqualify the winner of a Presidential election because the majority of that body is already committed to vote the winner in.


12 posted on 01/19/2012 7:33:16 AM PST by chopperman
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To: Seizethecarp

Will be funny if he tries to run as a write in candidate when he isn’t on the ballot.


13 posted on 01/19/2012 7:33:20 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: traditional1

Wonder IF it will ever happen in my lifetime? I think not. I think he will eventually or historians will have to say he wasn’t a NBC or Obama Sr. was NOT his Daddy.


14 posted on 01/19/2012 7:37:36 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Gingrich/West 2012)
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To: Seizethecarp

The Orly Circus is setting up tents in Georgia. Fun for the whole family.


15 posted on 01/19/2012 7:39:14 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Seizethecarp
So why have the party nominees historically been certified to the Secretaries of State as being Constitutionally eligible to assume the office of President?

ML/NJ

16 posted on 01/19/2012 7:41:23 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: DBrow
Not quite. Article II Section 1: "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number or Senators and Representatives . . . "

Check your online state election law. In my state of FL, the law assumes candidates of the political parties are eligible. FWIW, in most States, George Washington was elected by direct votes from State legislators.

The following from Obama's lawyers is pure bull: Presidential electors and Congress, not the state of Georgia, hold the constitutional responsibility for determining the qualifications of presidential candidates

17 posted on 01/19/2012 7:44:49 AM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: DBrow

I thought the Electoral College would straighten it out in 2008 but no one had any courage


18 posted on 01/19/2012 7:48:41 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Who, besides anyone without blinders on,

would have guessed that dark skin would be a scrutiny shield?


19 posted on 01/19/2012 7:51:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ml/nj
Because your state law, like mine in FL, probably assumes the candidates are eligible.

GA apparently does not. Good on ‘em.

By Article II, any State by its law could require all nominees to prove eligibility and there isn't a Constitutional thing any federal judge or administration thug could legally do about it.

20 posted on 01/19/2012 7:52:07 AM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Emperor Obama has no clothes. If I were the judge, this whole line of defense would make me curious why ‘the lady doth protest too much’.


21 posted on 01/19/2012 7:52:49 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Seizethecarp
The US Congress is what needs fixing.

It was Congress that screwed America's greatest hero over ... leading to his departure from America.

22 posted on 01/19/2012 7:53:10 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: Seizethecarp

The jack booted thugs strike again.


23 posted on 01/19/2012 7:53:10 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man; LucyT
“The Orly Circus is setting up tents in Georgia. Fun for the whole family.”

Taitz has brought only one of the three separated cases that will each have their own hearing on Jan 26.

It would appear that there is zero chance that Obama would be compelled to appear...because by simply having his attorney enter into the court record a certified copy of his HI LFBC that matter could be put to rest.

Yet Obama’s attorney says that rather than perform that obvious simple legal administrative act...he is only directing the court to look to the White House pdf image “made available” to the public on the web.

Obama’s attorney is, in effect, admitting what we all know which is that Obama has NEVER submitted a certified copy of either a long form or short form HI BC to any court. Obama has repeatedly put layers of legal distance between his White House pdf and HI DOH and distance between Obama personally and the White House pdf. Obama’s attorney wouldn't even let Obama hold the thing at the April 27 press conference and said so!!!

Gee...now why would that be???

24 posted on 01/19/2012 7:53:53 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

What about the fraudulent Documents of Certification Nancy Pelosi and Alice Travis Germond- Sec. of the DNC are responsible for?
Have those subpoenaed-—Were the electors in each state mislead by them?

“DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF HAWAII REMOVED REQUIRED ELIGIBILITY WORDING USED IN 2004 AND 2000”

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/11/19/hawaii-elections-office-releases-nomination-certificates-requested-four-months-ago/


25 posted on 01/19/2012 7:56:44 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Seizethecarp
I got no problem with what Van Irion is trying to accomplish.

Orly's conspiracy nuttery is embarrassing.

26 posted on 01/19/2012 7:59:14 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: MrB

minorities and gays are the cool ones now, the rest of us are total dorks who need to be mistreated


27 posted on 01/19/2012 7:59:35 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Seizethecarp

I believe the case in Ga. is based upon Obama not being a Natural Born citizen.

Obama has no case because he isn’t a NBC.

There is no way Obama can win so he chooses to write off Ga.


28 posted on 01/19/2012 8:03:47 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Seizethecarp

What a joke. He claims to be too busy performing the duties of the president of the United States. How many days of vacation has he taken? How many rounds of golf? If he is too busy to provide the documents that provide the basis for meeting the requirements of the office, then perhaps he better sit out the next four years,


29 posted on 01/19/2012 8:05:47 AM PST by LC Gladiator (Barack Obama is a malevolent Marxist cockroach and a foul festering pustule on the hide of America.)
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To: Mr. K
Geez... you would think it would be easier to just show his birth certificate...

He dare not. It would "hang" him.

30 posted on 01/19/2012 8:05:52 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Mr. K

Yes, it would be easier to show a physical copy of the alleged birth certificate(s) in court. It’s a very standard document that is considered self-authenticating, but that’ only if it can be inspected personally. There’s probably a good reason why Obama is fighting this, and that reason is to cover up fraud.


31 posted on 01/19/2012 8:06:10 AM PST by edge919
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To: traditional1
In the end, it may come down to him having to admit that SOMEONE OTHER THAN Barack Hussein Obama Sr., and could be Frank Marshall Davis, or some other black "partner" to the white woman.

That would be devastating, because it would be an admission that the released Hawaiian "birth certificate" was a lie promoted to the public.

32 posted on 01/19/2012 8:09:31 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: traditional1; Spaulding; Danae; rxsid; LucyT; Red Steel; Kenny Bunk
“In the end, it may come down to him having to admit that SOMEONE OTHER THAN Barack Hussein Obama Sr., and could be Frank Marshall Davis, or some other black “partner” to the white woman.”

Remember that the NY Times Corp reporter was allowed to issue the book “The Other Barack” (IIRC) in which INS docs the author had been withholding were revealed showing that BHO Sr. was a bigamous sexual predator who was kicked out of the US?

The BNA of 1948 does not allow UK citizenship to pass to the bastard children of bigamists in my reading. Neither does the Kenya Marriage Act recognize the alleged marriage of Obama's parents as a legal Muslim plural marriage. If Stanley Ann was legally single, my understanding of established international law is that Obama would ONLY have unitary US citizenship of his mother and no legal father and would certainly NOT be dual citizen UK subject in that case.

Obama would not meet the “two citizen” requirement of Minor v. Happersett, but more importantly he would not meet John Jay and George Washington's underlying concern regarding dual citizenship because Obama would have only US citizenship...provided that he was born in HI (Ha!)

Until the 1920's the citizenship of only one parent mattered, that being the father, because the citizenship of the wife was automatically changed to that of the husband. It could be argued that if a child only has one legal parent at birth, that being the mother, then that child would be a natural born citizen at birth if born on US soil. If Obama only had US citizenship at birth in HI, my expectation is that at least five justices on the Supreme Court would give Obama a Mulligan on his natural born citizenship eligibility...if it came to that.

33 posted on 01/19/2012 8:10:30 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Pearls Before Swine
"That would be devastating"

You know, as well as most common sense folks, that NOTHING could be devastating to The Messiah, as far as black voters are concerned (75% of them don't know WHO their father is).

He will still get the votes he always gets, from Progressives/parasites/minorities/and white-guilters.

34 posted on 01/19/2012 8:13:00 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: yldstrk
I thought the Electoral College would straighten it out in 2008 but no one had any courage

Not just a lack of courage, but a lack of Knowledge. The public (And that means the Electors) has a faulty understanding of "natural born citizen" status. They would not have thought to challenge it because they have a wrong understanding of what it means, and based on the very weak evidence Obama has submitted that he was born in Hawaii, they would not even think to question his credentials.

Apart from that, I don't believe Democrat electors give a D@mn about Law or Justice or Constitutional requirements, and I have no doubt they will overlook anything which disqualifies their candidate.

35 posted on 01/19/2012 8:14:54 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Seizethecarp
Sounds like a "gay" argument, in that it is biologically impossible NOT to have a father.

Therefore, the religious aspect is not an issue (whether the "marriage" was legal), and the plain language "born of a Citizen mother and Citizen father") eliminates "single parenthood", formerly known as "slut", "trollop", "tramp", etc.

36 posted on 01/19/2012 8:16:28 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: traditional1
Or the reason he wont release his BC is because his race is listed as ARAB!

So his baby daddy was one or another black man. So what.

His race listed as other than Negro would severely damage his plantation base vote!

37 posted on 01/19/2012 8:18:50 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: edge919
Not sure Obama has official provided his BC to anyone, just posted on the Internet.

I am not a lawyer, but if it is such a legit document -they put on coffee mugs, then what is the problem submitting it to a court. It seems to be the only conclusion. Avoid having it scrutinized and fraud.

38 posted on 01/19/2012 8:19:27 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Why not just exhume his supposed father for a quickie DNA sample?


39 posted on 01/19/2012 8:19:54 AM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
That would be devastating, because it would be an admission that the released Hawaiian "birth certificate" was a lie promoted to the public.

If the Judge is astute enough to demand an "original", and that Original deviates even slightly from what has been posted, the ramifications of it will have repercussions throughout the country. It will PROVE Obama lied about this affair, and it will result in people having second thoughts about their earlier dismissal of this issue.

It could very well create a political avalanche that might bury this @sshole. (And give some comeuppance to all those Republicans/conservatives who have pooh poohed the issue.)

40 posted on 01/19/2012 8:21:58 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Seizethecarp
Taitz has brought only one of the three separated cases that will each have their own hearing on Jan 26.

From Alinsky's Rules for Radicals:

Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

Ever notice how any discussion of an eligibility challenge suddenly becomes a discussion about Orly Taitz?

41 posted on 01/19/2012 8:26:36 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: traditional1
“Therefore, the religious aspect is not an issue (whether the “marriage” was legal), and the plain language “born of a Citizen mother and Citizen father”) eliminates “single parenthood”, formerly known as “slut”, “trollop”, “tramp”, etc.”

Whether a child has a legal father is not exclusively a religious question under established international law going back to the time of the founders.

It is a fact IIRC that absent a marriage of the mother, the child gets only the citizenship of the mother.

The explicit language of the 1948 BNA which does NOT grant UK citizenship to bastards is NOT based on religious marriage but legal marriage.

BHO Sr’s legal tribal marriage to Kezia in Kenya (a NON-Muslim marriage, BTW...all the children of that marriage were NOT raised Muslim.. but one converted as an adult) was publicly affirmed by BHO Sr. in his letters to Tom Mboya in the Stanford archive and effectively considered to be legally valid marriage by the US INS in file notations when they booted BHO Sr.

42 posted on 01/19/2012 8:28:22 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
“Presidential electors and Congress, not the state of Georgia, hold the constitutional responsibility for determining the qualifications of presidential candidates,” Obama’s lawyer argues in a motion to quash a subpoena for him to appear at the hearings Jan. 26.

This is a remarkably incompetant argument, if that is all that was offered. Georgia has every right to certify its electors and has every right to determine who can and cannot be on the ballot.

43 posted on 01/19/2012 8:30:08 AM PST by kidd
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To: Seizethecarp
But if that is the case, the fact that he was a bastard should have been made known to the American people prior to the election, and is in fact an attempt to defraud.

Apart from that, you are referring to his "legal" father. I do not recognize such legal hair splitting as legitimate. As far as I'm concerned, the father cannot be ignored, and the only father that matters is his real biological father.

If Obama's father is an American, (such as Frank Davis) then I will regard him as a "natural born citizen." If his biological father is the Kenyan (which I tend to doubt) then as far as i'm concerned he is NOT a "natural born citizen." ("Legal" father has nothing to do with "natural" father.)

Regardless, the man should not have been permitted to cover up the facts of his birth, and should have been required to be forthcoming prior to the election. The public had a right to know if he was really a bastard or not, and the successful effort to obfuscate this fact is a major fraud and ought to be punishable by prison.

44 posted on 01/19/2012 8:32:31 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Seizethecarp

Obama Has Lost!

You cannot refuse to testify in a civil suit without consequence. We're all too important and we're all too busy to bother attending a hearing where we are named as a Defendant. Tough luck!

The 5th Amendment gives a criminal defendant the right to refuse to testify against himself, but a civil suit defendant does not have that right.

If Obama does not show in Georgia to testify under oath, then Plaintiffs will receive a Default Judgment. If Obama were to show up in Georgia, then he would have to answer questions under oath that would incriminate him.

1) Where were born?
2) Have you ever been told by your parents or grandparents you were a citizen of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain?
3) Have you ever been issued a passport from Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain?
4) Did you attend Occidental College as a foreign national?
5) Do you have a Certificate of Naturalization on file with the USCIS?

Obama's only option is to claim lack of jurisdiction in the State of Georgia and appeal. Elections cost money. Georgia taxpayers have a right to confirm candidates on the ballot are eligible.


45 posted on 01/19/2012 8:39:33 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (PSALMS 37:28 For the LORD loves justice and does not abandon the faithful.)
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To: Seizethecarp

No problem; Barry will just dispatch the boys from Chicago to Georgia and put the head of a horse in a few beds tonight...


46 posted on 01/19/2012 8:52:54 AM PST by MichaelCorleone
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To: DiogenesLamp
“Apart from that, you are referring to his “legal” father. I do not recognize such legal hair splitting as legitimate. As far as I'm concerned, the father cannot be ignored, and the only father that matters is his real biological father.”

Prior to the advent of DNA, in human history the identification of the biological father depended on the sometimes highly suspect claims if the mother...augmented hopefully by resemblance in many cases, of course.

From colonial times up until very recently it is ONLY the LEGAL father that matters in determining citizenship of the baby.

Your own personal opinion or mine cannot overturn well established international law going back to the founding.

Minor v. Happersett distinguishes between NBC birth and birth to aliens, but if there is no LEGAL alien parent there can be no alien citizenship or legal citizenship conflict.

As has been frequently mentioned there is not even a marriage document for Obama’s parents, bigamous or not and Stanley Ann's representations as to who the did is are suspect and do not in any way bind the UK.

47 posted on 01/19/2012 8:55:37 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: opentalk
I am not a lawyer, but if it is such a legit document -they put on coffee mugs, then what is the problem submitting it to a court. It seems to be the only conclusion. Avoid having it scrutinized and fraud.

This same question occurred to me. Obama supposably has TWO hard copies of his alleged birth certificate. The lawyer should have submitted one of those copies WITH the motino to quash. If they were worried about getting it back, then they simply submit it with a SASE. The motion says it was widely available, except in this instance, they don't want to make it availabel at all. Wasn't that the reason Obama asked for TWO copies??

48 posted on 01/19/2012 8:59:14 AM PST by edge919
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Did you mention conspiracies?

•  On February 22, 2006, an associate attorney in a Chicago-based firm whose partner served on the finance committee for then Sen. Barack Obama wrote a paper that advocated for the elimination of the U.S. Constitution's "natural-born" citizen requirement, calling the requirement "stupid" and asserting it was discriminatory, outdated and undemocratic.
      
•  On November 27, 2007, US congressman Eni Faleomavaega (D - Samoa) checked into the Sheraton in Jakarta, Indonesia. In a meeting with Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, Faleomavaega asked to travel to Obama's childhood school. According to Southest Asian sources, "officials" who accompanied Faleomavaega were interested in acquiring any and all documentation or photographs of a young Barry Soetoro for America's "national archives" and they were offering cash, lots of it. In a "show of faith," Barack Obama's childhood school was one of the very first beneficiaries of this outpouring receiving thousands of dollars to upgrade the school and for the purchase of computer equipment. The challenge of course was securing Indonesian government records potentially damaging to Barack Obama's candidacy for the U. S. presidency as well as other records pertaining to a young Barry Soetoro and his family.

•  On February 28, 2008, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduced a bill to the Senate for consideration. That bill was known as "S. 2678: Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act." The bill was co-sponsored by Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), and Sen. Thomas Coburn (R-OK). The bill attempted to change Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States with reference to the requirements of being a "natural born citizen."

•  On March 21, 2008 Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, headed a firm that was cited in March for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office. Sources who tracked the investigation say that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to "cauterize" the records of potentially embarrassing information. "They looked at the McCain and Clinton files as well to create confusion," one knowledgeable source said. "But this was basically an attempt to cauterize the Obama file." At the time of the breach, Brennan was working as an unpaid adviser to the Obama campaign. The passport files include "personally identifiable information such as the applicant’s name, gender, social security number, date and place of birth, and passport number," according to the inspector general report. The files may contain additional information including "original copies of the associated documents," the report added. Such documents include birth certificates, naturalization certificates, or oaths of allegiance for U.S.-born persons who adopted the citizenship of a foreign country as minors. The State Department Office of Inspector General (OIG) issued a 104-page report on the breach. Although it is stamped "Sensitive but Unclassified," the report was heavily redacted in the version released to the public, with page after page blacked out entirely."

•   On April 10, 2008, Sens. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduced a resolution expressing the sense of the U.S. Senate that presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was a "natural born" Citizen, as specified in the Constitution and eligible to run for president. Sen. McCaskill knew Obama was not a U.S. Citizen, that’s why she introduced this bill -- dressing it up to look like it was in Sen. John McCain's cause -- and achieving the goal of compromising the Republican candidate, who was, in fact, ineligible.

•   On June 12, 2008, the Daily Kos posted the now-infamous image of Obama's first counterfeit birth document, the "Certification of Live Birth" along with a cover story.

•  On July 22, 2008, a birth announcement was discovered in the Honolulu public library. The microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday Advertiser, "Births, Marriages, Death" section, dated August 13, 1961, read, "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4." It does not list the hospital or the doctor in attendance. The problem is, Thelma Jones Lefforge owned and occupied the house at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway until she conveniently died 10 days before the birth announcement showed up. The "Obamas" never lived there, as attested to by the neighbor. As a matter of fact, there is no evidence that they ever lived together anywhere, at any time.

•  On August 21, 2008, the Annenberg Public Policy Center website, FactCheck.org, published a web page entitled, "Born in the U.S.A. -- The truth about Obama's birth certificate." The article states that FactCheck.org staffers had seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate, which it wasn't. They further concluded that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship, while knowing the issue was eligibility, not citizenship -- which it doesn't.

•  On August 27, 2008, the Democratic Party of Hawaii, the Democratic National Committee, the Chair of the Party convention, the Secretary of the Party, and probably many, many more, knowingly and wantonly defrauded the American electoral system and more than 300 million American citizens by filing fraudulent "Official Certification of Nomination" papers for Barack Obama and Joe Biden in all 50 states.

•  On October 23, 2008, in accordance with the existing Hawaiian Law Revised Statutes 11-113, and, as a result of mediation by Kevin B. Cronin, Senior Elections Officer, candidate Obama was officially approved for placement on the state’s ballot even though the state party's vetting authority refused to certify the legal qualifications of candidate Obama, because his nominating papers omitted the phrase, "...are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution," and read instead, "...legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the national Democratic Parties."

•  On October 24, 2008, Hawaii's Republican Governor, Linda Lingle, a senior member of John McCain's election committee, placed Obama's birth certificate under seal, and instructed the state's Department of Health to make sure no one in the press obtains access to the original document under any circumstances.

•  On April 3, 2009 Jack Maskell, the Legislative Attorney, American Law Division of the Congressional Research Service, wrote a memorandum, "Qualifications for the Office of the President of the United States and Legal Challenges to the Eligibility of a Candidate," that improperly states the origins, evolution and Supreme Court case-law related to the Constitution's "natural born" citizen requirement, but the document provides cover for members of the U. S. Congress, who refuse to address the issue of Obama's eligibility to serve as POTUS.

•  On June 17, 2009, the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands which had stated on their website that the Hawaiian "Certification of Live Birth" (COLB) the Obama Campaign posted on the Internet as proof of Obama's eligibility would NOT be accepted for eligibility for some Hawaiian state government programs (page 1, page 2, page 3), changed the language of their website to read, "The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because they are official government records documenting an individual’s birth." 
         
•   On July 21, 2009, Trevor Potter and other lawyers for Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign said that they did look into the Obama citizenship rumors and found them without merit.
   
On April 27, 2011, in the final act of this conspiracy, Team Obama posted an electronic image of a document that they claimed was Barack Obama's original, long-form birth certificate. It isn't. The electronic image was produced and manipulated using Adobe software products and states right in the registrar's certification that it is an abstract of a text record -- right above the taunting "smiley face."
   
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49 posted on 01/19/2012 9:06:07 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Obama should Testify or Resign

Clinton v. Jones, 520 U.S. 681 (1997), was a US SCOTUS opinion establishing that a sitting President of the United States has no immunity from civil law litigation against him, for acts done before taking office and unrelated to the office.
50 posted on 01/19/2012 9:07:28 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (PSALMS 37:28 For the LORD loves justice and does not abandon the faithful.)
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