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Live Thread: Perry Press Conference [Endorses Newt]
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Posted on 01/19/2012 8:14:02 AM PST by KansasGirl

Waiting on Perry to take podium any moment! He will endorse Newt!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012gopprimary; gingrich; newt; newtgingrich; perry; perry2012; perrydropsout; perrydropsoutofrace; perryquitsgopprimary; sc2012; scprimary; theend
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To: Coldwater Creek

Is it possible that maybe he found Christ through the Catholic church and his old church wasn’t working for him? Perhaps his past transgreesions are in the past and he is not the same man as Newt the audulterer? You can see the light and find God other than through an evangelical conversion. In fact, as a Catholic by blood myself, I have found those who entered the Church through conversion generally are much more religious than those like myself who were brought up in it. The process of becoming a Catholic is not easy either.

Afterall, he hasn’t had a personal scandal in what, 18 years?


101 posted on 01/19/2012 9:05:59 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: MestaMachine
"Still, Perry is Trxas. It is one of the most unique states I have ever been in and I love it. I think Perry loves it far more than I do and DC would just drain him. I would hate to see that happen."

Yet he was willing to put himself out there for all of us. Thank you Governor Perry.

102 posted on 01/19/2012 9:06:42 AM PST by maxter (We cannot let freedom fade under our watch.)
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To: sissyjane
Maybe I haven't paid close enough attention, but when and to whom did Newt ask for forgiveness?

I am more than willing to forgive one who is repentant, but I haven't seen that from Newt.......and I've seen a lot of him.

If you have a link or quote to indicate that what he did was sin, I'd like to see it.

I'm serious. The moral infidelity is a BIG problem for me when I look at a presidential candidate. It goes to character, commitment and honor, and I can't let it slide.

103 posted on 01/19/2012 9:07:05 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: KansasGirl

Full text Perry’s remarks:

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2012/01/perry_dropping_out_says_only_b.html


104 posted on 01/19/2012 9:07:05 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: ohioWfan

What morality would there be in allowing mitt romney to steal the nomination, or obama getting reelected? We would lose our country once and for all. Sometims G-d gives you choices and always the chance for redemption. If Newt can save this country, it would be absolutely IMMORAL to judge what only G-d can judge while kissing our country goodbye out of a misplaced sense of moral superiority.
Paul was a sinner. He was forgiven. Newt has done far, far less.


105 posted on 01/19/2012 9:07:34 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: KansasGirl
FNC now doing their best to limit the impact this will have in helping Newt! Spin says it’s meaningless because his poll numbers are low anyway.

Perry may not have too many followers left, but he took some shots at ABC and at Romney, and made a huge moral commitment to Gingrich, and that was a big deal. Perry didn't have to do that - he could have given his resignation speech and said nothing endorsing anybody.

Funny that CNN of all places is saying that Perry talking about forgiveness was huge for Newt while Fox News is downplaying Perry's endorsement.
106 posted on 01/19/2012 9:07:43 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: MrEdd

It is today....history is history. Perry bowed out with honor and grace and deserves the praise he’s being given for doing so in such a manner.

You are wrong to imagine he wasn’t ever in the game...his supporters proved otherwise. We all fight for our candidate and they did likewise.

No need to be bitter...Perry can be admired for this decision...he did it right and honorable.


107 posted on 01/19/2012 9:07:43 AM PST by caww
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To: NoDRodee
what will happen to Perry’s vote from SC absentee’s that already voted or does SC have absentee vote in primary? If it Romney wins within difference of Perry’s vote can they give electorial to Newt?

Any votes for Perry will still count for Perry. If he gets enough to earn delegates (unlikely, given SC's system), he can request that the pledge to vote for Gingrich, or he can release them to vote as they will. Same as any delegates he may have picked up in Iowa and New Hampshire.

108 posted on 01/19/2012 9:08:25 AM PST by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Out of the three that you listed, I like Ted Cruz the most.


Polls that I’ve seen have Cruz in 2nd place a ways down but gaining. I expect that will change as they proceed to the Apr primary. Dewhurst has better state recognition due to his tenure as Lt. Gov., imo.


109 posted on 01/19/2012 9:09:14 AM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

YES! And—AMEN!


110 posted on 01/19/2012 9:09:48 AM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: Kenny

I like Perry’s flat tax proposal and his whole reform platform. I hope Newt adopts it. Perry has a lot of good ideas sorely needed to help the country.


111 posted on 01/19/2012 9:10:28 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Recovering_Democrat
i really hope he does get their endorsement not just their vote..

With those intelligent American loving men that would be great..

112 posted on 01/19/2012 9:11:49 AM PST by PLD
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To: MestaMachine
What morality would there be in allowing mitt romney to steal the nomination, or obama getting reelected?

That is not at all the point.

When I am voting in a PRIMARY, moral character is a huge consideration for me.

I'll ask you the same question, because I have a limited amount of time to spend on politics.....

Do you have a link to a source where Newt has been repentant and acknowledged that his moral failings are behind him? Where he has asked God for forgiveness through Jesus Christ?

It may be a small matter to others on FR, but it's not to me.

I'm not looking for perfection, but I am looking for, ideally, humility before a Sovereign Lord.

113 posted on 01/19/2012 9:12:32 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Coldwater Creek

I understand your conundrum. I wish there were better options.

It does give me pause, though, to think that God gave Israel exactly what she needed (the humbling of exile) through the utterly godless Assyrians. And he called David - an adulterer and murderer - a “man after His own heart”. The time had “fully come” for the Christ to be born under the peace brought about by Caesar Augustus, who believed himself to be a god. And though Samson ended as a blind slave because he gave away his secrets for fornication, God restored his strength and brought down the pillars of the Dagon-worshiping king through Samson’s self-sacrifice. Jesus said that if His believers would not have cried out on His entry into Jerusalem, the very stones would have. And Balaam received the word of God through the speaking of an ass. The two women mentioned in the earthly genealogy of Christ had both acted as prostitutes.

It is the glory of God to use clay pots, to show that the transcendent power comes from Him alone.

All things considered, I think God can use even Newt to bring the rule of law back to this country. And that is God’s purpose for worldly government.


114 posted on 01/19/2012 9:13:40 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: CatherineofAragon
some of the most egregious offenders will now gush over Perry and thank him for his endorsement.

Of course..it's A Primary election...round by round...and Perry has determined his last round and ended it admirably. No denying that. Now he'll go back to being the Governor he loves to be. He's lost nothing and Texans gained the man they admire. Good ending...

115 posted on 01/19/2012 9:13:40 AM PST by caww
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To: af_vet_rr

Thanks for your excellent insights—sure is good news! And—God bless Governor Perry!


116 posted on 01/19/2012 9:13:59 AM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: KansasGirl
This is big. I mean b i g as in B i g !

Expected but… well… B I G

…and should add the endorsements of The Nuge, Sheriff Joe, Jindal, Forbes, Inhofe, Brownback and maybe get DeMint off the fence.

BIG!!!

How much good news can Mitt and the established GOP handle in one day?
First they lost Iowa now this!!!

What a perfect time for LTC (Ret) Rep. Allen West (FL-22) to announce he is open to a Veep slot!

I'm lovin' me some Cabinet Level Rick Perry and Texas!

Damn, I love it when a plan comes together…

Did I mention it was BIG!???

117 posted on 01/19/2012 9:14:14 AM PST by bksanders (Taglines - BOGO@www.tagme.com)
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To: ohioWfan
So none of your friends are divorced? And you constantly remind them how immoral they are? And of course, you never have them over for dinner.

Numerous members of my family have had affairs. Some divorced. Some didn't. The divorced ones remarried...happily.

118 posted on 01/19/2012 9:16:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: deport

I agree with you on the name recognition point. One of the local readio stations had an interview with Cruz this morning and I listened to some of the interview as i drove to work. I was quite impressed with what I heard.


119 posted on 01/19/2012 9:17:01 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: newzjunkey

DRUDGE could not be more obvious with his Romney bias! Apparently, he finds ABC’s old news sleazy interview with Newt’s bitter ex-wife much more newsworthy than Perry’s endorsement of Newt! Have you taken a look at his page lately?! Geesh!


120 posted on 01/19/2012 9:17:11 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: maxter
It is one of the most unique states I have ever been in and I love it...

A New Yorker was a veyr religious type. Once he retired he decided to visit a church in every state in America.

As he went from state-to-state he noticed a phone in the back of some churches. By the phone was a sign that said "Call Heaven - $10 Dollars A Call".

The man visited every state. From New York to California. After many months and many churches he finished his trip in Galveston, Texas. At a beautiful church. But something was different about this church. He once again saw the phone in the back of the church and the sign. But this sign was different. It said "Call Heaven - $.10 cents".

He sought the preacher out in the Texas church and said to the preacher "I have been all over America and in every church the call to Heaven is $10.00 but your sign says it is only $.10 cents. Why is that?"

The preacher looked at the traveler from New York and chuckled. Then he replied "My son, the reason is simple, in Texas the call to Heaven is a local call".

121 posted on 01/19/2012 9:17:18 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: ohioWfan
The moral infidelity is a BIG problem for me when I look at a presidential candidate. It goes to character, commitment and honor, and I can't let it slide.

Just so you have the right perspective concerning Newt:

“Jacob was a cheater, Peter had a temper, David had an affair, Noah got drunk, Jonah ran from God, Paul was a murderer, Gideon was insecure, Miriam was a gossiper, Martha was a worrier, Thomas was a doubter, Elijah was moody, Moses stuttered, Zaccheus was short, Abraham was old, Lazarus was dead....”

God doesn’t call the qualified, He qualifies the CALLED!

Here's a Pastor's perspective which might be helpful for you:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2822096/posts

122 posted on 01/19/2012 9:19:24 AM PST by caww
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To: af_vet_rr

This was inevitable, as Perry wasn’t getting traction.

I’m not surprised he endorsed Gingrich. If Gingrich had fallen, I’d have expected him to endorse Perry, they seem to have a good relationship.

Interesting that Perry immediately endorsed Gingrich, while Cain could never bring himself to do so, even though Cain was supposedly so respectful of Newt.

And I do think it will help Gingrich a lot, not because Perry has a large base of people to throw his way, but because I think a lot of the Gingrich folks would have been Perry folks otherwise, and Perry will help Gingrich keep them through the recent news.

Still not sure Gingrich will survive, or even win South Carolina, but this makes both more likely.

I feel bad for Santorum, because he won Iowa and he didn’t get credit for it on election night because of the counting errors, and he won’t get credit for it now because the news came out on a bad news day for him.


123 posted on 01/19/2012 9:24:19 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Kenny

Free Republic has honestly examined the strengths and weaknesses of very candidate and although it is a painful process for supporters, it has been good for the process.

Some people can handle this vetting better than others because some can not face flaws being exposed in the candidates they support. To them, the person has to be perfect...and that is impossible. The lessor of two evils is as much a promise in politics as is the natural law of imperfect men.


124 posted on 01/19/2012 9:24:25 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Sacajaweau
So none of your friends are divorced?

I'm sorry, but that's a nonsensical, irrelevant question.

125 posted on 01/19/2012 9:25:00 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: KansasGirl

Perry just couldn’t get any traction.

It is good that he is bowing out.

I honestly do no think Gingrich can win the general election. But, if he becomes the nominee, he needs our support to get rid of Obama — and getting rid of Obama will be no easy task. Gingrich would be my next-to-last choice, with Romney being my last choice.

If Santorum doesn’t come in #1 or #2 in SC, he is the next one who needs to consider withdrawing.

I am with that 65% in IA who said they would prefer ‘other’, but ‘other’ is not a real option.


126 posted on 01/19/2012 9:25:00 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: bksanders
And HUGE (not hugh, seriesly!:)

And for me--a real answer to prayer.

Sometimes I fantasize about a voice from heaven shouting to the "bride of Christ": "Honey, you've shrunk your God."

127 posted on 01/19/2012 9:25:33 AM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: KansasGirl

Wow, a lot to catch up on this morning. Thank you, Governor Perry! I was a huge supporter when he first announced, and am now a Newt supporter. Would love to see Perry president after Newt serves his two terms.


128 posted on 01/19/2012 9:26:27 AM PST by Proudcongal
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To: KansasGirl

A gracious speech from the heart and a perfectly worded endorsement for Gingrich. Perry’s love of the US and deep concern for our future is obvious and weighed heavily, I believe, in his timing to drop out today and to endorse Newt.

I will miss his relentless championing of states’ rights as the antidote to an out-of-control Federal government.


129 posted on 01/19/2012 9:27:49 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: caww
Have you seen the questions I've asked, caww?

You know that I know Scripture, and know that God uses sinners. That has not been my point.

My question is whether or not Newt has changed his ways, recognizing that what he did was sin. If you have quotes or links where that has been addressed, please provide them.

(Peter's temper and Moses' stuttering are not quite the same thing, ya think?)

130 posted on 01/19/2012 9:28:52 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: KansasGirl

Perry just couldn’t get any traction.

It is good that he is bowing out.

I honestly do no think Gingrich can win the general election. But, if he becomes the nominee, he needs our support to get rid of Obama — and getting rid of Obama will be no easy task. Gingrich would be my next-to-last choice, with Romney being my last choice.

If Santorum doesn’t come in #1 or #2 in SC, he is the next one who needs to consider withdrawing.

I am with that 65% in IA who said they would prefer ‘other’, but ‘other’ is not a real option.


131 posted on 01/19/2012 9:29:08 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: SaraJohnson

Well stated!


132 posted on 01/19/2012 9:30:41 AM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: All

Newt’s statement on Governor Rick Perry’s suspension of his campaign and endorsement:

“I am humbled and honored to have the support of my friend Rick Perry. His selflessness is yet another demonstration of his deep sense of citizenship and commitment to the cause of limited government, historic American values and greater freedom for every American.

Governor Perry will continue to be a leader for the cause of conservatism, especially for more American energy and for implementing the 10th Amendment across the country.

South Carolinians have a chance this Saturday to nominate a bold Reagan conservative who will offer a dramatic contrast with President Obama this fall in the general election.

I ask the supporters of Governor Perry to look at my record of balancing the budget, cutting spending, reforming welfare, and enacting pro-growth policies to create millions of new jobs and humbly ask for their vote.”


133 posted on 01/19/2012 9:31:17 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Texas Deb

Deb, I was already heartbroken, but your beautiful post has reduced me to a blubbering baby. I am sad,not just for Gov. Perry, but for our country. He would’ve been a wonderful president.


134 posted on 01/19/2012 9:31:29 AM PST by Inspectorette
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To: caww

My favorite: Lazarus was dead...

Hebrews says that Sarah was barren and Abraham as good as dead...

Gideon was told to cull down the small army he already had, so that it would be evident to all that it was God who had won the battle against the Midianites and not the strength of the people He used.

Moses was a murderer and Aaron made the golden calf for Israel to commit idolatry with, yet God used Aaron to hold up the hands of Moses so it would be clear that the Israelite army was victorious through God’s might alone.

I do question Gingrich’s humility, and it’s a worthy question to ask if he has repented of his sin. Is he messing around now? I do believe that confession is purifying, allows us to let go of the “sin that clings so closely”. I know Newt has said he regrets going on the AGW commercial with Nancy Pelosi. Sometimes somebody having the freedom to say, “I was a knucklehead and I won’t do it again” is critical, because we all make mistakes.

So it would be good to see if Newt publicly acknowledges his sin and has repented of it, because humility before God is important. God is the only One who can truly get us out of this mess, and I would prefer to have somebody in the White House who knows how to listen to Him.


135 posted on 01/19/2012 9:32:15 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: ohioWfan

He doesn’t need to ask our forgiveness. He needs to ask God for forgiveness...


136 posted on 01/19/2012 9:32:24 AM PST by sissyjane (I'm For NEWT!)
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To: KansasGirl

I have a new found respect for Perry. Not just for the endorsement of Newt, but I think he timed this after he learned of the ABC smear coming from left-field.


137 posted on 01/19/2012 9:32:57 AM PST by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: Inspectorette

I feel just as you, and I cried through his speech.

I feel it’s our country’s loss, and that breaks my heart as well. He would have been a great president!


138 posted on 01/19/2012 9:35:36 AM PST by Texas Deb
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To: All
Full video of Perry's speech. It begins at the 15-minute mark: The man we should have chosen, but Jehovah has his own plan.
139 posted on 01/19/2012 9:35:51 AM PST by firebrand
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To: KansasGirl

“Dear (Me),
Today I am suspending my campaign for President.

Anita and I have been blessed by the many supporters who have believed in our conservative vision for the country.

Although I will no longer be on the campaign trail, I will continue to champion conservative principles: a Washington that is humbler with a federal government that is smaller, real tax reform that can spur economic growth, and a renewed commitment to fiscal discipline so the future of this country is not mortgaged on a mountain of debt.

As we return to Austin and the Texas I love, I am proud to continue as governor of this great state and will work every day to make Texas a better place to do business and create jobs for all Texans.

We cannot thank you enough for your generous support which enabled our campaign to champion these conservative values.

God bless.

Rick Perry”

Thank you, Governor Perry.


140 posted on 01/19/2012 9:38:32 AM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry-not in 2012, I guess.)
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To: sissyjane
He doesn’t need to ask our forgiveness. He needs to ask God for forgiveness...

Obviously. Has he said that he has?

That's all I'm trying to find out here, but no one so far has answered my question.

I've seen a lot of people say it doesn't matter, others saying we need to forgive him, but I haven't seen the evidence that he has said that he's asked God's forgiveness for his egregious sins.

If anyone can provide that information, I would appreciate it.

141 posted on 01/19/2012 9:39:02 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: MestaMachine

I’ve wondered about that also.

Rick Perry has two more years left in his term as governor.

I seriously doubt if he would run again. He would probably win again easily, but he may think he’s done it long enough.

He wants to continue serving his country. I don’t think this is the time to run for the Kaye Bailey seat, several of his friends have already announced.

He could run against John next time. John is not nearly as strong as Perry.

I think there’s a possibility he might take a high government post if Gingrich offered one and, if he felt he could do some good. He would be a fabulous energy secretary.


142 posted on 01/19/2012 9:40:12 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: ohioWfan

Here you go: Meet the Press, May 15, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j8qdi_Uylw

I just Googled Gingrich and forgiveness. Came right up. Lots of other hits too, if you’d like to try it.


143 posted on 01/19/2012 9:41:30 AM PST by Eroteme
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To: ohioWfan
I would imagine that before being baptized in the Catholic Church, he would've had a great deal of counseling and advice from his Catholic pastor. This would have been in a private setting. His pastor would hopefully be able to judge whether or not his repentance is sincere.

In the Catholic sacrament of confession, one goes into a private confessional booth. There has never been a public breast-beating and garment-shredding ala the Jimmy Swaggart types.

144 posted on 01/19/2012 9:44:49 AM PST by Inspectorette
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To: ohioWfan
Former House speaker and potential presidential candidate Newt Gingrich has confessed, telling conservative Christian leader James Dobson that he was cheating on his wife at around the same time the House was impeaching President Bill Clinton over his White House affair with Monica Lewinsky. But Gingrich, who just published a book called "Rediscovering God in America," tapped a religious leader for his confession and expressed repentance. "There are things in my own life that I have turned to God and have gotten on my knees and prayed about and sought God's forgiveness," he told Dobson. http://articles.cnn.com/2007-03-09/politics/gingrich.schneider_1_georgia-republican-newt-gingrich-gingrich-confession?_s=PM:POLITICS
145 posted on 01/19/2012 9:45:34 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: KansasGirl

Love Governor Perry.

As far as Fox’s spin on this having little impact on Newt, they couldn’t be more wrong.

If Newt has 28% and gets Perry’s 4 or 6 percent, that will put him in range of Romney.

And Perry has influence beyond his numerical support. Lots of people had Perry as their second choice. Those people will be influenced by Perry’s endorsement.

Newt’s not quite the man Perry is (but who is?) but he will be a great candidate and it will be fun, fun, fun!


146 posted on 01/19/2012 9:46:06 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: ohioWfan

Here you go: Meet the Press, May 15, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j8qdi_Uylw

I just Googled Gingrich and forgiveness. Came right up. Lots of other hits too, if you’d like to try it.


147 posted on 01/19/2012 9:48:25 AM PST by Eroteme
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To: butterdezillion
So it would be good to see if Newt publicly acknowledges his sin and has repented of it, because humility before God is important.

There are many videos and articles, interviews where Newt's been asked about this. It really isn't hard to locate these...and read what is written or stated from Newt himself. Additionally many articles right here on FR. You can search with the FR search bar.

148 posted on 01/19/2012 9:49:38 AM PST by caww
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To: SaraJohnson

It went beyond the vetting process with Perry. The threads were full of insults and personal attacks. I’ve been off and on FR for a long time and have never seen anything so viscious as the Perry attacks.


149 posted on 01/19/2012 9:50:59 AM PST by Kenny
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To: ohioWfan

Gingich also sought and received from the Catholic Church annulments from his previous marriages so he could be married in the RCC. He has also signed a fidelity pledge.


150 posted on 01/19/2012 9:51:53 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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