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Santorum has Iowa, Gingrich has Palin and suddenly South Carolina is wide open
The London Telegraph ^ | January 19, 2012 | Dr. Tim Stanley

Posted on 01/19/2012 8:53:56 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

What a difference 24 hours makes to a Republican race. I arrived in Washington late last night, passed out, woke up, ran to a GOP breakfast, and only discovered over a midmorning sherry what happened all the time that I had been in the air or fast asleep. A tubby gentleman – head of an organisation titled something like Southerners Against Decadence – told me, “Perry is out, Santorum won Iowa and Gingrich is backed by Palin”. This news cycle is bound to shake the race up a little, depending on who benefits from it. Here are the highlights and how they might play out.

1. Rick Perry is out. We might ask why the Texan didn’t stay in until Saturday and wait to see how he’d do in South Carolina. He certainly has plenty of money and name recognition. But maybe his local polls confirmed what we’ve known for a long time – he’s sinking fast in the Palmetto State and is on course to place fifth. Quitting now spares him embarrassment and gives him one last bit of leverage: his endorsement. The word is that he’s leading towards Gingrich, so that’s Perry out and Gingrigh up.

2. Rick Santorum won Iowa after all, perhaps by 34 votes. The Iowa GOP is calling it a draw. Why is that when Mitt was ahead by just 8 votes it was a Romney victory, but now Santorum is ahead by 34, it’s a draw? Whatever: this retrospective win (and it is a win, Iowa) gives Santorum a big claim to be the only man to actually beat Romney. It also means that we have to revise the history books. I’m not alone for having written that Mitt was unique in Republican history for winning Iowa and New Hampshire in a row....

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gingrich; palin; perry; romney
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Dr Tim Stanley is a historian of the United States. He is working on a biography of Pat Buchanan. His personal website is www.timothystanley.co.uk and you can follow him on Twitter @timothy_stanley.
1 posted on 01/19/2012 8:54:03 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good news.

It’s on!


2 posted on 01/19/2012 8:58:02 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somehow, I can’t imagine a biography of Pat Buchanan being a best seller. Maybe get to 50,000 on Amazon.


3 posted on 01/19/2012 8:58:57 AM PST by Maceman (Obama: As American as nasei goreng)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As long as Gingrich is completely stand-up and honorable following his ex-wife's interview tonight he'll keep the lead. I want to hear nothing short of:

"She's right, I was wrong, I have repented and I have changed."

We need Newt, he is our best chance to stop Romney's cult from taking over a second third of the federal government.

4 posted on 01/19/2012 9:02:41 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is funny is now Romney is calling it a tie.. if he had won with ONE vote he would have declared victory..< /hypocrite>


5 posted on 01/19/2012 9:04:10 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: SENTINEL

Bingo.

God really MEANS it when he says our sins are forgiven — even the most heinous, most disgusting, sleazy, corrupt sins we can commit.

Even Newt’s. Even mine. Even Clinton’s if he so chooses to repent. It still stands.


6 posted on 01/19/2012 9:05:54 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: SENTINEL

100 Tea Party leaders set to endorse Newt today. http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/19/exclusive-100-tea-party-leaders-to-announce-support-for-newt/


7 posted on 01/19/2012 9:06:15 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Maceman
Isn't Pat the thinking man's Ron Paul? LOL I read his autobiography Right From The Beginning years ago and enjoyed it. He grew up Catholic in the District of Columbia.
8 posted on 01/19/2012 9:06:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: SENTINEL
AMEN! ^

THANK YOU, Texas (155 delegates) & Gov Perry!

GO NEWT!!!

Speaker Gingrich-led Republicans….the result: * Voting on each of the Contract with America items * Four consecutive balanced budgets * Over $400 billion of debt paid off * Major welfare reform accomplished * 11 million new jobs for America * Unemployment falling to under 4%.

9 posted on 01/19/2012 9:06:35 AM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Perry 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As another eminently sagacious FReeper posted a bit ago:

“I’m looking for a decent president. I don’t want to marry him”

I could care less about what Newt’s done in his private life, just as if I needed heart surgery and the best doc had a few issues in his past.

If screwing around with girls your daughters age in the Oval Office isn’t a disqualification to be President, then nothing else in the realm of personal behavior should be.


10 posted on 01/19/2012 9:08:55 AM PST by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That's where a record comes in. Not just the record of votes, which is often a meaningless toll of positions taken for political reasons on bills that were always going to pass or were never going to pass, but a record of actions taken that actually mattered.

A record of actions taken that actually mattered.  Newt is the man who fits that description to a "T".

He can identify what is most important to the country, develop a plan to overcome that challenge, articulate the the merits of overcoming the challenge and why the plan will work.

I hadn't been for Gingrich initially and spent plenty of energy excoriating him, these last several years, for any number of sins he committed against the Republican/Conservative ideals.  He seemed a turncoat of sorts, particularly when he babysat Pelosi on the couch.

On reflection, Newt is an attention whore seeking relevancy for his ideas and I guess I take him at his word that he made a few mistakes in his life and he has at least some regret for those decisions.  God knows I am no angel and so I have to reflect on the man's ability to get things done.

Newt gave us the Republican majority, the Contract with America and completed 2/3rds of his agenda while in office.

He now has a new plan for America and with what is likely to become a Congressional Super Majority and a Senate Majority, if not Super Majority, I believe he will absolutely accomplish his agenda.

Say goodbye to ObamaCare the single biggest scam and travesty foisted upon a free people who, by right, ought to have been given the opportunity to read the bill and debate it.  Instead, a win at all cost, cheating agenda was developed and it was signed with most people never laying eyes on at least page 2 of this utopian dreck.

Executive Orders Positions:

The following are all within the executive powers to simply order and with the exception of securing the border within one year, they are all easily accomplished with the stroke of a pen and no way to challenge them in the legislature.

Keystone may be challenged in the courts but I think the Executive can order the EPA to approve, under National Security Priorities and it is a National Security issue, as well, a jobs issue.

As President, Newt, could actually have a very busy 1st week or month just on these initiative alone.

1. Eliminate the thirty-nine White House "Czar" positions created during the current administration. The president does not have the authority to appoint bureaucrats to power who are not accountable to the Congress.

2. "Mexico City Policy" of Respect for Life. Reauthorize President Ronald Reagan’s policy – also known as the "Mexico City Policy"— to stop tax payer dollars from being used to fund or promote abortions in foreign countries.

3. Restore conscience clause protections for Healthcare Workers.No American working in a medical environment should be forced to perform any procedure that he or she finds morally or ethically objectionable based on religious teaching. This protection should include, but not be limited to abortion. Existing conscience clause protections need to be strengthened.

4. Respect Each Sovereign Nation’s Choice of its Capital. Each sovereign nation, under international law and custom, may designate its own Capital. Accordingly, the U.S. State Department should be instructed to respect the choice of each sovereign nation and place the American embassy in their Capital.  (Israel is the only country the United States discriminates against in this regard. The people of Israel have designated Jerusalem as their capital. Yet the United States retains its embassy in Tel Aviv.) 

5. End the Attorney General's Assault on the States. Instruct the Attorney General to withdraw all immigration-related lawsuits against states immediately, including those pending in Arizona and South Carolina. The Obama Administration refuses to enforce federal immigration laws, and instead sues states who are merely trying to enforce the laws that the federal government neglects. The Gingrich Administration will secure the border by Jan. 1, 2014 by any means necessary. 

6. The Keystone Pipeline

Unleash American Energy by Approving the Keystone XL Pipeline. Instruct the State Department to approve a Presidential Permit immediately for the Keystone XL pipeline, a project that will send 700,000 barrels of oil a day from Great Plains and Southwestern states to Gulf Coast refineries lower staggering energy prices, and create up to 120,000 American jobs.

LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS

 Now we get into the details of an inclusive agenda that brings the people(you and me), through their representatives, into process.  The TEA Party and conservatives are going to have a majority in both houses.

Let’s elect an Executive who will absolutely fulfill the promise of our ideals.

Executive Summary

  1. Repeal Obamacare and pass a replacement that saves lives and money by empowering patients and doctors, not bureaucrats and politicians.
  2. Return to robust job creation with a bold set of tax cuts and regulatory reforms that will free American entrepreneurs to invest and hire, as well as by reforming the Federal Reserve and creating a training requirement for extended federal unemployment benefits to encourage work and improve the quality of our workforce.
  3. Unleash America’s full energy production potential in oil, natural gas, coal, biofuels, wind, nuclear oil shale and more, creating jobs,  stimulating a sustainable manufacturing boom, lowering gasoline and other energy prices, increasing government revenues, and bolstering national security.
  4. Save Medicare and Social Security by giving Americans more choices and tools to live longer, healthier lives with greater financial independence.
  5. Balance the federal budget by freeing job-creators to grow the economy, reforming entitlements, and implementing waste cutting and productivity improvement systems such as Lean Six Sigma to eliminate waste and fraud. Pass a balanced budget amendment to keep it balanced.
  6. Control the border by January 1, 2014 and establish English as the official language of government; reform the legal visa system, and make it much easier to deport criminals and gang members while making it easier for law abiding visitors to come to the US.
  7. Revitalize our national security system to meet 21st century threats by restructuring and adequately funding our security agencies to function within a grand strategy for victory over those who seek to kill us or limit American power.
  8. Maximize the speed and impact of medical breakthroughs by removing unnecessary obstacles that block new treatments from reaching patients and emphasizing research spending towards urgent national priorities, like brain science with its impact on Alzheimer’s, autism, Parkinson's, mental health and other conditions knowledge of the brain will help solve. 
  9. Restore the proper role of the judicial branch by using the clearly delineated powers available to the president and Congress to correct, limit, or replace judges who violate the Constitution.
  10. Enforce the Tenth Amendment by starting an orderly transfer of power and responsibility from the federal government back “to the states, respectively, or to the people,” as the Constitution requires. Over the next year, state and local officials and citizens will be asked to identify the areas which can be transferred back home.    

Newt gave us the three most important victories of the 90’s Welfare Reform, Balanced Budget and Reduced Taxes.  I hope I don’t need to describe the benefits of those victories.  They ought to be obvious to everyone by now.

Lastly, there have been some reports that Newt shouldn’t get all the credit.  Really?  Then perhaps we marginalize the accomplishments of Washington, Roosevelt, Kennedy and ….wait for it… Reagan.

Do we really want to go down the road with that kind of adolescent sophistry and parsing of what happened?

Newt is the guy who thought of these big things, proposed them and shepherded their implementation?

Newt has once again identified what is important to us now, at this time and described how we can get there with our representative majorities. He has done it before and I declare Newt Gingrich was then and is Now a leader.

We should elect Newt Gingrich to the Presidency of the United States

11 posted on 01/19/2012 9:09:00 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SENTINEL

Well Perry just endorsed Newt so a lot of his votes will probably peel off to Newt. Hopefully it will make up for any votes that Newt loses because of this stupid interview tongight. I just watched the 30 second trailer and basically Marianne has nothing new to say from the last two times she has been interviewed. This is all old news.


12 posted on 01/19/2012 9:10:03 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: LibsRJerks

He has the advantage of knowing when someone means what they say. You and I need to judge liars by their actions.


13 posted on 01/19/2012 9:11:30 AM PST by conejo99
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” Whatever: this retrospective win (and it is a win, Iowa) gives Santorum a big claim to be the only man to actually beat Romney. It also means that we have to revise the history books. I’m not alone for having written that Mitt was unique in Republican history for winning Iowa and New Hampshire in a row....”

I swear the biggest reason I want Newt to win SC so these people can stop dry humping a 34 vote win in Iowa as being bigger than Jesus. They are almost as bad as the Paul-bots.


14 posted on 01/19/2012 9:13:24 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Santorum did not help himself with all his whining about Newt suggesting he drop out

My ideal ticket (as of today) would be Romney Paul with them openly discussing Palin and Perry in his cabinet.

I like Santorum, but he pouts like a child some times.


15 posted on 01/19/2012 9:14:09 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Perry + Palin = Good enough for me! Go Newt! Devour Obama!


16 posted on 01/19/2012 9:17:18 AM PST by Rapscallion (Beware that we do not allow a Gestapo to form and call it Homeland Security.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I am glad this “bombshell” interveiw is on ABC.

Both of ABC’s viewers are probably not going to vote for Newt anyway.


17 posted on 01/19/2012 9:21:45 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: SENTINEL
What if she is a liar? My ex-wife sure wouldn't tell you good things about me, but I expect 80% of what she'd say would be lies, misrepresentations, hyperbole and spin. Should I just say she's correct and ask for forgiveness?
18 posted on 01/19/2012 9:23:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Mr. K

Mr. K wrote:
“My ideal ticket (as of today) would be Romney Paul”

You’re kidding ... right?


19 posted on 01/19/2012 9:30:52 AM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: SENTINEL

He already responded. He said that he had made all his comments and apologies, and he’s not commenting. He says those are family things and they’ve been handled.

He says his daughters might comment but he didn’t say that definitely would happen.


20 posted on 01/19/2012 9:31:01 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: VanDeKoik

I’m gravitating to Newt, but you have to give Santorum credit for beating Milt in Iowa by spending $22,000 versus many millions.


21 posted on 01/19/2012 9:33:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have an ex-wife too.

What I expect to hear form Gingrich if she is a lying would be:

"Without going into detail not everything she said is true, but most of it is, I am guilty, I have repented, and I have changed."

22 posted on 01/19/2012 9:34:50 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: Vendome

Add to your legislative proposals the elimination of several federal gun laws - the 1934 NFA, the 1968 GCA, the Brady Law, the Lautenberg Amendment and Title 18, Section 922(o), as well as passing a national reciprocity law for concealed carry - and you’ll have a near perfect agenda. Defunding most of the EPA, most of Homeland Security and all of the BATFE would be cream on the cake.


23 posted on 01/19/2012 9:42:04 AM PST by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: Belteshazzar

I think John Kasich would be a great choise for the VP slot. The Governor of an important swing state, Ohio, and someone that worked on balancing the budget with Newt in Congress.


24 posted on 01/19/2012 9:46:22 AM PST by Bizhvywt
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I watched that trailer, too. That ABC program won’t show in central time until 10:35, 11:35 eastern time, and it’s a thirty minute show. I think people will be watching the debate at that time and not watching ABC.


25 posted on 01/19/2012 9:46:54 AM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Hussein in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: Mr. K
My ideal ticket (as of today) would be Romney Paul

I don't see how a Freeper of your vintage can possibly choose such a horrible combination for Prez and VP.

Did you simply forget your sarc tag?

26 posted on 01/19/2012 9:47:32 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Belteshazzar

I think John Kasich would be a great choise for the VP slot. The Governor of an important swing state, Ohio, and someone that worked on balancing the budget with Newt in Congress.

This would also lay the groundwork for a conservative succesor to 8 years of Newt. We could have 16 years of conservative leadership to undo all the damage the O did in the last 4 years.


27 posted on 01/19/2012 9:51:58 AM PST by Bizhvywt
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To: Belteshazzar

I think John Kasich would be a great choise for the VP slot. The Governor of an important swing state, Ohio, and someone that worked on balancing the budget with Newt in Congress.

This would also lay the groundwork for a conservative succesor to 8 years of Newt. We could have 16 years of conservative leadership to undo all the damage the O did in the last 4 years.


28 posted on 01/19/2012 9:52:23 AM PST by Bizhvywt
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To: Bizhvywt

I like the idea of Allen West as VP. He’s a potent voice but also doesn’t suck the air out of the room when he speaks. Could make a very powerful team.


29 posted on 01/19/2012 10:04:49 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People in this country have had enough experience with divorce that I expect they know what to expect from an ex-wife. Newt should simply say “Well, she is my ex-wife. What do you expect?” and leave it at that; or maybe add “I forgive her”


30 posted on 01/19/2012 10:11:43 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't believe the $22,000 part but it is a fact that Santorum accomplished a great deal on very little money.

This was given as a reason why Iowa will retain its first-in-nation status as Iowa gives even those with little money the chance to prove the viability as a candidate.

31 posted on 01/19/2012 10:14:18 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: SENTINEL

How do you make the assumption that “most” of what the woman says is true? Has that been your experience in life?


32 posted on 01/19/2012 10:32:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dude we're on the same side here. It has been open admitted knowledge that Newt cheated on her for years before divorcing her.

Newt has said he repented and changed and needs to meet this honestly and head on for those of us that are holding our nose to support him, to stay with him.

BTW...2nd Marine Division ? I was 1st, Desert Storm.

33 posted on 01/19/2012 10:49:42 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Santorum/Gingrich vs

Gingrich/Santorum


34 posted on 01/19/2012 10:52:37 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: SENTINEL

Thank you for your service. No, a lot of people think that. 2nd United States Infantry Division. My father was a career Marine (commo chief) so I decided to join a different service and see some new scenery. BTW, the 2ID was commanded by several Marine officers during WWI (during which they had a Marine brigade aboard), the only Army division with that distinction. Google it.


35 posted on 01/19/2012 11:03:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


36 posted on 01/19/2012 11:05:54 AM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Newt)
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To: DannyTN

I predict Rick Santorum will drop out soon. He graduated from law school, so I assume he can read a poll, right?


37 posted on 01/19/2012 11:07:35 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
HOOAH Brother..


38 posted on 01/19/2012 11:20:43 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why would Santorum drop out? He was ahead of Newt in the first two contests.

While I like Santorum more than Newt, I still like Newt, but I fear the lib media will “Cain” him. If they destoryed Herman Cain WITHOUT evidence, what are they going to do with Newt?

Personally I think Newt has changed, and (unlike some people) would not be supporting him at all, if I didn’t think he is a moral person now.


39 posted on 01/19/2012 11:50:36 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Actually Santorum won Iowa by double the '34' votes. They aren't counting the 'missing' 8 precincts, but in the initial results there (good enough to anoint Mitt's 'win') Rick had an additional 35 vote margin so he won 69.

Meanwhile Obama has specialized in taking out opponents via their old divorce records and by preaching class warfare. To run against Santorum he'd have to learn new tricks.

40 posted on 01/19/2012 11:51:26 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He can probably read a poll, but does he believe the polls?

What poll said Santorum would win Iowa?


41 posted on 01/19/2012 1:35:18 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Marcella

“I think people will be watching the debate at that time and not watching ABC.”

Me too. The debate is the big deal tonight.


42 posted on 01/19/2012 2:36:44 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Mr. K

what the heck? is someone hacking my account?

My ideal ticket would be Gingrich/Santorum- I meant to say

(I must have zoned out while I was typing that because it is one hell of a typo!)


43 posted on 01/19/2012 4:34:58 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Mr. K

Did you start the drinking game early? Just kidding, we’ve all shared in the occasional typo. :)


44 posted on 01/19/2012 5:06:17 PM PST by callisto (Who is John Galt?)
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To: LibsRJerks
Even Newt’s. Even mine. Even Clinton’s if he so chooses to repent. It still stands.

Especially MINE!

45 posted on 01/19/2012 7:43:53 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SENTINEL

Thank you both!

I was in and out of the air force before ‘Nam got really hot.

I landed in Siagon when the airport was a sleepy little jungle strip and 18 months later I touched down there on the way home and it was being turned into FWD!!


46 posted on 01/19/2012 7:49:49 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Mr. K

It’s yer darned tagline line.

CHANGE it!!!


47 posted on 01/19/2012 7:52:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: VanDeKoik
It also means that we have to revise the history books. I’m not alone for having written that Mitt was unique in Republican history for winning Iowa and New Hampshire in a row....”

That was always an example of press bogosity -- Ford won IA and NH in 76

48 posted on 01/19/2012 7:58:17 PM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: Windflier

I swear TO GOD I meant to type Gingrich/Santorum (for 16 striaght years of conservatism)

I must have really zoned out


49 posted on 01/20/2012 9:14:35 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Mr. K
I swear TO GOD I meant to type Gingrich/Santorum (for 16 striaght years of conservatism) I must have really zoned out

Well, if we conservatives can forgive Newt, we can certainly forgive you for momentarily zoning out ;-)

50 posted on 01/20/2012 9:42:28 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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