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Indians pitcher Carmona arrested in identity case (Using false identity)
news-herald.com ^ | January 20, 2012 | Jim Ingraham

Posted on 01/20/2012 2:18:53 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave

Indians pitcher Fausto Carmona has been arrested in his native Dominican Republic, according to multiple reports. Carmona is accused of using a false identity.

According to ESPNDeportes.com, Carmona’s real name is Roberto Hernandez Heredia. He was arrested Thursday after leaving the U.S. Consulate in the Dominican Republic, where he went to get a visa in order to attend spring training in Arizona next month.

“We were recently made aware of the situation that occurred today in the Dominican Republic and are currently in the process of gathering information,” Indians general manager Chris Antonetti said in a statement released by the club. “We are not prepared to make any additional comment at this time.”

In addition, other reports say Carmona’s real age is 31, not 28, which is what he had been listed at in the Indians’ media guide.

The Indians originally signed Carmona as a free agent on Dec. 28, 2000. According to the Indians’ media guide, he was born on Dec. 7, 1983, in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.

Carmona has had an up-and-down career with the Indians, winning 19 games and finishing fourth in the Cy Young Award voting in 2007. In the last three years, he has lost 15, 14 and 12 games, respectively.

Carmona was the Indians’ opening-day starter last year but had another disappointing season, going 7-15 with a 5.25 ERA in 32 starts.

In March of 2008, Carmona signed a four-year, $15 million contract with the Indians. That contract included club options for $7 million in 2012, $9 million in 2013 and $12 million in 2014.

Following last year’s World Series, the Indians exercised the 2012 club option on the contract. Whether Carmona will be able to report on time to the Indians’ spring training camp in Goodyear, Ariz. for the start of spring training could be problematical, given Thursday’s arrest.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: baseball; falseidentity

1 posted on 01/20/2012 2:19:00 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Honest Injun!


2 posted on 01/20/2012 2:20:19 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; BlindedByTruth; ...

Ohio Ping!

To be added to the Ohio Ping List, please freepmail (works best),
both LasVegasDave and Flutters.

3 posted on 01/20/2012 2:21:29 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Can’t sleep huh?


4 posted on 01/20/2012 2:27:41 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Got it!!!!!!


5 posted on 01/20/2012 2:33:24 AM PST by Enten (How's that hopey changey thing been working out for you?)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Who’s on first?


6 posted on 01/20/2012 2:48:11 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Enten

Got what?


7 posted on 01/20/2012 2:51:57 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: dennisw

Hu’s on first...


8 posted on 01/20/2012 2:52:46 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
probably still young enough to play in the Little League World Series..
9 posted on 01/20/2012 3:25:20 AM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Carmona’s real name is Roberto Hernandez Heredia

False ID?
Who knew?...he's Mescan.

10 posted on 01/20/2012 3:38:26 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Why? One doesn’t use a false identity for no reason. Probably got a record, or is wanted.


11 posted on 01/20/2012 3:40:16 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Maybe he’s a Manchurian Candidate-kinda player...sent from North Korea into the Caribbean...sneaking into the US to spy on major league baseball? Heck, he might even be from Turkmenistan.


12 posted on 01/20/2012 3:56:56 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Illegal alien working in America making millions of dollars?


13 posted on 01/20/2012 4:01:11 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

This is, or was, pretty widespread down in the DR. Players would get falsified credentials to make them appear years younger because a kid with a certain skill-set at 15 or 16 is a lot more attractive to US scouts than a young man at 19 or 20.

Who knows? Maybe one day we’ll get our politicians from down there?


14 posted on 01/20/2012 4:11:32 AM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

It sounds like he has been playing his whole career under the false identity.

Perhaps he faked being 17 to keep playing in the teenage Dominican leagues, so he would be scouted.

And as he had amazing maturity, power, and control for a 17 year old he got the scouting attention he wanted.


15 posted on 01/20/2012 4:18:51 AM PST by The Free Engineer
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Probably got a record, or is wanted.
He can always switch to football and play in the National Felons League.
16 posted on 01/20/2012 6:13:16 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Hey, as a lifetime Cleveland Indians fan, it's no big deal. The Tribe can just call up their two top pitching prospects, Alex White or Drew Pomerantz from the minors to replace him.

Oops, I forgot. The Indians traded them both last year for another south-of-the-border headcase, Ubaldo Jimenez. Never mind.

17 posted on 01/20/2012 9:26:09 AM PST by IndyTiger
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To: IndyTiger

I lost interest in the Indians when they traded Rocky!


18 posted on 01/20/2012 9:46:44 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: IndyTiger

Triv might be interesting today!


19 posted on 01/20/2012 9:48:27 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Vendome

I too couldn’t sleep....reading baseball posts at 3AM....!!!


20 posted on 01/20/2012 9:49:09 AM PST by Enten (How's that hopey changey thing been working out for you?)
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To: Vendome

“”Hu’s on first.”

Hu’s asleep on my shoulders! I have two girl catz, one named Hu, the other named Mao, “Hu” means tiger. “Mao” means the animal that makes the “mao”(meow) sound. Chinese ladyfriend.


21 posted on 01/20/2012 9:55:28 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Vendome

Hu’s on First

By James Sherman
(We take you now to the Oval Office.)

George: Condi! Nice to see you. What’s happening?

Condi: Sir, I have the report here about the new leader of China.

George: Great. Lay it on me.

Condi: Hu is the new leader of China.

George: That’s what I want to know.

Condi: That’s what I’m telling you.

George: That’s what I’m asking you. Who is the new leader of China?

Condi: Yes.

George: I mean the fellow’s name.

Condi: Hu.

George: The guy in China.

Condi: Hu.

George: The new leader of China.

Condi: Hu.

George: The Chinaman!

Condi: Hu is leading China.

George: Now whaddya’ asking me for?

Condi: I’m telling you Hu is leading China.

George: Well, I’m asking you. Who is leading China?

Condi: That’s the man’s name.

George: That’s who’s name?

Condi: Yes.

George: Will you or will you not tell me the name of the new leader of
China?

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Yassir? Yassir Arafat is in China? I thought he was in the
Middle East.

Condi: That’s correct.

George: Then who is in China?

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Yassir is in China?

Condi: No, sir.

George: Then who is?

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Yassir?

Condi: No, sir.

George: Look, Condi. I need to know the name of the new leader of China. Get me the Secretary General of the U.N. on the phone.

Condi: Kofi?

George: No, thanks.

Condi: You want Kofi?

George: No.

Condi: You don’t want Kofi.

George: No. But now that you mention it, I could use a glass of milk. And then get me the U.N.

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Not Yassir! The guy at the U.N.

Condi: Kofi?

George: Milk! Will you please make the call?

Condi: And call who?

George: Who is the guy at the U.N?

Condi: Hu is the guy in China.

George: Will you stay out of China?!

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: And stay out of the Middle East! Just get me the guy at the U.N.

Condi: Kofi.

George: All right! With cream and two sugars. Now get on the phone.

(Condi picks up the phone.)

Condi: Rice, here.

George: Rice? Good idea. And a couple of egg rolls, too. Maybe we
should send some to the guy in China. And the Middle East. Can you
get Chinese food in the Middle East?


22 posted on 01/20/2012 9:58:18 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Been following the Tribe since the late ‘60s, but have never been so cynical as I have been the past two seasons. Trading away Cy Young winners in consecutive seasons and not getting a single bonafide major league player in return (just a bunch of “prospects”) really upset me.

Is it just me, or is FR really slow lately?

23 posted on 01/20/2012 9:59:37 AM PST by IndyTiger
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Why? One doesn’t use a false identity for no reason. Probably got a record, or is wanted.

No. He did it to lower his age. Prospects and players are evaluated on age. The club charts players and how they are supposed to move through the system. A 22 year old in rookie ball is viewed much differently than a 19 year old in rookie ball.

So his rookie year was 2006, when he was supposedly 22, but was actually 25. He went 1-10, but he was thought to have really good stuff, so the Indians kept working with him and brought him back for the next year. They did that because they thought he was 22. If a pitcher is 25 and goes 1-10, he gets sent down, or, more likely, released.

24 posted on 01/20/2012 10:03:58 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: IndyTiger
Trading away Cy Young winners in consecutive seasons and not getting a single bonafide major league player in return (just a bunch of “prospects”) really upset me.

They both had expiring contracts. You think that a team is going to give up the farm--literally--to get a pitcher with an expiring contract?

The Jimenez deal with a head scratcher. CC and Lee made sense.

25 posted on 01/20/2012 10:11:25 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius
The Jimenez deal with a head scratcher

I meant that it WAS a head scratcher. I didn't understand that one at all. And the Indians should have known something was going on when Colorado was trying to deal a "good" pitcher who was controllable and not even arbitration eligible for 2 more seasons. Red flags all over the place.

26 posted on 01/20/2012 10:16:07 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

Lee still had 1 1/2 years left on his deal. I understood why both he and CC were traded, but not getting a single quality player in return is mind-boggling. Poor scouting by the Indians.


27 posted on 01/20/2012 11:33:59 AM PST by IndyTiger
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